The guy that suggested this is perhaps a few sandwiches, a hamper and a field short of a picnic.People might not fully agree with the rankings but to suggest ignoring rankings and giving fights based on what was achieved in sparring the best part of a decade ago is really something new.
I would love to see this guy compile a pound for pound list based not on champions or guys that are active and highly regarded in boxing circles but on one off sparring sessions that have taken place long enough ago to be of no relevance whatsoever to match-ups in 2011.
"Legends of sparring" that really cracks me up
The Mayweather clan make the average uneducated crackhead look like Noam Chomsky!
What we need to realise is Roger is used to his neice..sorry nephew weighing in at welter but refusing to fight a welter in their prime (or more than one welter in 4 years) He see's him go the distance with JMM (a natural lightweight)although Floyd has weight cheated and come in heavy he still cant KO him. He has seen him go 10 rounds with Hatton (a boxer who in his only outing at WW looked awful,what does Floyd do?Makes him come up to WW) before he Ko'd him,he has seen Floyd struggle to KO anyone that is in his weight division when Floyd is on xylocaine and figures "If my juiced up nephew cant KO a midget then how can Pac possibly beat someone his own weight or bigger?" He then comes up with an expletive filled rant as this is as diplomatic as his drugged up brain allows him to be.
I am split over this one. Ricky still works in a sports shop so is not raking in the coin for his troubles. Part of me would love to see him in a unification bout next. The other part would like to see Warren do his usual thing of making a few eas(ier)title defences and making some money for the boxer as long as he doesnt do a Calzaghe and make a decade of debatable qualiity title challengers.
Dont see for a second why Burns cant beat Fana though and if he did it would be great to have a Scottish boy with the Ring belt and two of the alphabet titles.Also Ricky managed to get 7000 fans along for the last fight, if it was a unification fight he could make it outdoors at Firhill or somewhere and take over 10000 which would be great for Scottish boxing in general.
I'm so sick of casual fans that dont appreciate greatness and only "Repeat" what some critics and analysts say. There are many different styles of boxing just like mma and not every fighter from boxing/mma uses every style. The same people that call deontay wilder trash are the same ones that think the same about Mayweather because floyd chooses to hit and not get hit. Wilder is an all time Great and No one beats him but a cheat.
What did Fury do to cheat this time?
So sincere of Oscar to offer an apology via twitter, thats how things should be done. Apologising in person is for scumbags!
Its great to see that drug addict De La Hoya has decided to withdraw his drug allegations about Pacquiao. You know your arument is seriously flawed when you have a drug addict (De La Hoya) and convicted drug smuggler (Mayweather Sr) as two of your most reputable accusers.
Is it just me or is being involved in promoting some boxers whilst trying to absolutely ruin other boxers not good for your overall reputation as a boxing promoter?
"Rubbish !!
History will reflect that Pacquiao killed the fight because he would not submit to random blood testing without a 24 day cut-off....."
I am objective enough to admit I am unable to predict the future, NOBODY can so you cant say this for sure what world history will reflect. What I can say is this was in the past so is essentially history and it is still viewed that Mayweather tried to dictate new laws to boxing rather than Pacquaio avoiding anything. No other boxer has to submit to Mayweathers tests in any other fight round the world not involving Mayweather.If Mayweather dictated that his opponents had to fight one-legged would you find it a tad strange?or just say the opponent didnt take the challenge?Every boxer is unclean given your argument as they dont have to do Mayweathers tests. A boxer should not be able to stipulate the rules, they cant be judge jury and executioner
Fact is Mayweather see's how Pac boxes and knows he would lose to the current Pac so he accuses him of being on steroids.If Mayweather is really is good as he claims to be he would let that "midget" have his roids, Mayweather would come in heavier and beat him. Fact is Mayweather is scared otherwise there would have been no excuses.
Good boxers in the past have faced opponents on PED's and beaten them. Mayweather is not in the class of these boxers though and Pac is not on PED's.
