Yildrim gets hit clean too much. He might not be soft enough or Eubank Jr punch hard enough to stop him, but it'll be extremely hard to steal this fight with how many rounds I expect Eubank Jr to win clear as day. That said I don't see much value in betting Eubank Jr at -700 or whatever that line is at now nor am I all that confident in Eubank Jr winning by a KO or decision. Maybe a last 3 or 4 round KO prop plus a unanimous decision prop to hedge outcomes might make sense if the odds are right.
Definitely with you on Crolla winning and most likely by decision and already got some parlay pending on that outcome.
Eubank might not have the best power at 168, but he's accurate AF with those uppercuts on the inside. I could see them stopping the fight on accumulative damage in later rounds. I'll probably put a few units on 7-12 KO if the odds are right.
Both Crolla and Burns are past their primes, but Burns is SHOT. He hung in there with Indongo, but who was Indongo really? Watch Burns fight against Kiryl Relikh (who gave Barthelemy a helluva fight and nearly got him out of there in the 5th). Burns looked bad early and late in that fight, but he's a crafty dude and did enough in the middle rounds to edge it. I think Crolla stops him or makes him look REALLY bad and retires him.
I'm also eagerly awaiting odds at the major sportsbooks for the three Showtime junior middleweight title fights on Saturday. I will look hard at Lubin when he opens at + money and the same for Trout at what I expect will be moderate underdog odds. Lara as a favorite too if it's under -300.
Nice, I will be keeping an eye out for you post here. I'm hoping we get some good odds for Trout, as well. He was really competitive with Jermall his last time out and Hurd seems like a pretty basic come forward guy who imposes his massive size on smaller opponents. Gausha looks pretty good, but this is a huge step up in competition and can't see him outboxing Lara. -300 and under would be an absolute steal.
Zhanat Zhakiyanov (+270) vs Ryan Burnett $100.00 for $270.00
Jack Catterall (-161) vs Tyrone Nurse ~$360.00 for ~$223.60
Jack Catterall/Tyrone Nurse Draw (+2000) ~$30.00 for ~$600.00
Just curious, what are your unit increments? A hundo?
Also, PM'ed you for Discord link
I don't like the charlo bet.
regards to trout, he was battling depression and has been inactive and this fight has been pushed back a lot so hes had a long camp . lot of factors working against him but ill look at his fight vs jermall and hurd vs Harrison to see if the styles and skills gap is great enough to warrant bettin on him
Lubin has a questionable chin. Got dropped hard a few years ago against feather-fisted nobody. Skills-wise it's close, but I'm thinking we could see another Jrock-Jermall outcome. Also, Jermell's been getting good work in with Spence, probably the best sparring you can get to prepare for a southpaw with amateur pedigree.
Didn't know that about Trout, actually, and it does concern me a bit. Trout did have a good fight against Charlo, but Jermall boxes way more than Hurd does, so maybe that gave the old veteran spots to shine. Hurd is pretty flat-footed, can't box very well, but he knows it. Kind of reminds me of a young Margarito. So maybe the constant pressure of Hurd will eventually break Trout, even if Hurd loses every round until he gets the stoppage. Anyway, odds shot up to +215 for Trout, so massive value IMO. Probably will hedge with late KO by Hurd.
I threw some money on Brant when the odds were still pickem-ish, but honestly I got no faith in the outcome of that fight. Braehmer is old and accomplished + coming down in weight, Brant is young and unknown + going up in weight.
This is a classic stay away from fight, but sometimes I'm apt to bet for sh^ts n giggles.
F*ck it I'm gonna take the hit with the juice and go in on Brant to make things interesting, but you're right this is a toss-up. Not confident in KO anymore with Braehmer's size advantage and tested chin
That seems like a common issue for PBC fights for some reason or thats a trend I feel like I've been seeing. I've been seeing a line for at least a couple weeks for the 115lb (-1300) Khalid Yafai vs (+800) Sho Ishida seemingly uncompetitive fight thats still 2 weeks & change away, but somehow there isn't a line for all these top 154lb guys that fight in 3 days where two of them feel like they could be close to pick em fights. Weird.
Didn't know it was a PBC thing. Can't be all of them though because Broner Garcia odds was out months before the fight.
