with usyk having gone through the past top opponents at heavy he probably doesnt have the motivation or need to fight this new lot & probably for quite a lot less cash as well, some will hold that against him when he retires saying he left good fights on the table & some wont and just say thats how boxing works and most guys do it that way
id say usyk would like wilder & then either fury or AJ again to finish off, he would probably like fury to take wardleys belt to make that happen, i dont see much interest in another fury fight whatever happens
I figured as much.
Did you see the Kabayel fight ? He's a bad dude. I should have known that he is a Kurd. I spent time in the mountains with them years ago. I like them .
very good
no didnt see the fight, yeah thats a tough part of the world they are from, fighting the IS as well
60 + 40 = 100
Where'd the extra 5% come from ? Oscar must be doing that Promoters math , or coke.
i assume he means the winner gets bumped up by 5% & the loser bumped down by 5%
55 45
65 35
this percentage talk is a nonsense - you can't spend a percentage bill you spend dollars. Boots should name his price - if he's happy with 7 million or whatever forget what the other guy gets - and 1 million extra for the winner - so 8 million if Boots wins.
whos putting up the cash? dazn? oscar & eddie involved as well
turki is the man for the upfront guarantee thats why they all like him, the only thing we have heard about the talks is now oscar with this info saying ortiz gets more, boots may well have put a figure on his fight but noone is willing to pay it, who know, ortiz may have done the same, more info will come out
I just wanna see the fight n Ortiz can say 50-50, 10% for winner, or whatever
oscar and ortiz are not going to say 50 50 thats clear and for sure, they have made their offer and thats probably it as for as it goes, its now up to boots to accept it and make the fight, boots still gets a nice payday at 45% if he wins but im thinking boots wont accept that offer and oscar doesnt want him to anyway, as for ortiz have no idea, if boots accepts the offer im sure he will go ahead with the fight but id say he is expecting boots to walk away as well
quite often when these terms are offered the guy balks & walks off in a huff & ortiz fans will say see he didnt actually want the fight after all what happened dare to be great it was a more than fair offer & boots fans will say see ortiz never wanted the fight at all & this pricing out proves it, boots was right not to sell himself short in the fight F oscar & ortiz for their diva behaviours who do they think they are anyway
teo & his fans say he always rises to the occasion in the big fights & dont pay attention to his poorer showing v guys who move a lot plus his off night v kambo, fair enough, well time to show this now, teo has done well in his big fights in the past so fair play to him in that yes, shakur is moving up again & teo is well established at his weight so no excuses in that regard, i think its going to be a close fight, im thinking teo could pip it, big win for whoever gets it
wardley kabayal & moses are the current 'guys' apart from usyk, kabayal has come on since 2024 after being out in the wilderness it seems for years, wardley has now made a spot for himself with a belt & moses is a young unproven guy with a lot of hype behind him now, its just how the heavy division is, a few wins in a row & u can be one of those guys, i dont think usyk wants to fight any of them & probably sees them as the next gen who will duke it out when he hits the road after a few cushy cash out fights which im sure he feels he very much deserves at his stage now
ryan garcia is like some really popular hoe who gets passed around and around
oscar trying to squeeze as much mulah out of him as possible
cheating, no problem
terrible performance loss, no problem
just fight for another belt why not
cryin has transcended boxing
yeah 25% sounds greedy on trainers behalf
trainer was not smart, he cut off his naz funding completely instead of it continuing but at a lower % but still a rising fee as nazs fees increased
promoter gets a nice slice as well so im sure naz was looking at the cash going out and thinking hold on a sec this is not adding up so well now
trainer should have agreed the 10 - 15% range and been happy with it
“He was regaining his composure, looking straight up as I came in from the side, and as soon as I got near him, I could see his eyes on me'
well there u go, the reason he didnt wave the fight off, its actually sensible to not attempt an immediate climb up after being knocked down at times, u wobble on the way up and then u get waved off
if prissy oscar & vergel wont budge at all if i were boots i would take the offer anyway, he will still get paid very well & if he backs himself it could be a win that would setup his entire career, catapult him into the big time
hypothetical matchups are almost a waste of time with top guys from different ereas, noone can say who would have won, there would have been shocks in the match ups thats for sure and some clear wins as well
1. Doping
dont include joey parker with the other lot, sniff is not performance enhancing as in joey boy was trying to cheat in his fight, big difference here
'You see 180lbs men fighting at 147lbs'
yes indeed and its very odd as well, im no doc but i really cant see how it can be healthy shedding all that water and putting it back in the day or so before a fight, why not just weight them right before they get in the ring to make sure they are on the correct weight for the fight that night, this method u have differences of 10 plus pounds in the ring even for a 147 fight, thats a weight class and a half weight difference in the ring, amazing really
'Cheating is not frowned upon in boxing. Getting caught cheating is'
a lot of people think those caught are just the tip of the iceberg and the unlucky ones and they may well be that, getting caught confirms all and puts a target on your back which u can never erase but its actually meaningless as all cheaters just carry on as normal, some immediately & some like eggie benn with issues and a longer timeframe plus there may well be issues with legitimate contamination but i would says that unlikely as if you consume random ebay like supplements then u are just pure dumb and nothing else, there are supplement brands out there that stand by their quality and i have never seen any athlete blame them for a positive test
'Boots is part of the plan, but it doesn’t have to be next'
oscar doesnt want the boots fight clearly, he wants to marinate his guy with the likes of spence and others that are sure wins for ortiz & ride the marination train as so often happens
so its going to be up to boots to see if he wants the fight or not, if he wants the fight he will accept those terms from oscar and call his bluff, a 45% split on win is not bad with ortiz probably the more popular guy who has fought better guys as well, sometimes u have to back yourself, i mean the best boots could get would be 50 / 50 so he is actually very close to that with a win
well boots believes he will win so the split then is 55 - 45 after he gets his win
its not up to eddie to make the decision, if it was he would make the deal as that fight is better then no fight for him, its up to boots whether he wants to accept those numbers
hes had 3 good stoppage wins in a row so he has 2 things, power and determination
hes also only won the wbo belt so dont get carried away, lots of guys with less experience win a belt
he is also losing his fights on the cards up until he gets his stoppages
dont worry someone will either out box or starch him at some point, thats heavy boxing, if u notice its one guy doing well then another, it was zhang at one point the bogeyman then bakole, joyce at one point was that guy & others, some fall away some push on, they all get beat apart from usyk so far
Fat Gilbert started at 160 and is fat af at cruiser
Badou started at 168 and is in good shape at cruiser
lol i just typed same thing before i read this post
cruiser could be Fat Dave’s WEIGHT APPROPRIATE division
These bigger opps can take his power better
BUT his stamina and volume should improve from cutting less weight
speed may be affected if he adds muscle for cruiser
Buff Guy Jai is a cruiser who’s big for his weight having fought at heavyweight when he was 21 for a minor regional belt
zurdo fought at 160 until 2013
both tall guys who can be skinny if they lose the muscle & can be big if they put on the muscle
remains to be seen if benny can be effective at cruiser
Smash so they could have fought when Fat Dave was 25 and Buff Guy Artur 36
Fat Dave squeezed back down to 168 in pursuit of Saul or was too green for Buff Guy Artur
Fat Dave a big boy who fought at 175 well before that when he was only 18
Prime Russian-Chechen Final Boss Buff Guy Artur was a problem Saul wanted nothing to do with him either
lol good find