The hardest puncher (within my weight class) was not a tall, lanky guy. He was average height, compact, with broad shoulders. He hit harder than many guys much bigger than him. Also, there is different types of power. It's hard to say what is "the hardest."
I'll give you a classic example seeing as how Earnie Shavers just died. Shaver's punches were described as a shotgun blast. When he hit a guy, it was described with words like "explosion" or "shotgun blast." But then you have George Foreman, and his punches were described as a different kind of power. His were like thudding shots that made you whole body shake, from head to toe. You can have this same comparison when you look at Adonis Stevenson and Artur Beterbiev. Stevenson was more like a shotgun type power while Beterbiev is more like a sledge hammer.
I don't know how hard you hit, and I can't say that your body type is conducive to generating power. I've seen plenty of guys that are tall and lanky that have pillows for fists. There's something else to it than just merely body type. I don't know what it is, but at the same time, I know what it's not.
(BTW: If you want to make a video, use sound and make it longer, that way we can see exactly what you are doing and hear the sound of your fist connecting. That would help a little. But the best way to know whether you hit hard is to have your sparring partner or coach tell you if you hit hard. That's usually how you find out. Either that or the fact that you are fighting and stopping guys.)
There is sound in my videos dude..
He just seeks validation as you said, and this is just the wrong place for it
No. Let's get back on track. I just used me as an example. Someone claimed I don't punch hard. I defended it.
Let's move on.
Again, I see you aren't wearing boxing gloves. Again, I see you are just throwing a lead straight, instead of combinations (with hooks and overhands). You might want to find a bareknuckle forum to post on. Here, we talk about boxing, not bareknuckle. You'll get better feedback on a forum such as that. In fact, I'm not sure why you are not posting on Sherdog.com. That's where you should be posting on.
Joe Frazier hitting bareknuckle
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aKzWFRpgPGY
Machen, Foley, Cleveland Williams x2 just off the top of my head. And Williams didn’t have a bullet in his stomach at the time.
Seriously OP?
None of who'm are hall of famers.
Wide shoulders as in your bone structure, that cant be changed with weight lifting.
Just measure your armspan and see how long it is.
And as for your punching power, punch people in the face and see their reaction, we cant tell you anything here.
Your posture is contracted when you don't train your body. The back elongates with muscles.
You see my body quite clearly. It's bigger or equal to Tommy Hearns's. He got me on the fists though.
I didn't watch the whole video, but from the little bit I watched Teddy didn't say or imply that people with less length can't peoduce good torque.
The longer you are, the more leverage will benefit your torque. It's why you may be able to loosen up a bolt with a longer wrench than a shorter one. The added length helps you transfer more power. Same principle with your punching. If you have length and good technique to make the most out of it you will maximize your punching power from a mechanical stand point.
Bringing up Mike Tyson helps illustrate my initial point. Your thread title implies having Hearns' body type automatically means you'll be a dangerous puncher. Maybe that's not what you meant, but that's what it sounded like to me. However, there are different types of punching powers and many factors that play into each one of them. Body structure is one, technique is another, as well as speed, strength, fast twitch muscles, bone density, etc.
But what has that got to do with being thin? It's the long reach that enable you to torque a lot. He made a point about them being thin also.
Third, you are punching without gloves or wraps. If you are punching as hard as you can without wraps or gloves on and you]
The bag only weighs 66 pounds. I don't need to go a 100% in order for you to determine whether I'm a puncher on not. That's silly. I also use good hand technique to avoid hurting myself. Bareknuckle boxing is a thing you know.
Not a bum but overrated in my opinion.
Of course, greater boxing minds than mine disagree, so there's that.
He literally can't time a shot on someone who moves around like Machen or Ali..he had nothing on them.
His jab is also grossly overrated. It was poor defensively and Ali punished him for it in the rematch.
And he was relatively slow.
Strong suits in his prime: tough, powerful.
Here's someone who is not a puncher.
You can see that it's in the lack of weight shift. Fury just doesn't have the athleticism for his right hand. There no real weight transfer or kinetic energy (acceleration)
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/mMUfwKXU0T4
You're skinny with t rex arms, hearns and people with his frame were lean with long arms and wide shoulders, you have the frame of a paulie malihoweveryouspellhisnamegi.