The fact of the matter is no boxing council has requested these tests so history SHOULD (I say should as again, I cannot predict the future) show that Mayweather tried to change the rules of the game to avoid fighting. Alternatively it will show that Pac always adhered to the rules of the game and was never found to be on PED's.
Such ambition shown by Mundine, from talking about going to the US to fight Cotto only a few months ago to trying to to get another avergage PPV show and charge the Australian public through the nose to watch his drivel. He would then lose and say he is "hungrier than ever" and thinking of fighting Carl Froch then dropping down in weight the same evening to take on Martinez as well.
This guy is full of ****e.
So its ok for Manny to come in at 148lbs for a 154lbs title shot?
You dont seem to have grasped the idea of a weight limit, Nonito Donaire can challenge for the cruiserwight title for instance and stay at his current weight, so long as a fighter does not weight more than the agreed limit the fight is good to go. A smaller man is perfectly entitled to challenge a larger boxer should they wish to do so. As long as they dont ask the other boxer to come down in weight (when challenging for titles) then whats to complain about? If Nonito Donaire was to KO Klitschko would you complain he had an adavantage as he came in under heavyweight? If so please start watching another sport as you dont understand boxing.
Fact is this was arranged at 150lbs as a non title fight, there is nothing wrong with catchweights for non title fights, they agreed to 150lbs so if Canelo comes in over he IS effectively cheating the contract.The fact it is a title fight is entirely down to GBP and the WBC who car more about money than their boxers or boxing fans.
Is this about boxing or an ongoing your are gay,no you are gay conversation? Judging by his posts and the look of him Grustler cant possibly be gay, that would be a compliment to him, not even the ugliest most desperate homo on earth would touch a gimp like Grustler.
Can we get back to boxing now?
DeGale see's fireworks, am I the only one that see's headbutts??????
Ward has already said he pretty much wants to go all Sven Otke with his career and only fight at home ( he will view fighting in Vegas as abroad as he isnt allowed the old Oakland Headbutt there) He feels he has proved the right to only fight at home and we have all seen that at home he is one hell of a dirty fighter.DeGale simply needs to go to Oakland to make this happen as Ward has shown in the Super 6's he feels an entitlement to fight in fron of home judges each time and always have the other fighter in his back yard.
My verdict is out until he fights away from home.
"The Klitchkos are the Harlem Globetrotters of Boxing"
Last time I checked "Globe trotting" suggested traveling the planet. The Klitschkos only fight out of Germany where they own the judges etc. You sign a contract, if you beat one of them you are a world champ but have to fight the other brother in Germany. If you win that you will hold 3 of the belts and nearly have unified the division. You will then need to go back to Germany and fight another brother who has no belt when in reality you shoul be fighting the remaining belt holder of the division to prove your dominancy.The contracts they make people sign plus their refusal to fight each other pretty much ensures belts stay in their hands at all times.
Anyone who thinks after beating both Klitchskos you should give one brother a rematch in his own back yard ( I know he is Ukranian but he is loved in Germany) rather than trying to unify the division isnt being too objective in their thinking.
cant wait for crawfotd to knock this overhyped bum out if lopez had won hed have had his tongue down his shorts for the payday
I sometimes read comments by boxing "fans" and just wonder what alternate reality they live in or are they just making up stuff to get a reaction because they have empty lives? An undefeated, undisputed champion and top ten p4p ranked boxer is no more than a bum?
"If Lopez had won".... He didnt. If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bicycle.
The internet is full of idiots spouting absolute nonsense that does nothing more than make them look foolish.
This was always destined to happen,DeGale has been looking to far to the future for a while. Not long ago he was syaing he couldnt possibly lose until he was fighting for World Champions belts in Vegas and now some "ugly ginger kid" with no boxing ability has beaten him. Fights are won in the ring, they are not won with childish insults. DeGale was as smart in the ring the other night as he is out of the ring and he has shown himself to be a stupid little boy out the ring so he wasnt smart at all.
Now for Frank Warren to give him a run of 27 safe fights in a row to regain his confidence (or should that be arrogance)
Stick to boxing James, you aint funny,you aint likable and you aint showing decent boxing skills no more.
