bivol said he would go down to 168 to fight canelo, he also said he was 185 fight night v canelo
the reason noone can supply proofs of these guys ring weights presently is that for some odd reason noone knows anymore now that hbo have gone and we just have leaks every now and then, everything else is pure speculation, for example noone knows for sure what canelos ring weight is, probably 180 - 185 region but it would be great to know this stuff to put an end to canelo butt sniffers telling us hes tiny at every weight class hes in for a starters anyway
Your opinion is transparent and correct, but if you’re an athlete and practitioner or former gym rat then one would assess the eye test. For example, in boxing, “drained” COULD be synonymous to an average of 20lbs. However some of the newest talents or none new can endure a 25lb weight cut. This was so bad in the UFC (with some fighters on average doing up to 30lbs with lowkey PEDS that snitches were leaking info) that its regulations had to change.
David Benavidez recently said himself, and props for him for admitting it, but he literally said he’s 195lbs on fight night after Gvozdyk. I promise u said this in an interview and David is a sincere guy. What are we to believe that he was referring strictly to 168 or 175? At the end of the day it’s still 20lbs he’s cutting on fight week to hit the scales. So if he’s 195lbs against a Gvozdyk or Morrell then his walk around weight is EASILY and at least 220lbs. He has countless videos looking bloated with love handles, hitting a bag on the off season. Sampson Lewkotwitz just disclosed that Keyshawn was planning to rehydrate 25lbs against De Los Santos. Why would Sampson say that or know this?! Ding ding ding, he’s David’s Promoter. He knows exactly about weight cuts. It was said that David vs Roamer Angulo he was 171lbs and he lost his belt. That’s a 3lb advantage from 168. Keyshawn was 4lbs. Where’s the uproar for comparison? U also know Sulaiman said Haney was rehydrating 25lbs on fight night against Lomachenko.
fans need to accept that many still 25lbs rehydrations. That’s the point why sometimes there are morning weigh in limits…
Any doubt about the eye test then do the basics in looking at the fighter on the weigh in to fight night. If cheek bones are protruding, eye sockets sunken in, waist and abs extremely cut, all while the boxer rehydrates softer in tone then one can assume they’ve accomplished an average 15-25lbs cut. I’m actually envious of this sweet science because it’s also enduring the pain to make drastic weight cuts. Some industry people are against this because the fighter is doing more harm than good.
so you mentioned Canelo. Let me again mention Bud and Canelo. Bud’s weigh in with Madrimov didn’t look drastically different on fight night. It means Bud’s moreso touching his peak or ideal weight class. Therefore Bud isn’t doing the traditional Top Rank weight cuts just to push a show as he was doing at 135. Same goes with Canelo. Canelo at 168 looking nothing like the 152-160 weigh ins. When Canelo fought Kovalev or Bivol the Mexican looked practically the same on fight night, but we can assume Canelo at least hydrated 8-10lbs. So Canelo was probably 185lbs tops. Bivol’s physically is drastically bigger than Canelo. At the very least 8lbs. Put Canelo next to Beterbiev and you’ll also see that the Russian is bigger. Some fans don’t like to accept that stars such as Bivol and Beterbiev do 15lb+ weight cuts. It’s ok! There’s no industry person nor narrative that said Canelo was bigger than Bivol or that Bivol was bigger than Beterbiev. The eye test don’t lie.
when was he given a pass? Canelo fans still use it as justification for canelo ducking him even though 4 years passed and he didn't miss weight again
What does Canelo have to do with this? Did the Mexican lose a belt on the scale?
I dont know what this means but I do concur that Bivol would beat spence
I know that modern day boxing wants to do a SRL vs LaLonde. But even SRL was taller than Bud... I just feel that with all this dark money being given to American or UK stars that it's possible that Bud's team have been showing false scales. 186lbs on a scale and seeing Crawford as of late in the gym it looks like total bullshet tbh. Bud has almost no body fat. I think Team Crawford want to help hype the fight with these false justifications
You got that wrong, the "beast before bivol", said and I'm quote "I'll never fight another mexican", this when he arrived at the 168 division, who was at the top then? David Benavidez, and he wasn't even mexican, once he lost the belt ginger set his sight on unifying the division, then he lost his balls. He could have fought Benavidez and didn't, then when asked why his excuse was, he's too big, I want 200m, and to add insult to injury, he fought a real Mexican. There's no excuse.
