This win against Canelo has gone to his head so much his ego is actually insane. Fair play for winning when most people thought he would lose but make no mistake Canelo has been on the decline for around 5 years looking worse with each fight so lets not pretend he beat prime Canelo. Bud despite being a great fighter just doesn't have the resume to be in the conversation with Pacquiao or Mayweather, his best 2 wins are against faded fighters in Spence and Canelo other than that his resume is pretty lackluster.
Shakur Stevenson is going to teach this filthy fucking loud mouth racist punk a lesson!
Are we forgetting Stevenson was beating up a random guy in the street while his friend was punching up women in the same video he's a scumbag himself. Should be a good fight if Teo brings his A game about time Shakur fought somebody of note.
See, thats that bullshit Im talking about.
I heard it from the commentating team, too.
Saying Cruz was a "wannabe" boxer.
Guy is a world title holder.
Yeah, think the guy can "box" a little bit.
Tbf so was Wilder and he couldn't box for shit
Crawford is sitting in the cat bird seat now. So if Canelo is really serious about a rematch.
Then Bud should demand a 60/40 purse split, a catchweight at 158lbs and a rehydration clause.
Crawford has options. So where else is Canelo gonna go? If he moves to 160 or 175 he’ll get his asswhooped.
Terence is A side now.
Bud is not the A side at all, Canelo could fight his local postman and outsell Bud vs a top contender. Sure Bud has other options but none of them will bring them the kind of money Canelo would. I don't care to see the rematch because Canelo looked like shit with his feet in the sand. I think Canelo has been in too many fights and has been on the slide for a long time.
Who the **** is Fabio and what has he done to earn a shot at the lineal undisputed title?
Sounds like the William scull of the heavyweight division
I don't blame Usyk for telling WBO to **** off
Who do you suggest he fights then? people saying moises not earned the shot and fabio hasn't earned the shot as i say Usyk might as well retire then.
Some say he is an ATG. If he thinks so too, he has nothing more to prove. He just has to keep making the big bucks which he probably uses for philanthropic purposes back in Ukraine.
I think hes a great fighter and possibly an atg also not knocking his fighting ability i just don't think he has fought enough over his career to solidify him as a top 10 of all time or anything like that. Well thats the thing its money or credibility he's just stuck in a shitty position due to his countries struggles. I just feel if you have nothing left to prove then just retire obv my opinion though as a boxing fan i would like to see him keep fighting the top 10 dudes.
I very much doubt Usyk is ducking Wardley but i do think Usyk needs to keep more busy i don't think his resume is going to age too well purely through the inactivity he has only fought 5 fighters at heavyweight overall with all the rematches. I think styles make fights and if he isn't willing to fight more of the top guys going forward then he should just retire because whats the point.
Still more skilled than any HW around today which is 50 years later.
Is he though? go watch that Ali v Frazier fight he does nothing but get punched in the face throw a punch then clinch i was actually shocked watching that fight hearing how good Ali is then watching that... You really think he's more skilled than Usyk/Fury? must be having a laugh mate.
I think Ali was definitely more skilled than Fury, but at the end of the day the skill gap wouldnt be enough to overcome the size difference head to head.
Fair enough mate we can all have opinions i just think Ali clinched a hell of a lot and gets hit a hell of a lot more so than Fury i think people need to go watch some of his old fights to refresh their memory than watch a fight of today and see how overrated Ali is, he is basically a punchbag half the time that's why he got ill so young. As i say i mean no disrespect i like Ali he was charismatic and a legend but in terms of fighting ability he's 100% overrated.
Man, Fury fought 1 elite guy in his all career.
And you compare him with Ali, who fought all the best men in two decades?
I mean, cmon now. If anything, today`s heavyweights are overrated.
Fury fought 1 elite guy in Klitschko. Whyte and Wilder would be bums in Ali`s era.
I didn't say Fury has a better career or legacy just straight up head to head based on skill/dimensions Ali would lose no doubt about it. People have just put him on this magical pedestal nobody can compare to he was able to beat them guys because their skills were also primitive like Frazier i don't mean any disrespect these are legends and good fighters but as i said before nutrition changes, work outs change, techniques change that's just progression and evolution we get better with time. Older boxers were bigger warriors than the prima donnas today but overall the skill is higher now imo.
