That comes back to the title of the thread genius or devil? For manny he has been extraordinary and i'm sure that is all he judges his performance on. But sometimes when you are the best you have the onus on you to not only look after yourself but look after the sport and i'm not sure Roach is doing that. You guys might say who cares, but i think this issue is bigger than an anti pacman or pro pacman arguement here. Saturday was supposedly the biggest fight of the year (argueably) and it was a woeful spectacle. If i was new to boxing and bought the PPV i wouldnt be rushing back to buy another.