There were already reports, articles of Canelo saying he wasn't going to fight another Mexican after Julio Cesar Chavez fallout. It was even rumoured in the dark streets by DLH that Canelo's family and acquaintances had death threats. Chavez Sr. knew cartels before hand, particular the Sinaloa cartel (which is where he is from) and it is said he knew El Chapo. In fact Mexican reporters were asking Chavez about Chapo when he got captured and he declined to comment. So as you know, eventually Canelo's brother was kidnapped for ransom during the Fielding week fight and Canelo had to do a settlement behind the scenes for his brother's release. In that particular week Canelo wasn't even happy all fight week for good reason nor did he care about the Fielding aftermath. he just had a stone cold face. And regarding the mocker of 200m. Crawford is said to get 75mil for Canelo and Canelo will be getting 150m for Crawford. That is exactly what Canelo released to the press in a joking matter. A year later he joins forces with Turki and fights a 4 fight deal. Mannix disclosed that Canelo got about 80mil for Scull. The money is real. Canelo easily get another 150mil payday for Benavidez AT LEAST.
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Cmon you know the game. That’s in 2017. For better context for those mentioned, Bud was fighting Felix Diaz at 140 and walking around the same like 2 years ago. Bivol wasn’t as heavy in 2017 as today, such as walk around and rehydration. U know it gets harder as they age
I mean thats just false, u are saying bivol is 190 and benny is 195, benny said himself that he was 189 fight night v gvozdyk not sure where u are getting your info from
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/40361101/david-benavidez-cruises-oleksandr-gvozdyk-wants-canelo
I mainly follow the Boxing Voice, Pro Box TV, Fight Hype. There is so much content on YouTube that’s really the place to cite and source verbatim. David said he is 195 on fight night. These were recent. I think the questions asked towards him were regarding staying at 175 or fighting Ramirez. If I find it for you will you be surprised or it means nothing?
Mind showing where people actually "praised" Benavidez for coming in overweight? You're definitely full of **** on that. Keyshawn was the champion too, Quigg wasn't. Keyshawn is getting flack for it and rightfully so.
So if a Champion or non Champion comes in 3lbs over (such as Benavidez vs Angulo) that's not ''cheating?'' Didn't Shakur or Tank do this too? lose belts coming in over the scale. It seems like boxing fans crying about catchweights don't mean fighers weighing more than their opponent on the scale. In theory a catchweight (and if made) is originally agreed upon. weighing more than your opponent isn't ideally agreed upon before hand. lol
fans will eventually learn the hard way that they don't understand what ''cheating'' is.
195 for which fight is he talking about? wheres the link for that then
I will have to find the video for you. It’s on YouTube, but good thing is David doesn’t do a lot videos. Also know that Chavez Sr. said Southpaw Ramirez would be 195 when he fought at 168.
People WERE taking shots at Benavidez for losing his belt twice due to coke and due to missing weight.
Canelo has been ducking him for sure, but Canelo wouldn't have been able to duck him and still be undisputed if Benavidez had just held onto that WBC belt. He had two chances and he fumbled them both and that's why he never got the Canelo payday. After he lost the belt he had no leverage and Canelo wasn't gonna take the risk.
So Benavidez inarguably set his career back significantly with his immature shenanigans.
Davis did the same, except he also attacked his brother's opponent in his dressing room after the fight. That's completely unacceptable.
I forgot about the Albright incident because I felt that too was exaggerated and a smear campaign. I couldn’t find any video source of actual blows. Just a hallway altercation crowded by instigators
Quite funny when Canelo was expressing interest in fighting Usyk.
Bivol brought Canelo back to reality.
This is an exaggeration. Bivol wouldve beaten Badou Jack or Makabu at Cruiser even when Reynoso had mentioned it. Fans cried that Makabu was a Cherry Pick and fans laughed when Badou Jack disclosed that Canelo wanted a rehydration clause for a Cruiser fight. The point is money talks and lots of fighters will bend a knee like a taking a count. At least the Mexican made it known that he wanted to go up to Cruiser. Didn't Thomas Hearns hit Cruiser as well? We know James Toney and Roy went even further. And Bivol is expected to go to Cruiser anyways. He will outpoint Zurdo again. Most fans don't realize that Bivol cuts a lot to be at LHW, but in some off season vids Bivol is HUGE and 200lbs. Check out his mountain training vids. He way bigger than his LHW physique.
I would just love to see Crawford fighting Bivol at 175.
From the eye test Bivol looks too big if you put them side by side. The speed would be drastically different. Bivol’s physique compliments the speed and power.
Disagree, the skill gap is wider
Canelo is a totally basic fighter these days, plods forward and bowls the right hand over if he can get their back touching the ropes. That's literally all he does.
He's so one dimensional now, and Crawford is a more skilled fighter than Usyk.
There’s no such thing as “one dimensional” if Canelo already showed multiple dimensions. Casuals think Canelo’s run at 168-175 has been easy… so what is it? One dimensional just wasn’t good enough for a 175 Bivol? We are talking about the current Undisputed Champ in Bivol couldn’t knock down or hurt Canelo for a kill because one dimensions is difficult?
reality check, Crawford doesn’t hit as hard as Bivol. If anything Bud’s current power is that of Danny Jacobs at 160. Canelo already been in that type of fire. Canelo went defensive slickster against Jacobs too.
