Let me just say I watched the fight live, and like alot of you..I thought Manny won 10 rounds.
But..I just watched it again with 3D glasses and missed a few rounds (watching hadcore pawn)..I thought Bradley won 8-4. Mind you, I dont have a 3D TV.
The 3rd time I watched it wearing an eye patch at 4x speed. Bradley won by KO.
The 4th time I watched it, I watched in reverse, with Klingon commentary. I witness Bradley absoutley pick apart Manny.
All of you guys are idiots who still think Manny won based on my results that Ive shared with you.
Even though he might be winding down, He still managed Bradley to look silly, using boxing skills rather than pure physical endurance. Something alot of the top contenders at 140 couldnt do.
I had the fight even 114-114 with 4 swing rounds.
Watching it for the first time last night I assumed Pacquiao won atleast 9 rounds but watching it again without HBO's extremely bias commentary/scorecard this was a very close fight.
Pacquiao's workrate was very very low and Bradley outworked and outboxed him half the fight.
For example the first round, apart from the 4 left hands Manny landed at the end of the round Bradley controlled the action. Same with round 2.
People never gave credit to Bradleys counterpunches, headmovement, a constant jab in Manny's face and general control for most of the round.
Manny's legs are gone and it was cringing to watch him just slowly plod towards Bradley, he's basically a slugger now who fights in spurts.
Whether this was attributed to Pacquiaos training camp and Alex's Arizas decision not to train Pacquiao as intensely (because of the leg cramps) or because of old age it showed in the fight bigtime.
Pacquiaos power may have given him the slight edge but alot of his shots never landed, Jim Lampley as usual assumed the punch did land but watch it carefully and you'll see alot of them didnt.
I implore you to watch it again without sound, and score it round by round. You'll be amazed how inactive Pacquiao was and how he got countered alot with quick hooks, hes merely a shadow of his former self.
Add this to the fact that Bradley was practically immobilised because of two injured feet it doesnt look good for Pacquiao in the rematch.
The only head movement I saw was his head getting knocked back. Thats one thing about Bradley, he doesnt move his head. If he does, it's from getting rocked from or a punch, or he's getting truned and his eyes are away from the opponent. Thats why he's not really considered "slick".
If you count bradley punching mannys forearms and gloves as staying busy, then yes, he was busy. But that shouldnt win you rounds.
"he's too fast, looks like roids rage, needs to be tested"
"doesnt throw enough power, makes too much noises, a fake...a media creation"
Too many conflicting opinions by his haters. One day they have to make up their mind so they could prevent themselves from sounding so ignorant
So lets get this straight, everyone is in agreement that the thread title is misleading. This video doesnt show Bradley winning the fight, its about the commentators being biased. Madden was especially biased during Favre games, so this is nothing new, also every commentator loved Jordan. It happens, this is sports. I hope someone else can make a 15 min video clip proving the moon exists.
We've all seen that poorly made 1 sided video.
No where in that video did it show that Bradley put together a string of a good offensive output. Even in slow motion and freezeframes it clearly displayed that most of Bradley punches were either blocked, hit elbows and gloves, or barely landing.
You'd think with a 15 minute long highlight clip you'd see a series of quality combos from Bradley, but there were simply none.
I'm not talking about the jaw. I'm talking about the whole quitting thing. I'm starting to feel that once a fighter gets up to the peak and fights the top guy, they feel like they won't ever get to that point anymore. So they don't try as hard.
Your post makes zero sense. Ortiz didnt quit against floyd. and he has quit before, against Maidana.
And....dont give floyd credit for everything. He's in jail right now and some how he gets credit for lopez breaking his jaw? Its kinda pathetic thinking
TS is an idiot. how can say that this video was a proof that Bradley won? There even no Pac highlights on the video.
How about watching this?
nice.
Notice Bradleys head snapping back at those shots. See that Bradley fans? this isnt amateur boxing, thats how a real punch connects. Not the lame pitty pat flicker jabs was touching Mannys gloves and elbows all night.
Real punches landed > air jabs
Rocky music > HBO commentary
Watch this...I think those judges should too....they must not have seen the reality of what was going on in the ring because the fighters were too fast for their old, feeble eyes. Maybe they should eat more carrots or update their bifocals because with their eyesight, I'm pretty sure they shouldn't even be driving at this point.