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Without having looked into it much, they will have charlo as favourite, around 4/6. Lubin around 6/5. I wouldnt be surprised if they have charlo as bigger fav
Lara big fav vs gausha, probably 1/6 . Gausha probably 4/1
Hurd trout probably 50-50
Yup, that sounds about right. Just hate doing research on fighters without knowing the odds I'm trying to beat. Much easier to say if a fighter is over- or under-valued than coming up with an actual number
lol this is not lookin good for my ritson barret bet, knew i should have jus reversed my bet and taken a small loss on the cash out
Your draw and distance prop for Eggington fight are looking golden right now.
lol yea I said should hedge the play with charlo ko but I didn't, got greedy , serves me right and theres 25% of the ryder winnings deservedly down drain for getting greedy lol
Still had a helluva day bro. Thanks for the Trout tip, definitely made me second guess that and hedge with hurd ko. Respect
i dont see how charlo can beat lubin via decision, if you like charlo to win, would go charlo by ko
tbh I don't see the once-in-a-generation boxing skills everyone is raving about in Lubin. He seems like he's got good power and finishing instincts, but seems a little flat-footed and small for SMW.
I'm going against NSB consensus and jumping on Charlo at -125 with a small play on KO, as well.
Picked Jurgen in the end. World champion pedigree vs someone that's never been over 10 rounds. I was just worried Brant would get KO'D. Next rounds in this tourney should be interesting.
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Even hedged it inplay to cover my stake.
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Nice hit! It was either going to be stay away or Brant for me, and I would have been really pissed if Brant won and I hadn't bet. IMO Jurgen had a massive exp advantage, which was well-known going in, but he really just out-classed Brant from a physical perspective as well. Higher volume, harder punches, great stamina, and hand speed disparity was hardly noticeable. Did not expect all of those things would break in favor of the 39 yo moving down in weight. Braehmer surprised me tonight more than Brant let me down. In fact, he's proven he's got a great chin at 168, and should be able to handle most 160 lbers' power.
Agreed, next round is gonna be LIT
Changed my mind, I switched to Liam Smith:
Liam Smith (+106) vs Liam Williams ~$560.00 for ~$593.60
Liam Williams (-105) vs Liam Smith $315.00 for $300.00
Liam Smith/Liam Williams Draw (+2200) ~$35.00 for ~$770.00
Nice I went with Smith last minute as well BOL
So we have Andre Ward in the red corner and Skelator in the blue.
Probably the most interesting fight of the tournament so far. I remember Jurgens arm but then you have the Danny Williams & Isaac Chamberlains of this World. Definitely a clue to Jurgens mental state that he didn't come out however dislocations are excruciating.
Yeah, this and the Breidis-Perez fight have/had a lot of pre-fight intrigue because weight and time off are huge X factors.
Wouldn't personally know how dislocations feel, but yeah fighters react differently to injuries. He probably could have fought a few more rounds with one hand and maybe eeked out a decision (it was Germany for Christ's sake), but he didn't want to get beat up while he knew he was less than 100%, tells me he would probably fold if he got into a bad situation.
Damn, the more I think of this fight the more I kick myself for not jumping on Brant early..
ZZ is a buzzsaw, but Burnett's holding his own with great inside and body work.
Had Burnett in this one at dumb odds -300 so hopefully he pulls through
I am very certain Whyte finishes whatever's left of Helenius, but I'm hesitant at the current odds (-500). There's so much $$$ to be made in a Whyte-AJ rematch that Hearn wouldn't put Whyte in there if he saw Helenius still posed a major threat. Helenius was training with AJ and I'm sure Hearn saw something he liked in there
The odds are out...
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Without having looked into it much, they will have charlo as favourite, around 4/6. Lubin around 6/5. I wouldnt be surprised if they have charlo as bigger fav
Lara big fav vs gausha, probably 1/6 . Gausha probably 4/1
Hurd trout probably 50-50
Spot on for the Charlo-Lubin odds!
We got great odds for Trout and Guasha, but probably will stay away from latter.
Anthony Joshua/Carlos Takam Over 4½ (-110) $110.00 for $100.00
Carlos Takam corner to throw in towel (+2400) ~$18.00 for ~$432.00
Dillian Whyte/Robert Helenius Under 9½ (-110) $82.50 for $75.00
Dillian Whyte wins by KO/TKO/DQ (-145) vs Robert Helenius ~$150.00 for ~$103.45
Dillian Whyte wins in round 1-3 (+750) vs Robert Helenius ~$18.00 for ~$135.00
Frank Buglioni wins by KO/TKO/DQ (-185) vs Craig Richards ~$150.00 for ~$81.08
Virtually the same bets I do for whyte and AJ. BOL
Did anyone catch Eubank Jr. to win WBSS at 2.75 to 1? I threw a few units at that thinking it was insane value. Does anyone know why he was priced so low?
