I really don’t see why anyone would say mike tyson would destroy wilder. They’ve never fought. They’re from different eras. Imo wilder sleeps Tyson. Look at what Lewis and Holyfield did to him. The dude was a bit of a hype job himself. Just talked a lot of crazy **** and followed up for the most part. But you can’t tell me a prime Tyson and a prime wilder fight would be mouth watering. The press conferences. The actual battle would be a lot to look forward to. But they won’t ever fight so why waste your breath... all deontay was doing was sticking up for his self and rightfully so. Let’s see wilder in there with aj. No head movement. Slowfeet. Very predictable simple boxing movements. Moves back in a straight line. I see wilder coming out on top and reining awhile till he ages out and can’t rely on his physical attributes. **** fury he is a thing of the past. All he is is a mouth.
He’s is not get real. Wilder made him look World class and I actually thought after the fight “ this Washington can fight” Then Miller pummelled him and I realised he is garbage.
How many fights has Joe Joyce had? Of course Washington is the perfect opponent for a novice just starting his Pro career
So big baby pummeled him for all 12 huh? The fight was way more competitive than the wilder fight bro be real...
Joshua dropped ruiz and tried to finish him but got caught in the process, that doesn't say much cus it happens.. Joshua only got caught when he started exchanging on the inside with ruiz
Correction... Joshua got caught anytime he tried to engage with Ruiz. Ruiz countered like god damn Canelo in there. Aj is trash and we’ve all seen it now. Idk what’s up with brits and their chins but it seems to be a pattern...
I wouldn’t be soo quick to sing ‘ding dong the witch is dead’, I’m no fan of Hearn, but this could still all turn around and actually pay off for him. The rematch is gonna do huge numbers in Mexico and sign up a heap of Latino’s on DAZN. IF, AJ turns up in his back yard with some new found inspiration he could snatch those belts back and he would have gained a lot of ‘eye’s on’ in the process.
There is one other scenario of course. The only way I see the Ruiz rematch not happening is if Haymon hangs out Wilder for sacrifice for a mega money deal. I know everyone on here thinks the guys is unbeatable, but...just saying. Haymons a stats man, the negotiations are gonna be very interesting, he’d trade 3 belts for 1 every day of the week with a Mexican audience at stake.
Let’s not forget AJ did actually sit Ruiz down for the first time in his career, this is the HW’s he could do it again. That won’t escape Haymon either.
All I am saying is the guys isn’t 45, he might just completely freshen up his team and get his focus and win this back and all the smug comments gonna look pretty silly. I’m holding back for the rematch or the Haymon hand of god to move before I call it.
A bad chin can’t be fixed or taught to be better... Joshua has been exposed to have a weak chin. None of those lunches even landed very flush. He simply has no legs to compete and wilder would put him out cold with the way he followed Andy around the ribs and backed up in a straight line he’s had all the same flaws but none of the competition to expose it. Fury would stop aj... let’s be real. The hype train has come to a screaming vault.
Crawfish will keep swimming downhill from the Spence fight. He knows it’ll take more than boxing skills & he also knows Spence is a beast at 147. Arums known for ducking the best.
Delusional fanboy... Spence gets taken to school by Crawford and that is why the fight isn’t being made. Spence gonna cash out the welterweight division with a loss in that fight. Blame it on being weight drained cause Crawford will make him look slow outworked and flat footed. Then Spence will move up to 154 and start his campaign there. Cmon man we all see this **** coming.
Behave yourself. Wilder doesn't make any serious money outside of Fury, Whyte and Joshua. His ticket selling is proof of this. It isn't all of a sudden going to shoot up at this point in his career.
Stoppppp sellin tickets means **** all when you are Ppv... stop with your stadium bull**** just STOPPPPP
Wilder will never get 50-50 split against AJ. AJ is the biggest name in division, if Wilder wants the fight, he should thate what is offered. GGG didn`t get 50 -50 split against canelo as well.
Look at the POV numbers... just cause he sells stadiums out doesn’t mean he does the best numbers :/ lol you’re talking tens of thousands compared to millions. What was the numbers for his povetkin fight? I bet not so good...
yes lets see how december 1st go's ..if it bombs at the ppv market and the arena is till not sold out and tickets are easy to buy then stop this stupid talk abiut a 50/50 clash and if it creates a real buzz and sells big on ppv and packs out the arena then he has a case for 50/50 untill then talking waffle.