I liked min 9-12, where we saw the most brilliant offensive display ever. Did you see those brutal, devastating, feathered jabs by Bradley? Manny was almost helpless and he was almost KO'd.
At 12:33 "Bradley landed 4 punches!", arguably the best output of Bradley in the night, and probably the longest combo landed by him. He absolutely destroyed Mannys forearms and Gloves in that combo, just bloody brilliant of him. Mannys lucky his arms didnt just break off after that furious flurry.
1226: The perfect punch. The jab doesnt necessarily reach Mannys face, but grazes Mannys glove just enough to be illustrated as perfection.
After viewing this video, Im convinced Bradley won all 14 rounds.
yes, but did they watch the fight with 3D glasses and the sound off? this sounds suspicious to me.
I rewatched the fight wearing a blindfold with Bradley and his father's commentary. Clearly Bradley won, you know...
They try so hard to discredit Bradley's little punches, but completely forget to note that Pacquiao couldn't even wobble Bradley, an injured Bradley on one working leg. That's even worse. Pacquiao did not land anything of relevance on Bradley.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/XXXshogunXXX/paq4l1c9q.gif
chicken dance... rolled on his own foot after Manny made him buckle.
Now its your turn to show a gif of Bradley throwing a bone crunching jab to Mannys elbow
I saw the fight in real time, what I saw was the HBO commentates not giving credit to the punches that Bradley landed, when it was obvious.
For example in the last 25 seconds in he 6th round. Bradley landed two body shots, an uppercut, and a left hook in the 12 second mark that snaps Pacqiao's head back. I gave that round to Bradley because of the last 25 seconds.
This video coudlnt even give credit to Bradleys punches, in SLOW TIME. what makes you think Lampley could in real time?
and why wasnt your 6th round flurry in the video? because he probably hit more elbow and glove again. If you can point it out in your little cute vid, then id like to see it.
The creator freeze framed some other phantom **** that Bradley "supposedly" landed, but cant cut out the ultimate highlight you were referring to?
Also in that round, and many others... did you discount Manny landing more blows that actually hurt Bradley, probably.
Can you also address those points I made earlier in 12:25 and 12:34? why is the creator showing clips of Bradley hitting glove and blocked shots. Isnt this video supposed to be In Bradleys favor, yet he's making the case that Bradley couldnt put together a decent offensive exchange
The video doesn't show everything obviously, you have to watch the rounds for yourself. Starting :25 seconds watch the 6th round again, and tell me Bradley did not land any of the punches cleanly.
Is that really all you have? you want me to go back to a certain round, and look a a few seconds of film, just so you can feel better about yourself. If you have to resort to moments like these to prove Bradley won....then its not happening.
i can just tell you certain points to prove Manny did more damage. Such as Bradley doing the chicken dance in round 5 after Manny lands a few blows. See how easy that is compared to, "hey watch round 6 in slow motion, starting at 1:31-1:33! Bradley just owns!"
Why are you making **** up? If Bradley lands a clean punch what does it matter if Bradley doesn't hit as hard as Pacquiao? A landed punch is a landed punch and you're a dumb ass if you don't think Bradley doesn't have any power. Going by your logic I guess Winky should have lost to Mosley because Mosely hits harder.
I don't score a round for Pacquiao when he throws a flurry and hardly lands anything. Just because Bradley moves back or he slips a punch doesn't mean Pacquiao is winning. The fact that Bradley was winning round 12 just proves he was EFFECTIVELY blocking many of Pacquiao punches.
Why're you so mad? Clean punches count, if they were CLEAN. I dont count 12:25 as clean.
Jabs barely landing shoudlnt count as clean either. Your video is terrible in pointing out that Bradley did anything, and you know it.
lol @ those missed pitty pat punches by Pac. He really is on the decline.
Bradley landed the same thing, can't bother to find a gif, if you had seen the fight you'd know.
...And NEW
pittypat? look at the punch the jab that rocks Bradleys head back...and the hook that Manny lands to Bradleys trap that forces him to buckle and fall forward. We saw that **** in real time, you cant even find anything in slow motion where Bradley does the same. haha.
And didnt you call this fight a robbery immediately after the fight? slow motion you tube videos helping you out now? son?
This video was spot on many of the rounds, just like I thought. In 2:22 of the third round, Lampley claims Pacquiao landed a left hand, he did not (as a matter fact the punch hit nothing but air). In the :37 second mark, Pacquiao threw two left hands, none of them landed. The first punch actually landed on Bradley's gloves, the second punch completely missed. Watch that round again.