I hope he gets Ko'd and just retires, there are only so many empty vows you can make, Mundine is scared to go to America on holiday let alone to box anyone yet has been bangin on about it for years. If he loses chances are he will drop down another weight division or two,Lenny Zapavigna watch out!
I find this quite funny Alvarez is basically saying "The WBC are a joke,they let no-hopers fight for a title without any justification" His statement basically shows the hypocrisy of the whole situation. Both GBP and the WBC should hang their heads in shame, WBC for allowing it to be a title fight (nothing to do with catchweight,simply that neither boxer is a highly ranked Jr Middle and more accomplished Jr Middles were overlooked) and GBP for pressuring the WBC to make this a title fight against someone who is a welter and not even Britains best Welter at that let alone a world class Jr Middle.
I would hope anyone who criticizes Haye is not a fan of Floyd Mayweather? They are becoming the same boxer, run their mouths off whilst running away from decent fights. Embracing the worst value fights ( I say fights, only one person can possibly win them)for the fans (who still pay,and best value for them who get millions of $ for providing zero entertainment) and leaving their best days behind them while bragging about what they will do in the future.
Haye should go ahead with it though, if Klitschko gets cut or whatever in the Chisora fight its his own fault and if he then didnt go ahead with the agreed fight on July 2nd with Haye he should have his belt stripped from him. I would never normally advocate stripping an injured boxers belt from them however if they are that confident they can beat one heavyweight world challenger boxer then take on another two months later they should live up to their predictions or suffer accordingly.
Didnt Frank Warren used to have fighters that people have heard of? He must have fallen off hard to now be writing for a boxing website, and using that "opportunity" to maker ridiculous challenges simply to get the names of his unknown bums in the media. Must be why he's called Wank Warren these days
You are aware that De Gale is the olympic champion? The fact you havent heard of him reflects worse on your boxing knowledge than Frank Warrens stable of fighters. I presume you have no knowledge of boxers until they fight for world titles etc rather than having ANY knowledge whatsoever of up and coming boxers and being able to form opinion based on what you have seen rather than what you feel a WBC belt confirms to you.I dont even like Warren but if you think the Olympic champion is an unknown bum then you are showing your true colours which are that of the ignorant fan.:fing26:
All hail the truth above this. Its like two pieces of crap that have come out the same mans Ahole at the same time,they then proceed to argue as to which of them smells more.
Essentially the headline could have read "pot calls kettle black"
Wilder reminds me in many ways of one of his past opponents, Charlie Zelenhoff. Unless you physically kill him in the ring he will with all sincerity spout excuses about how he didn't lose. Zelenhoff still speaks of having defeated Wilder. Wilder says that in spite of bleeding out of the ear and nose and barely being able to stand he was not hurt.
He also wants us to know he is a big tough warrior but at the same time havi g to carry the equivalent weifht of a 3 to 4 year old child in to the ring was enough to drain all his energy.
Even down to his claim of Fury punching like a little girl, why did you go twelve rounds life and death against some that punches like a kid. Am I supposed to respect you more for that?
As it stands if Wilder doesn't die in the ring then in his head he wins. What a deluded prick.
Expect Abraham to come away with his face cut to shreds from constant headbutts by Ward. Someone is doing everything in their power to ensure Ward wins the Super 6. America needs a new boxing star and one way to create one is to ensure homestate advantage in every stage of the Super 6 while all other competitors are expected to compete on different terms altogether. Every other boxer has boxed in an opposing boxers home country,some of the outcomes have been disputable, Ward is not even having to fight outwith his homestate in order to ensure that in the case of a close decision the nod is given to him.He has no change in training in terms of different climates, different times of day GMT (he doesnt even have a change to his slepping pattern,jet-lag etc).
The treatment Ward is receiving is souring the tournament for me. In a 100% fair tournament everyone should have to box away from home at some stage and face the same adversity that is expected of their opponents when they come to face Ward.