George Groves looks to be sliding a bit, and may have lost a bit of fire after he beat that German dude into a coma. Callum Smith was the only one I could see giving Junior any problems, but he looked lackluster against Skoglund.
Jesse Hart (+300) vs Gilberto Ramirez $100.00 for $300.00
Jesse Hart wins inside distance (+509) $20.00 for $101.80
Jesse Hart/Gilberto Ramirez does not go distance (+130) ~$115.20 for for ~$149.76
Jorge Linares (-350) vs Luke Campbell $1400.00 for $400.00
Woah, underdog bettor going heavy on a favorite? I like that we are both on the same side of this one, but care to share thoughts?
He's pulled out. I don't know the exact reason but it must relate to him not fighting for a whole year. The odds drifted so money was coming in on Calum.
Rob Brant has become the betting favourite for his fight vs Jurgen at 4/6. Either the bookies know something or they're are laying the trap for the casual market. Gonna stay well clear of that fight.
Not necessarily a trap. What do you think is wrong with the price? Should Jurgen be the favorite?
whyte is overrated , but whyte tad bit better than helenius, whyte stamina will make him score a late ko or if loads of clinching take an ugly ud
lads what you reckon , whyte by ko or ud? mlac
I have Whyte by late KO due to an out of shape Helenius gassing after 4 rounds. I rate Whyte as 2nd tier heavy obviously, but I think Hearn/AJ/Whyte know what Helenius has left and Eddie feels comfortable throwing Whyte in there with him.
I missed the opener with Trout at +200, but despite his power, I don't know how anyone can be confident in Hurd after seeing him drop eight rounds in a row or so to Harrision last time before Harrison tired and got caught. I was on Hurd and Hurd KO last time and it worked out, but those rounds were all one way until it suddenly turned around. I don't think it's wise at this level for Hurd to count on coming from way behind and his power to win fights. Geez, one hundred dollar limit right now, thanks 5Dimes. $100.00 on Trout at +170.
I don't even think any US books opened it at +200. I know a few UK ones did.. smh
Just a small play on Trout at +165, but will put some more if line moves.
I think Lubin's too green to handle Charlo. It's dropped since the lines opened and IMO -140 is great value for Charlo. Thoughts before I hammer this?
fk yes, big win for me man, my personal scorecard going into 12th was 8-3 mimoune, but my prediction for corrupt judges scorecards was 6-5 egg, decided not to cash out at 50% of profits at 11th round and proved to be right decision.
Congrats! Yup, I had it pretty wide for mimoune going into the 11th. But, with the hometown cooking I knew it would be close
Idk what gets some fights listed on more sports books than other fights that are bigger, but I'd assume there to be some rhyme or reason why a 115lb fight gets listed early vs 3 fights of similar competitiveness if not more competitiveness at 154lb don't get listed with 3 days til the fight.
Maybe Americans aren't avid enough bettors as the UK fans as I always see UK fights or fights of importance to UK fans or promoted by UK promoters listed earlier than the average similar US fights. In particular Matchroom Boxing fights which that 115lb fight is. I mean I'm seeing lines on that next Natasha Jonas (2-0) fight in 2 days & I've been seeing that line.
Yeah, that makes sense because Kal is a UK boxer.
Vegas hasnt set the odds yet
I wonder why? Usually when the big names fight, the odds are usually set soon after the fights are announced, no? Hope this doesn't mean the lines will be super sharp because I can see some upsets coming..
Big bets on Lomachenko moneyline @ -315 (surprisingly bodog had the best odds).
Props on Loma decision, over, and late stoppage
Great little man vs great big man, I see chess match until rounds 6-7 then Loma pulling away to finish.
Following a tip based on a strong lean on this bout today in the UK.
Sam Sexton (-128) vs Gary Cornish ~$870.00 for ~$679.69
Sam Sexton/Gary Cornish Draw (+2500) ~$43.50 for ~$1087.50
Nice hit! You said something similar prior to Christian Hammer vs David Price bet that I tailed. You know UK boxers, for sure.