Ohh 14k ...just so you know joshua last 4 fights have been 83k 70k 70k and 90k so talking about tickets sold.
Its embarassing on your part
But the real question is what kinda numbers has aj done compared to wilder. I think he did about 30,000 more on the buys vs Parker than wilder did vs Ortiz... I do believe people really aren’t educating themselves and are just listening to what wilder or what Eddie hearns (cause aj ain’t allowed to talk for himself) says. Y’all need to see what each side is saying and educate ya self cause it’s making a lotta people look stupid
If it’s about legacy why isn’t Wilder actually trying to make the fight and grab 4 belts for HIS OWN LEGACY?
Wilder has made no attempt to make the fight, and struts around saying stuff like “I’ll never fight Joshua” but you want us to believe AJ is the one not interested.
If you can’t see who wants it you are not very perceptive.
As for Fury, the reason why they’re not talking him for April is because if he wins he’ll be obligated to rematch Wilder, so he is unavailable April.
BTW, Whyte is a very good fighter, he’d be the best name on Wilder’s record if W would actually fight him, but he ducked.
Bravo brother. Spoken like a real Eddie hearns fanboy 👏🏻👏🏻🤫😂
Hey nuthugger, suck your master Wildher balls dry :) fangirls like you do nothing but suck their daddy Haymon and Wildher day and night, your daddy Wildher appreciate you little one :lol1:
I’m not really a fan. But I’m a fan of boxing and aj has been ducking wilder so hard that the real nut huggers like yourself are so mad that aj has left a bad taste in the rest of the worlds mouths that y’all are wildin like wilder lol knock it off and educate yourself ya damn brits are to proud for your own good. Again. Keep eating what daddy hearns feeds you bud. You’ll be full of **** soon ;)
This fight will happen in the next year, max. Oh, and only when Wilder starts talking sense as to how much money he wants. He's pricing himself out of the fight at the time being, but no one wants to make comment on that.
Just stopppppp educate yourself and then come back and comment. Y’all brits are looking real dumb right now following Eddie Hearn the snake blindly. Keep eating what he feeds you and you’ll be full of **** soon.
Alabama fraud is running out of time, Wildher must fight Joshua now, Wildher is a coward but he can't run for ever.
Keep eating what daddy hearns feeds you baby boy. I feel bad for y’all brits. Gonna take a loss from wilder twice. The gypsy king is going to sleep and then that big slow footed block of a human Anthony Johnson is going to sleep. Not in April though cause that’s for whyte. But you brits will keep eating the spoiled meat hearns feeds you. Sad. Sad what our sport has to go through when such a large group of fans gets brainwashed. Just sad. :( hope you the best in your recovery after you realize you’ve been robbed by a hype job. 🙏
This is just hbo propaganda. I’m boycotting hbo due to their fixed fights and I’m boycotting gbp as well due to their part in it. It’s gone to far. We as fight fans will lose the sport as a whole to this if we don’t do something about it and cut the infection out. Andre ward was a great fighter. Got signed to hbo for his personality so he can take Roy Jones place at commentary. There is an agenda. After the **** show biased commentary from hbo (know that gggs contract with hbo is up and Canelo is starting his) I can’t even watch anymore because it’s like they forget they’re reading a script and make it so obvious. Anytime max kellerman speaks I already know who’s gonna win the fight before it starts and that’s not because of his knowledge. It’s because he is not good at translating his script. Now this isn’t the wwe. This is real fighting. I’m done with hbo and with gbp and I hope some people wise up and follow that or make the conscious effort to clean our sport of frauds. Enough of the blatant cheating. The set up scores. The biased commentating. Enough. Anyone wanna bet there’s a 3rd fight between them? Yea we all knew that before the first one and how convenient the scores reflect that and keep the customer wanting more as in (ggg fans thinking he won so they want another rematch) any other score they wouldn’t be getting a rematch. I can’t stand it. And neither should you.
1st off - Kazakhstan is NOT part of the Russian Federation. They've been independent of the Soviet Union since '91. They only share foreign relations and are allies.