As long as she didnt accuse him of biting her then it is probgably true. Roger cant bite much with the damage smoking crack has done to his fron teeth.
The only problem is its the Mayweather clans God given right to smash up woman, what else will Floyd do if he cant beat woman?????.......certainly not box.The only reason Floyd beat his baby mama was his internet connection at home wasnt working so he couldnt insult people from behind the safety of his webcam.
People need to get with the program, a woman accuses Roger of assault and that all "bullsh1t" etc etc in Rogers view but its totally ok for him to accuse someone of something and that makes them guilty.This is how it works and we should believe everything from the Mayweather family's mouths as they are bastions of integrity and decency for our generation. Floyd smashes womans faces with "nothing but love" , Floyd Sr smokes crack and Roger strangles woman but its all good........all good,as long as tests are not for xylocaine or secondhand crack smoke its all good!
Floyd should have been a track and field star, he just loves running. First its running away from ALL welterweight boxers for half a decade, then its running away from Pacquaio whilst running his mouth off. All he wanted was some fun that night (kinda like when kids chap someones door and run away) he just wanted to be chased. He has alienated all his friends and he doesnt like woman (or he wouldnt keep beating them up) he just wanted some company.
If Floyds crack addicted family could only have given him some cuddles when he was young none of this would have happened.
The WBA see's the world through "greed tinted spectacles" this causes logic to be invisible to them. How they cannot see that they are cheapening their belts and selling fans short is beyond me.
On the positive side my Gran will become "WBA Super Heavyweight Tuesday Morning Diamantium Champ" this weekend, she is a 90 year old woman who would not be a heavyweight even if 4 of her friends stood on her shoulders but I simply asked (by asked mean paid) the WBA and voila a new belt is invented.
Look to be seeing genuine WBA world titles available in a sport shop near you soon (the title depends on how much you pay)
Don King giving to families instead of taking their son's lives away from them! No amount of turkey giveaways will make up for the fact he killed two men (that we know of) and was responsible for turning the boxing game in to a promotional minefield which suffers to this day accordingly.
Tyson Fury doesnt actually need opponents at this stage in his career. One of the best punches landed on him was when he managed to uppercut himself (check it out on youtube).Fat gypsy's that are unable to dodge their own punches should stick to fairground tents.
PS, I think his name is Luke, Tyson is the middle name, he just used that as would anyone care about "Luke Fury" a 6 foot nine, 20 odd stone man that cannot avoid his own punches if "Tyson" wasnt mentioned?
Let me guess, this has now given Mundine a new hunger, he will go fight Cotto but first he needs a few touch up fights (maybe 7) against bums on midweek PPV to rip off Australian boxing fans.
You lost to a bum Mundine, you then came back and beat said bum, you Mr Mundine are a bum now, thats your level, please retire ASAP.
mitchell an overhyped english bum,rocky martinez will ko burns,in 6 or 7i give him 7 rounds the most because he is gonna run for his life once he feels rocky martinez power!these english fighters like to use home court advantage,but rocky wont need the judges.his fist will be the judge for this fight,because if it goes the distance theyll rob rocky,those english officials are grimey and corrupt!
What part of England is Scotland in?In case you hand not noticed Ricky Burns comes from Scotland. We all know when it comes to home court advantage and corrupt judges America leads the way,thats why so many American boxers refuse to box outside of their country
I would say its also safe to assume that Roger was on PED's throughout his whole career and Floyd was also until he started fighting exclusively in Vegas and now only juices using xylocaine.
Roger was tested and never found to be on PED's
Floyd has been tested and never found to be on PED's
Pac was tested and never found to be on PED's.
This suggest Roger was on them and so was Floyd and yet they managed to pass the tests,they are now suspicious of others as they know they have gotten away with it and are confident other boxers could do this.Otherwise surely its innocent until proven guilty?
Its like someone that passes a lie detector test and then becomes suspicous that everyone else is a liar as they know they are and have gotten away with it.
What Roger should do is ask his nephew "Money" for some money to fix his teeth which are surely a bigger giveaway of drug use than even the most accurate drug test!