So you say Crawford is as big as Bivol. Why doesn`t he fight at 175?
Would anybody put money on Crawford against Bivol?
Bivol rehydrates to 190lbs at LHW. It's said that Beterbiev is about 197lbs.I 'm just curious how much body fat Bud has ever since he posted pics about himself walking around 185lbs. Bud walks around the same for the last 8 years. This isnt the first time Team Crawford disclosed 185lbs. I mean shaving off 40lbs from his walk around weight to his fight night seems very false and most likely malicious. Do fans realize how much of a difference 40lbs is from a gym rat? lol
no he doesnt cut a lot lol
bivol is known for not cutting a lot, u got it backwards
did u not see his fight night weight of 180 from 175 weigh in?? that indicates he not a big cutter of water, he has said that himself and was willing to go to 168 to fight canelo, if he was what u for some reason keep saying he is that would not be possible
everybody at LHW would go to 168 for Canelo. Money talks. Canelo went to 152 for Floyd biggest it was a great payday for the Mexican and they shared PPV with the main lion's share going to Floyd of course. Bivol making 168 would be the same thing as Canelo making 152 for Floyd. Drained.
Turki giving Canelo $80mil for the Scull performance. Surely the Saudi’s don’t care in splurging such purses, but in the “real” (lol) world that amount for that performance is nauseous. Canelo must have been stupid happy
Don't listen to these rumours, they're usually pure fabrication which gets repeated across the internet. Like Tyson's "$30mil" against Jake Paul, for which there is no reliable source.
Really looking forward to this one. Probably Crawford's last ever fight so let's make the most of it.
This is a dark era of prizefighting now that the west have acknowledged Suadi Sportswashing. Sela, owned by the Saudi government through the country’s Public Investment Fund sovereign wealth vehicle, are splurging without consequence, something the Saudi’s like to gamble on and good for them.
Truth be told, this is a new era of Crypto currency and confidentiality. Ideally you’re supposed to report crypto earnings per govt/nation rules, but it’s still untrackable given practical anonymity at secure levels. It’s soooo very easy to give Bitcoins to Canelo, Bud, Fury, Usyk…etc. The Saudi’s like to report big bags, buy at the same time they probably don’t care about earning disclosures from said stars since it’s not their responsibility. Govt.’s can only hassle earners for what’s technically reported (which is always strategized), but they can’t do witch hunts unless they feel treats for national security, and it would be hard to create narratives that terrorist funding could be funneled via crypto per said boxing stars. This is why it’s left alone, at least for now.
new prize fighters have to make a choice on what to keep secret by Saudi “investors.”
It’s insane that Mayweather vs Alvarez happened 12 years ago. In the same year Bud was fighting an Andrey Klimov before becoming a champion against Burns. There’s a significant gap in experience between the two.
Crawford’s main role was to bring Canelo to the Saudi’s while making a huge paycheck. That was the bargain. It’s rumored Crawford will make $75mil for this fight. What type of opponent wouldn’t praise a fight with Canelo if given such a bag. In theory the result will catapult Canelo’s fame to another level by providing Netflix its on demand replay. Canelo’s public domain Free Fight replays already on YouTube have given Netflix confidence with on demand metrics.
Netflix will own this fight for decades while licenses are sold. Perhaps this is what Richard Schaeffer was implying about Saul’s billion dollar mark upcoming.
The Saudi’s really want to make a huge impression to the west by showing their Riyadh Season logo powered by Netflix. Saudi Sportswashing is very very clever.
Most of us are Netflix users. Netflix is the king worldwide for on-demand entertainment, perhaps Amazon Prime next and let's say Disney+ last.... the point is many of us have these apps. The fact that I can just skim Netflix as a ''casual user'' is funny in that I get to watch Terence Crawford and Canelo. lol. The boxing market is drastically changing. New purses for prizefighters might yo-yo in an efficient protocol. The Arabs have a hold of the game atm and we're just watching as good ole boxing fans. I think all of this is for the greater good. and let's be honest, the weight ''disparity'' is a paradox. Canelo could've kept on at 160 but drastically draining like the rest of the new generation do, or rather it's been like that for a long time. There are many boxers to name that moved up in weight such a Hearns or Duran or SRL from a time not so long whom are good examples to cite. I mean Charley Burley was an old school yo-yo GREAT. Point is Crawford going from 135-168 or Canelo from 140-175 is relatively just a weight class apart when averaging the two.
Sampson recently said that Keyshawn rehydrates to 25lbs at least. Such knowledge shows how they were managing David Benavidez at 168 as Chavez Sr. said Benavidez easily blows up to 195 on fight night when he was at 168. When David fought Roamer Angulo he came in at 171lbs and lost his belt. The show still went on. Nobody was worried for Roamer’s health lol.