Thank you for clearing that up for him!
Defense that is running is not really defense, it is failure to engage and should lose rounds for a fighter who employs it. Effective and proper defense is the ability to engage but block, slip punches while landing your own punches. If Canelo can employ this type of defense he will win the fight but if his defense is running he won't deserve to win.
Agreed. Canelos ebb and flow wasn’t there. He was In There being someone he’s not out of survival.
Dangerous? I think Ortiz is a better boxer but if you are talking one punch KO power, I think a fresh Joshua is more dangerous. I do not think Wilder would survive what Ruiz survived in the 3rd. IF Wilder got up from the canvas after the hook, I think the right hand that landed after Ruiz got off the canvas would have finished him. BUT as you say Wilder is faster on his feet, taking one to give one is not likely something Wilder would or should do.
I agree yes you’re right with Andy using his certain style to beat aj. I think wilder has a better jab than aj honestly. And he would land that right pretty much whenever he pleases. But again I agree wilder wouldn’t have the same gameplan as Ruiz nor would fury.
What don't people realize? GGG can not pull out of this fight without having HUGE legal implications. Unless NSAC calls off the fight and/or says that Canelo was indeed guilty (after they composed a thorough investigation) - Gennady can't just pull out and not pay the price.
He's simply saying he hopes NSAC will conduct a very comprehensive investigation (as thorough as the one FIFA did when exonerating those 5 soccer players - where they gathered intel about what restaurants, what time they ate, what training camp, what butcher that training camp uses, and what farm that butcher uses, etc).
If they conduct that investigation, and Canelo cooperates and gives up the above details, and they find out Canelo is innocent, then it's dropped. If canelo chooses not to, then hair follicle tests will be in order. If Canelo chooses not to do that then 1. he's as guilty as can be and 2. NSAC failed to do it's job by conducting a full investigation in a timely manner and/or following it's own bylaws when pertaining to punishment.
Finally! Someone with a brain to tell these boys what the hell is good.
exactly !!
Sanchez should just STFU
whatever happened, will not benefit Canelo
he will not have an unfair advantage, so.....
Abel..... can your boy beat the fat red kid, or not ?
first, pleading with Canelo to stand in front of Golovkin..... now, wanting to burn his/Gennady's payday without stepping in the ring
Abel does not sound very confident to me
Sooo you’d get in the ring with someone who is obviously on peds? This is a dangerous game without the peds. These guys hands are weapons. So now you add extra firepower. Now it’s extra dangerous. unnecessarily dangerous. It’s not a matter of confidence it’s a matter of protection and integrity. Which I’m sure you’re a fan of clenelo so I assume you lack both. Smh at the dummygraphic on this topic. “It won’t help him” lol stfu have you taken clenbuterol cause I assure you it helps A LOT also helps A lot to mask any steroids he could be on. But yeaaaa it ain’t gonna help him at all lol
LOL. These giddy Deontay Ruiz fans cant control their fanboyism. But once again the PBC fangimps bring out their favourite word WOULD. I never heard Ruiz calling Wlad out when he was dominant. Ruiz was about as quiet as Wilder was until Wlad retired and that was silence.
Dude. Wilder called out vlad for years. Even Emanuel stuart saw the potential in wilder. And Ruiz was most likely an amateur when vlad was prime lol... I'm guessing you're an aj fan spewing nonsense like that. Now we all know the truth about aj. The only tests out there for the top guys at heavy (wilder and fury) are eachother atm. Since even if aj wins this rematch in thrilling fashion the real boxing fans understand what would happen against a wilder. Fury stops aj in my opinion as well. We all know vlad was a hype job that didn't have a dance partner to show it till he was beaten by fury and then the old man vlad had aj going life and death. Vlad wasn't as good as any other elite heavy. His generation also was the weakest generation of heavyweight boxing probably in the history of the sport... so c'mon man you really think its the pbc fanboys fault for feeling the way they do? Cause they got a point.
