Even though Mosley was ranked higher, we all know that he wasn't anywhere near his prime and that Cotto was the better welterweight.
As for Cotto being past his prime, that's just a made-up excuse.
Doesn't matter if they rate him at #1. Everyone knows the true #1 is Pacquiao.
In his last three fights, Mayweather beat Hatton (not at his division), a lightweight in Marquez and a past-prime great in Mosley.
On the other hand, Pacquiao beat Hatton (at his division), Cotto and Clottey.
They shouldn't even be compared.
Mosley being past prime doesn't affect his power...:pat:
He was slower and not as precise with his punches, though. And Hearns had much more power, was faster and more precise.
Hearns by KO.
Along with his amazing knockout power, he's got great speed and has the height and reach advantage.
I used to think he would've gotten a decision, but after Mayweather got hurt and nearly knocked down by a past-prime Mosley, I've changed my opinion.
See you have an agenda and there is no way to debate with you because nothing will change your mind. There is a reason why Shane gassed so badly and that's because of Floyd Mayweather jr was in the ring with him.
You won't debate with me, because you have nothing to come back with.
And the reason Mosley gassed out was because he wasn't anywhere near the same version of himself that he was in his prime. All fighters who are way past their prime have trouble dealing with stamina. Plus, being out of the ring for almost 1 and half years probably didn't help him.
now Mosley is old and past his prime lol lol lol lol excuses when he won against Margacheto he was the one now he is old lol please
So you think the Mosley that fought last night was the same Mosley that fought DLH in their first fight?
Get a clue!
One of your points was that it was a joke that Shane was able to buzz Floyd. Yet, I give you reason as to why Shane is one of the strongest punchers and you discredit it because the guy that he cracked is a punching bag? Margarito has a great chin and had really never been out until Shanes POWER got to him. Shane is the strongest puncher in the division and there is no shame in getting buzzed by him. Stop hating.
Anyone can look good against a punching bag. Margarito was useless without his plaster wraps and his power was basically gone. After getting hit like he was a certain number of times, you're bound to go down.
Even if Mosley is the biggest puncher in the division (which he's not), he was nothing but a shell of his former self. Maybe not even that. Not to mention that he gassed out by the third round and was breathing heavily.
So what if he's a punching bag. Does that change the fact that he had an iron chin and Mosley was the first man to really crack that ass. Mosley is a strong sob and it is not surprising that he cracked Floyd a bit. What is more surprising is that Floyd stood there and took it like a man. Most fighters would of been down and out after that flurry.
I stopped reading, right there.
You're dumb as shit. First off Mosley hurting Mayweather was not that surprising. If you know anything about the sport you would know power is the LAST thing to leave a fighter with age. Also, Shane iced his last opponent, who by most had been said to have the toughest chin in the sport. Secondly, most people with a brain were picking Floyd to beat Pac even before this fight. Counterpunching is always the key to Floyds game and always been the weakness in Pacs game. Get the fuck off these boards, dumbass.
If YOU knew anything about boxing, you would know that Margarito was nothing but a punching bag, that night, without his plaster. And that Mosley was not the same version he was in his prime that was like.. uhh.. 8-10 years ago?
Here, you might need this.. :bottle:
Its time for Manny to man up an take the drug test an get outclassed by Floyd.
No, it's time for Floyd to man up and stop ducking Pacquiao with his "cleaning up the sport" crap. LMAO. Do you think he actually cares about that?
No way, man. 168 is way too high for him. Even 160 is high for him.
His ideal fighting weight is at 154. With Cotto, Angulo, Foreman, Kirkland and others coming up in the division, he can make his name there.
So Mosley beat him then right?
Duh.
He beat nothing but a C level fighter that had an A level mask on.
And judging by your avatar, you're going to disagree with me but not refute the points that I made. Scared?
Whats ur old username. Your an alt stop lying. You just had your karma turned off. So you arent a new poster.
Why don't you answer my points, tough guy? If you're so confident that I'm a troll speaking nonsense, surely you would be able to prove me wrong?
Wraps only provide an edge, its not some magic thing that makes you an unholy terror. Trying to take Mosley's credit away from that win is laughable.