I have quite wide shoulders if I lift weights.
Nah.
Teddy Atlas: Who's the hardest puncher you ever faced?
Evander Holyfield: George Foreman.
It's at 5:25
https://youtu.be/5HrP-pTsR7o
He never faced a Wilder physique though who could bang?
Your arms look normal and proportional to the rest of your body.
Well my power isn't. And it doesn't matter if I fast twitch or go slow. Maybe it's just good weight shift. I dunno.
So he’s fought two Hall of Famers and went 1-1
he’s also 6-0 (6) against opponents who also faced Ali.
what a bum.
He never had a tough champion caliber rival that he actually beat. It was a strong era for sure.
You're skinny with t rex arms, hearns and people with his frame were lean with long arms and wide shoulders, you have the frame of a paulie malihoweveryouspellhisnamegi.
I have the exact same arms as deontay Wilder. He's just in better shape.
That's fine, but having that body type alone won't be enough. I could have the perfect dimensions for swimming or sprinting, but that alone won't make me a good swimmer or sprinter. It's just one of many factors that can play into it.
He meant of the guys born with the punch. I thought this was understood. The physique itself does not determine how much you can excert yourself.
Assuming you can, one is stocky, the other is wiry, Cus claimed the wiry was more lethal
I agree that tall, long, lean and wiry guys do have the advantage when it comes to punching power because many of them are naturally heavier than their opponents in each respective weight division. Many of them often strain themselves just in order to make weight. Which is the reason why they are appear so thin and strong at the same time. Some of these guys are cutting more than 40 pounds just to make the weight.
Julian Jackson and G-man didn't really have that edge though in their divisions did they?
I don’t think there’s just one type of physique that is optimal for being a hard puncher. You see fat guys, short, stalky guys, short armed skinny guys and bulky muscle heads who can knock people’s heads off their shoulders. There’s way more to punching power than simply body type. I can’t even tell if you hit hard based on the video you showed. Are we supposed to judge it based on the sound it makes?? You might be a hard puncher or you might be feather fisted. The video doesn’t tell us one way or the other.
No of course. Cus meant if you have a big puncher and can pick physique between those big punchers.
I think he will KO him. Early in Fury's career he was known as a puncher, but he was fighting with no style and every fight was just a scrappy brawl, then Peter Fury mastered him from a defensive standpoint, and he became a master boxer, then people just assumed he could not punch, but everyone sparring him said massive power, which has since been proven. The man can bang. Up there with anyone, except Wilder. Nash out.
Dude. Fury has MASSIVE arms. There's no way he doesn't have power from that alone. His power shots were awful though until the last Wilder fight were he really went next level. Now he can both bang and jab...
I can't say right now. But if you film yourself for 10 secs, punching a legit heavy bag with some wraps and gloves on, so you can really whop it, I'll let you know if I'll fight you or duck you :D
You wanted hooks. Maybe now you can see..
Puncher or Pauli. Maligniaggi?
https://youtu.be/YUYbl1oyliY
Yeah. That's what I thought. I knew it was one of those little kid heavy bags. I'll tell you what, why don't you put some boxing gloves on and hit a 100 to 150 pound heavy bag. Record it. Then post the video. Hit that heavy bag as hard as you can with some combos for about 10 seconds. Put some hooks in there. Mix it up. Then show us what you can do. We'll let you know if you have power. :boxing:
Haven't you seen other dudes hit 66 pound bags bare knuckle? Would you trade blows with me?
I'm just a skinny dude. Don't be afraid. . :)
But the op doesn't seem open to a reasonable conversation. He .
Cus D'amoto claimed that people with lighter, skinny physique could rotate their hips further, and with a lighter arm could generate massive torques.
So it's a combination of weight placement and skeletal structure
My coach had a Hearns type physique (including reach) and he was by far the hardest puncher in there. Me and him blasted the hardest.
Teddy explains the reason well. With that length you can get great leverage & torque. That's obviously an advantage when it comes to punching power, but I wouldn't go as far as to think that just because someone is tall and lanky that they automatically are the strongest punchers.
That's not what he's saying. Again, if you have strength (yes strength is a huge factor in power) then Teddy and Cus believe that the wiry body type will give you an edge.
However, why does he think stocky dudes can't torque as well? Didn't mike Tyson prove they torque just as well?