Good to hear.
More network fights are definitely good for the sport.
I just hope that the "championship-level fights" are actually good competitive bouts featuring top level guys, and not just a belt holder beating up some TBA opponent.
Amazing resume. obviously people will chime in and say "they weren't prime" - well i'd imagine it's logistically impossible to fight everyone at their peak.
Not to mention Floyd wasn't exactly prime during most of that run either.
This.
Imo, Floyd's prime ended with the Hatton fight.
Everything after that was just a testament to how his style, his craft, and his dedication to high-level training and conditioning made him one of the best of all time, even after his physical prime was over.
Crawford going to welter is another good example.
Let's say he looks lackluster for a couple of fights and then gets beaten by a bigger fighter, but then goes back to 140 and dominates...
Is his place on the p4p determined by his fights at welter, or by his fights at 135 and 140?
Pretty fair post.
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Good post.
It will be interesting to see what kind of mental gymnastics go on if GGG wins, especially convincingly, among these cheerleaders.
Not hard to prognosticate...
"He was always gonna win."
"Canelo was overrated. He lost to Floyd, doe."
"Canelo is actually a SWW." lol
"Gennady should move up to LHW and fight Ward, otherwise he's an overhyped bum with no skill."
why are we making excuses for boxers who just are not talented enough when fighters in the past did far more and succeeded?
Because weight classes are a thing?
Gennady beating Floyd at 154 (a division where Floyd was the man at one point) wouldn't mean that Golovkin was a better fighter p4p, because that's not May's ideal weight.
Same with Charlo. If he is a beast at 154, but gets obliterated at MW, and goes back to SWW, is his p4p rank only affected by his body of work at his ideal weight.
Prime vs past-prime is kind of the same way.
A prime Tyson would have possibly killed a past prime Ali in the ring, but that doesn't mean he's higher on an ATG list.
Sure he was...
That's why he was dropped on his ass in the 4th, also why he dropped to his knees and held the ropes after the final bell...
And he was left looking like this after the battle as well:
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/smith-hitch.png
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Nice...
But tbh, I do hope he gives Jacobs a rematch in the near future to silence the doubters. It was a good scrap, and Jacobs came to do battle.
It's clear that the problem is you not understanding the definition of the word 'talent' in relation to boxing. Talent is not synonymous with victory.
I really don't have any more time to waste arguing with someone who doesn't understand what "Styles make fights" means. This is really basic stuff and you gotta have a grasp on it before you go running your mouth.
"Hit and don't get hit" can only go so far if you don't have power, stamina, chin, work ethic in the gym, psychological toughness, and a host of other intangibles. I equate some of these factors as talent.
Raw "talent", however your dumb ass defines it, doesn't always equal the best boxer.
Same as being the best boxer on the planet doesn't mean you're the best fighter. You will quickly be destroyed by a well-rounded MMA practitioner literally anywhere other than a boxing ring.
But in the end, styles won't matter in this fight, since Loma is the more talented fighter.
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Fvck im only 4 beers in
Take your time guys im not drunk enough for this to start
Chug!! Chug!! Chug!! Chug Chug!! Chug!!
I had to step on the gas about three beers ago.
This is why boxing fans are the worst in the world.
How about showing some respect for an inactive 37yr old moving up two weight classes and daring to be great? Should take a leaf out of Loma's book and have some class. And you wonder why fighters don't take risks these days seriously?
Granted it was a sch1t performance but jeez have some class about you man.
I feel you dude, but there's been way too much shít talk on this site lately about how Rigo too skilled, Loma's a hypejob, whateverthafck.
Blame those guys for shítting on Loma and acting like Rigo was gonna school him.
You're either illiterate, stupid, or a blend of both. Just because one guy is more talented doesn't mean the other can't win based on styles. Are you aware that Salido beat Loma? By your logic, Salido is more talented than Loma.
Now STUF, listen more, and try learning about this shyt.
Salido didn't win because of his style. Did you watch the fight?
If one boxer beats another boxer decisively, then at that point in time, he is the better, more talented fighter.
Slickness, defense, whatever the fùck, doesn't equate to being a more talented fighter. Slicker? Sure. Better defense? Sure. But there are many other dimensions.
Try to learn about this shít...