So using a brick-like substance to punch somebody isn't a big advantage? lol..
Hes the P4P Number 3 and the rightful Number 1 WW retard.
Its a GREAT win.
Margarito was P4P number 3 and the number 1 welterweight, before the Mosley fight. When that fighter gets beaten, the person who beats him takes that position.
The reason he lost was because he wasn't able to use his illegal weapons and became nothing but a human punching bag. Mosley was nothing but the first to test it out.
You act like Mosley wasnt on the P4P list at all.
If Floyd wasnt fighting him you wouldnt even be making this thread.
Hes the P4P Number 3. Period. Whether you like it or not. Hes also the rightful Number 1 WW.
Great win.
Baldomir was the #1 welterweight in the world. Was that a great win? No.
I'm not saying that Floyd shouldn't fight Mosley. After all, he is RANKED at the top. But that doesn't mean he's REALLY at the top, anymore.
Look, you probably started watching boxing 2 years ago and only follow the current scene. So you don't know anything about either fighter from their prime days. But any knowledgeable fan could see that even in Mosley's victory over Margarito he was clearly past it.
Good win.
You are a troll. Whats ur old user name so i can look up what you thought about this fight before it was signed.
You are a troll. You havent made any points.
I've made points that destroyed your own. Look back a few pages to where you gave up, if you forgot them.
u can use your fist to break a brick.
haven't you seen that before? The fist is just as hard, if not harder than a brick, with the right training and preparation.
So...
We are just talking about added weight to the punch..an advantage, but not the lion's share of why he was winning
lol.. wth?
Man stop trolling.
No one gave Mosley chance vs. Marg now he was shot.
Stop trolling.
So you don't refuse my points, but call me a troll? That's like admitting defeat, my friend.
TS, out of curiousity who should Floyd have fought if not Mosley? The pac fight wasn't gonna happen. And that isn't all Floyd's fault by any means. Both fighters fukked that shit up.
So who? Berto? Collazo? Bradley?
Oh wait..I know what you gonna say, Williams.
Of course he should've fought Shane, since the Pacquiao fight wasn't made. Because he's RANKED at the top. But please don't try and say that a win over a clearly past it but once great fighter is a "great" win.
If that's the case, then Holmes' victory over Ali is a "great" one, because Ali was still the lineal champ.
It should only be considered "good".
Margarito wasn't just a punching bag... he's was a punching bag that punches back... hard. Cotto knows.
and it wasn't all because of the wraps... dude is heavy handed with a rock hard skull regardless
Cotto knows that Margarito had a something extra in his hands. So does everyone.
Watch and see how good Margarito is, when faces some top opposition again. You'll be shocked.
Did you know he had plaster? Is that Shanes fault?
What was ur prediction on that fight? Whats ur old username because this is a clear alt. This isnt your first time posting here because ur Karma is off noobs dont know how to do that.
Whats ur old username?
In case you can't remember, there was a big ordeal about the wraps before the fight even started. It got out very fast.
It's not Shane's fault that he fought a punching bag. I commend him for beating up the cheater. But don't act like Margarito was some monster that night, because he wasn't. He was degraded to a C level fighter, without his wraps.
Mayweather will win the fight, because Mosley is SHOT.
And I don't know what you're talking about with my username. I registered earlier this morning and this is the only one I have.
Mosley wasn't "clearly passed it" in the fight I saw him in last. I don't know what fight you were watching. Being passed it has little to do with age sometimes and more to do with wear and tear and intangibles like whats going on in the boxer's life. For instance Hopkins still schooled Pavlik in his 40's but RJJ took a long dive off a short pier in his 30's.. And as to whats going on in his life, Mosley says he is in a good place right now.
So, not passed it.. just out skilled this time.
Anyone can look like a beast against a punching bag, like Mosley did.
So you're telling me that the Mosley fighting tonight is the same Mosley that fought DLH in their first fight? Please..
How am I supposed to know that until I see him fight tonight?
But the Mosley I saw against Margarito had heavier hands than the Mosley I saw against DLH. Roided or not.
But DLH wasn't a punching bag, was he?