He is overrated when you have people saying he will blow out the people in todays division there is no way you can go back and watch them fights even Frazier v Ali and say he would beat todays best. When u ask people why they think Ali is the best boxer they will say "for what he did outside the ring" that holds no relevance whatsoever on actual skill. I firmly believe Fury would beat Ali if they fought.
Yeah, i wouldn't worry about your weight or anything yet. Just go to a local boxing club and give it a go, do some training, maybe get in and do a bit of sparring after that and see if you enjoy it.
Yeah I just look into things too much and try to be the best in everything I do. Thanks for the support man appreciate it.
if you truly are good and work hard, you can make it to the top.
just don't ignore developing speed and power (with exercises).
skills you can develop with more practice.
you need a few things in boxing:
-brain (study fights. study good fighters)
-skills (practice, train, spar)
-speed and power (practice, train, exercise)
-heart (this you can't really develop. You have to have a big heart)
Yeah as I say I've always been into boxing so watched a fair few fights so far lol it just saddens me how I never started sooner but can't change that now. I've always been somewhat athletic just from genetics and a little stocky for my size.
Can't wait to start now tbh lol how much training should I start with? I was thinking 2 hours or so a day to start with working up to 6 a day.
10 stone = 140lbs. He's a super featherweight if we go by todays standards of dehydrating.
Super featherweight? Jeez didn't think I was that skinny lol n I'm 5"9 just checked my record.
Na man go for it
But b realistic
Are you looking to go pro, get a few amateur fights under ur belt or keep fit and spar??
Go pro mate but also for the fitness and sparring, I just wanted advice from people who actually box/know what there talking about lol I just get a bit put off when I see all these pro's started really young and I just thought to myself "even if I work extremely hard because of my age I'm ****ed" meh just a nagging doubt.
If you say so, then yeah you are. Once you doubt yourself, you are in trouble. Boxing is a mind game. You need to be mentally strong to box successfully.
Nah it ain't like that lol I did a little research before posting here, the negativity flying around on the internet in regard to boxing and age is madness lol basically if your over 23 you got no chance. That's why I took the time to make an account n post here to see what actual boxers think ;) the fact that you guys are being positive is making me feel a lot more positive about it.
Maybe, but i was thinking if he was on the thin/skinny side which i assumed by his height:weight ratio, then if he added a bit of muscle and got in fighting shape he might actually gain a bit of weight. 5'10" would be very, very rare for a featherweight. It's even tall for a Welterweight, i know there is exceptions, but generally speaking...
Tbh I didn't think 5"10 was tall for any class tbh lol I'm actually 5"9 though how much weight will I need to put on?
If you think you can do it, why not? But don't go in with a big head. Take baby steps and have goals. But don't think it will be easy, you have to give your life to boxing if you want to be good/ great. On this site the word bum is passed around to any fighter that isn't an ATG, but there has been very few bums that step in the ring.
Good luck.
Different sport but about 10 years ago I had 7-8 friends that started MMA, they trained a little (a couple times a week maybe, no cardio, some even smoked cigs), within a month or 2 after starting they fought on a card and I went to watch/ support them. They all except for 1, got their asses kicked (no one got KO'd they showed heart, but the fights weren't competitive), so they fought again a month or so later, everyone lost, all except 1 quit (he was 6 ft. 4 in. 250). They jumped in to actual fights way too quick and it killed their spirit, took their confidence. But even if they somehow won, they would have never made it because they didn't give 100% of what was needed, they thought because they could fight and were tough that was all you needed.
Yeah I've smoked a lot of weed for the last few years (8) last couple years it's been an everyday thing (that's why I delayed starting boxing) all I cared about was weed how sad it was lol anyway I've quit now for 3 months and feel like I've just come out of a deep dream, realise I got nothing and I want to start climbing to some form of success/accomplishment, I've always loved fighting full stop but boxing the most lol I remember being like 12 years old sitting there watching the full rocky box set, even though it ain't realistic I still loved the whole spirit of it and what it represents (the inner tiger and releasing it) as sad as that sounds lol.