All these guys getting offended about aj not having the same power is amusing to say the least. Like do they even watch the fights or just watch ajs glutes? Wilder OBVIOUSLY and that’s from a blind mans perspective. Hits leagues harder than aj. Aj ends all of his fights by accumulation. Wilder has guys seizing on the floor and drooling laying on their face on the canvas. Something I myself have never seen aj do. So that’s obvious. Aj backs up in a straight line. Has **** stamina. Very robotic but these brits love Eddie hearns and his opinions it seems. They follow his word like the boxers almanac. Very amusing. Can’t wait for wilder to end that gravy train. Hearns is bad for boxing. He’s just as bad as Oscar and golden boy with Canelo. I jut hope he grows the balls to allow his fighter and yes allows. Because hearns is the owner of ajs balls to fight wilder and cash out. I don’t think he will allow him to fight wilder until he has another fighter in his stable that will replace ajs income.
Then you would be stuck making 1.5 average paydays ......
If money is the issue you then realise that payng Joshua 50 Million does not get Wilder 12.5 right ? It gets him less .
On top of that you cant seriously tell me if you made what Wilder does you dont take the 12.5 ,win and get at least 20 Million in a rematch which would equal over 30 Million from your 1.4 Million in two fights .
Sorry but if Wilder THOUGHT he could win he would have signed and at least negotiated it to stand a gain of making about THIRTY ONE Million more than he usually does .
Its not even debatable , the guy cant even barley crack TWO million .
The only guy whos laughing IS Joshua .
I don’t get why the money aspect of fights are so talked about amongst the fans. Why don’t you talk about Joshua’s boxing ability or wilders power instead of swinging from Joshua’s payday jockstrap. It’s sad that this is where boxing fans have reverted to after the mayweather era. Truly sad.
Whyte, Chisora, Povetkin, Takam, Wlad, Breazeale, Miller, Parker.
What do these all have in common? They have the nuts to take their shot at AJ.
Fury and Wilder don't want any of it. AJ cannot force them into the ring.
Daddy hearns is proud of you, son.
Can’t waot for the robot to get exposed. Fury will stop him. He’s straight up and down no special effects. Wilder knocks him out fairly easy too. You shouldn’t listen to hearns to much. ****s bad for your brain.
Are you re tarded. I just gave you link to WADA's definition of all their banned substances. It's not on the list of steroids because it isn't one dummy. Victor Conte who is an expert said it's not a steroid. It's a banned substance but that doesn't equal steroids and no it's not a debate what it's classified as. It's actually cut and dry. You were wrong stop trying to move the goal post. HGH is also different then Steroid and yes it's on the PDF too just not listed under Steroid banned substances. Literally nothing you have said is true. lol
https://healthgains.com/blog/growth-hormone/is-hgh-a-steroid/
HGH is not a steroid.
Is HGH a Steroid? HGH, or human growth hormone is often mistakenly thought to be a steroid. This is largely due to the fact that growth hormone is tested for, and banned by, most major sports. Therefore, it often gets erroneously lumped together with other so-called “performance enhancing drugs,” such as “anabolic steroids.”
However, HGH and steroids are two very different things.
You just arguing to be correct isnt making a good argument for your clenelo boy... hey! You’re right! Buttttttt your boy tested positive for a banned ped. Cmon open your eyes a little...
Good stuff Crawford. Was a real dirty thing for that tool to of done. However, Isnt Crawford an American Boxer? Are we sure he has a passport?
He wouldn’t have killed that hype train over in Britain if he didn’t...
How convienient for Fury the head case ( second only to Wilder ) to compare Ruiz to his actual bum pick Shwartz , hes either really dumb or that BIG of a liar saying its an equal fight for both ? lol
I swear Fury and Wilder are PRAYING not to be pressured intoa Joshua fight,i can see both at home drooling of the thought . lol
The ONLY guy I see wanting to crash into AJ is Whyte,the other two have no balls ,they really don't . :sigh1:
Either this is Eddie Hearn promoting... or you’re a moron. Lol
Andre sent him an OFFICIAL OFFER. Don't dance around that fact.
Andres not the greatest draw though to much risk to little reward ggg stayed on that “all the belts” talk. It woulda been sick to see them both be undisputed at their weights and then fight! That woulda been sick too late though lol
He came in light against Ortiz as well. Lemme guess, he had a broken leg in that one? :lol1:
Pretty well known he had the flu... but you dksab so We expect this **** from you.