You can go through thousands of fights and point out the same.
Is there a highlight video not in slow motion of Bradleys highlights that shows him dealing damage to Manny? and not this pittypat, flicker jabs that "mightve" landed type ****.
Even in slow motion, Bradley is barely landing anything. Its almost a joke. You can literally count the jabs that are even "questionable"
The rest of us dont have to resort to slow motion youtube videos to form an opinion of the fight, everyone else saw that **** in real time.
I'm just trying to provide proof. Your argument was that many of punches that Bradley threw landed on Pacquiao's elbows, that is completely not true.
It is true. Watch 12:25. In your own video, the creator is trying to find obvious moments of Bradley landing punches. But in this freeze frame, he ISNT. Not even in freeze frame, or slow motion.
There was no point in the fight where you can see Bradley actually hurting Manny, becasue it simply doesnt exist. All we have is flicker jabs that are Bradley grazing elbows and gloves. Your own video even points this out. Its embarrassing.
Pacquiao won round 5 convincingly. I gave Bradley rounds 1, 3, 6, 7, 10-12. That is seven rounds to five for Bradley.
Dont care, I can understand why you gave all those rounds to him. Every flickerjab that Bradley landed was a death dealing KO to you, blocked or not.
And Im willing to bet most rounds you saw were portions from a slow motion youtube video.
This is a good video to show how inept the bradley supports are.
1 example. 12:25. They freeze frame Bradley landing a piss poor jab that looks like its grazing mannys head, and definitely hitting more glove than anything. But since Bradley rarely lands **** in the fight, they have to resort to freeze frames like this in an attempt to mislead the viewers who watched the fight in real time.
Another example, 12:34. "Bradley landed 4 punches!"
The author gets an undeserved orgasm over Bradley landing 4 punches to Mannys forearms and gloves. We watched in real time Manny landing more devastating blows that didnt require the need for slow motion, Bradleys reaction to the punches were enough. Normally videos made with this microscope style of highlights can pinpoint more obvious highlights, but since there are none, it has to settle for reaching. Reaching very bad.
This punch is perfect....the epitome of precision, never saw this one on HBO replays and didn't remember hearing HBO comment about it either. :nonono:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=120097&dateline=1339729223
Id have to see it coming in, if his elbow is alread there, then that is what you call a blocked, or partially blocked punch. I dont see how that can be called perfect. In fact, that is very far from perfect.
Did you know both gifs you posted where highlighted by HBO and its not real time in fight
You and your phantom punches. "those punches didnt happen because HBO commmentators are liars"
i love how hbo ignored & showed none of bradleys highlights (not one single highlight of bradley)...........the only highlights were pac ether missing, or landing that 1 single shot out of 40 thrown.
joke.............
Yeah I hate how people refuse to post these gifs of Bradley obliterating Manny's forearms and gloves. Must be Arum running **** again
look at his right ankle stan
so that was a phanton punch then? cool. Just checking. You must have watched it at a slower speed than that gif to identify that.
you saw a whole lot of nothing because Manny did land **** in that gif
is that so. So when Tim's knees buckled when Manny landed a shot to his trap while Bradley was trying to duck under, that was a smoke and mirrors punch?
Show me a gif of Bradley landing anything signifigant. Punching forearms and gloves dont count.
Lol Clottey covered up the whole time.
Well the way a face looks is Pac fans way of saying Pac beat Marquez in their 3rd fight.
Move on Bradley is the WBO champ , Pac is not
I never said that, the way the face looks is what YOU SAID, you also used it to determine who won the fight and how many punches were landed. Dont blame anyone else for what you said. Yes, Bradley has the WBO belt, we know the story.
No one is saying Manny didn't land on Tim what we are saying is he didn't land near 250 punches. That's all
Im glad you took time out of your busy schedule to watch it in slow speed to convince yourself Manny didnt win. what was the punch count watching it in 3D slow motion btw? just curious what the actual numbers were.
I'm just comparing all other recent opponents faces too Bradley's.
There really is no argument here. Bradley won and I have the judges to back me. Which are the only 3 people who matter.
Funny how Judges were good enough and were defended for Pac - Marquez 3
Apparently this is the new method of judging fights.