Sorry about the grammar again guys haven't slept all night and it's now 8.10, brain a little fried aha.
Go for it, youll know after a year or two where ur future lies
U sound like ur from UK? Whereabouts?
Yeah I'm from the UK originally from Birmingham now in leicester which I hate but not the point lol, thanks all :) I really want to give it a shot and you've all given me a good boost.
5"9 - 5"10 and 10 stone, you would probably be more suited to somewhere around Welterweight i would have thought, that's even pretty tall for welterweight. Actually that's pretty tall for 10 stone, i'm assuming you must be more on the thin side now?
Sounds kind of stupid but I have biggish arms big legs and a super thin waist that won't grow! Lol
Nobody can say. It depends on how your body naturally feels best when you consider yourself to be in fighting shape,
There's no rules regarding height, Tommy Hearns was like 6'1 and weltwerweight. Paul Williams was tall too.
Well put it this way, at 5'9 you are taller than Floyd, Thurman, Maidana, Khan, Manny etc...i think the only top guy the same height as you in the Welterweight division is Brook at 5'9.
As i say, it's not a rule and everyone is different but in general you are considered tall if you were a welterweight.
I always thought I was a midget as well for a man lol thanks for the info I'm just gonna start cracking with it and see where it leads me lol there can be no negatives to boxing even if I don't get very far. I've always been considered strong for my height/weight even when I was young, let's hope that goes in my favour aye.
I got a feeling there might be an upset tonight, i feel Parker should win and i want him to win but i think he might get caught with a huge shot he won't recover from. If slow Joe could catch Parker then Wardly should be able to also.
Like I said the other day , were you saying that after Spence whooped Ugas ???
Prefabricated bullchit cause Spence looked great beating Ugas but afterwards he’s damaged goods
No mention of the damaged goods when he fought Garcia either
Lmfao
Is that the fight where Spence was so out of it he went looking for his gum shield while he was getting punched nearly getting knocked out? if so then he didn't look great by any stretch and i don't recall anybody saying that he looked great.
Bud haters all around
Still waiting for you to show me that regional title
I think you taking this well too seriously man talking about bud haters all around, this is a discussion board and people have brought valid points to the discussion not everything is about being a fan or being a hater listen is Crawford a good fighter? yes he is but was the Spence win tainted? yes it was both things can be true. At the end of the day context matters in regards to fighters resumes like Rocky Marciano never being brought up as one of the best despite beating Joe Louis and Ezzard Charles ect because they were old and past their best resumes will always be dissected by boxing fans thats just part of the sport.
My only problem is no one said a word when Spence beat Garcia and Ugas
After his dismantling from Bud , he was damaged goods
And Marciano does deserve credit for his wins
I think you’re taking this more at heart than I am
Trust won’t be losing any sleep
People were saying stuff though if you do a search between the time period (if you can) i'm sure you will find many posts regarding him being damaged goods. Nah i'm not at all you just calling everyone a hater for valid criticism.
Never said he looked great but no one also said he was damaged goods
But the Bud haters who became Boots fans wil tell you he was damaged goods not to give Bud any credit
Which imo is a bullchit narrative
They’re the same ones who claim that Bud avoided Boots lmao
To be fair people have been calling Spence damaged good years before the Crawford fight his alcoholism is documented and we all seen that crash clip nobody comes out of something like that the same not to mention the torn retina from sparring. Listen i don't hate Crawford but that win is slightly tainted due to the pair of them (Spence being unprofessional and Crawford leaving the fight so long)
Can't believe when he said this what a dummy even if he is going this route he should of at least kept it to himself and come up with better reasons. Dunno why this guy gets so much hype he's good but has fought nobody and by sounds of things plans on fighting nobody.
Here we go again...
Spence is the most overrated guy in this generation. Couldn`t stop lightweight Mikey Garcia, couldn`t stop "a gatekeeper" Danny Garcia, struggled badly with "overrated" Shawn Porter..
If you mean me i'm not saying Spence would win i was just simply saying not many really thought Porter was going to win just that he was going to test Crawford. It's Spence a lot of people claim will beat Crawford.