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So Roach understands Pac can't beat Floyd and is rebuilding himself a fighter that can. Aka someone bigger and with boxing skillls. Roach just needs two more years so Floyd's old and Khan will be ready. Khan will still get that ass koed. pac will still be wondering why Floyd makes more money and bob will still be trying to add more excuses and still be pushing the lawsuit. I hope Bob gets fired. first and foremost thanks for taking out Hamed on your list it makes you look less stupid. But post like this makes you look like real dumba55. Khan is nowhere in manny or floyds level for that matter. he is not even the number one guy in his division. His chin is so weak even you can knocked him out with one swing. And Manny don't think about the money when he fights, let alone thinks about who is making more money than him. He has more money than all of his haters combined. has more honor than anyone in boxing right now. And he is not scared to fight anyone that is put in front of him. As for the lawsuit. Only a simple minded dumba55 like you would not push a lawsuit after your rep been tarnished by an allegation that has no bearing or evidence. pac and floyd's fight will never happen. Because even if manny agrees to all the testing that Floyd wants he will ask for another condition to delay the fight. E.g. the dropping the lawsuit. Then ignorant people like you will then again blame manny for not dropping the lawsuit and not making the fight happen. Floydies will always be Floydies. Floydies will be forever be gurgling Frauds juice and let their intelligent self be forever infatuated by his shaft.

He isn't just asking one guy..... * Mayweather took the test, he is clean, and he got paid * Shane Mosley took the test, he is clean, and he got paid * Victor Ortiz will take the test, he will be clean, and he will get paid * Martinez would take the test, he would be clean, and he would get paid * Williams would take the test, he would be clean, and he would get paid The funniest thing about your post is this..... " TESTING FOR ALL " Dude..... NOBODY IN THE WORLD HAS A PROBLEM WITH HARMLESS BLOOD TESTS Oh, except Manny that is :?!: It is absurd to watch you flapping around all over the place frantically peddling god-knows-which-one of Team Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses, when Pac could simply take the same harmless test that anyone else would take. Which one of Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses did you run with in the end ? This is how ignorant you really are. And dumb as can be. The two people you mentioned who has no problem of taking the test wanted to get paid. Ortiz to get shot at the second best boxer in the world will do anything to get in the ring with him. Even the washed up moseley would do anything. But when the talks about Pac and Fraud really intensified, Fraud started looking for excuses to duck Pac. Why didn't Fraud ask Delahoya or Hatton for testing or JMM. And Martinez and Williams where is you facts. Fraud will never fight MartineZ in the next year. He'll wait until he is old and washed up just like Moseley and DLH. He fought DLH without the test. He fought Hatton without the test. He fought JMM without the test Then when it was Pac and Fraud's time to meet, he asked for the testing. If any boxing fans out there do not see these then you are just as ignorant as LeadupperCut. What happens after that of course Fraud is going to keep asking for testing so that he won't look like he is ducking Pac. then he will keep on fighting up and comer so that all those fighters will agree to his drug testing request. It's a great set up. But only ignorant people like LeadUppercut buys this bull****.

You fkn idiot. All Pac had to do is take the test. The same harmless test that any other clean athlete would take. Right and every boxer in the world is fcuking taking the test right? Dumb Floydie

ummm ... What fighter doesn't want to get paid? Is manny pacquiao fighting for just the honor? In that case he should just refuse his part of the purse in his upcoming fight. Right? Idiot. you are as stupid as your understanding. Pac does not need fraud to make the money he would be making in this fight. He could make the money with other fighters just like fraud can. Fraud is only worried about protecting his "0" nothing else thats why he is scared to fight pac. Idiot second best? When did manny pacquiao become the best? Is it when manny fought dlh after floyd outboxed him? Is it when manny fought hatton after floyd ko'd him? Is it when manny fought cotto after margarito had beaten him bloody? Or was it when he fought joshua clottey who has lost every significant match in his career? No no .. It must be when arum paid texas officials to lift margarito's ban in that state so that he could fight manny for a vacant jrmw belt that neither man was in contention for, right? No? Oh ... I know ... It was when manny fought mosley who has been dominated by floyd and managed a draw in his fight right before he faced manny. that must have been when manny became #1, right? You are an ignorant peasant who is too stupid to be ashamed of himself. when floyd started ducking pac and the whole ww division. Please stop being dumb. It's not worth your intelligence defending fraud name one excuse. Just one. The demand is the same. Usada random testing to the day of the fight. In the beginning they negotiated floyd down to 14 days and then refused it. Now they are begging for the 14 days. it's down to the anytime fraud wants it brother jay. For someone knowledgable as you, you get dumb when it comes to rationalizing this fight or maybe your just a natural idiot. Pac agreed to the day of the fight. Just not with the usada. i'll be waiting for the excuse, peasant. You are desperate and it shows. So this ought to be amusing. Why should floyd fight martinez in the next year? A better question is why didn't pacquiao who claimed to be a 154lbs titlist???? Why did manny immediately vacate the belt? Its because he knew he'd have to defend it. He;; he didn't even fight a legit jrmw. That's because dlh, hatton and marquez didn't come up in weight and then begin start to stand toe to toe with bigger men. Dlh was ko'd for going up to mw and fighting the best. Marquez got beat attempting to do the same thing. Only pacquiao has come up since pairing with roach and has been able to stand in front of ww and quasi jrmw and stand toe to toe. In boxing, that's called bullsh!t. When other boxers have moved up and challenged a bigger fighter, they usually stick and move. Their power doesn't translate to what it was at lower weights. So they must rely on being elusive. Not pacquiao. He just get's stronger the higher up he goes. That is indicative of ped use. Ask any boxer. Roy jones@hw = did not have his power dlh@mw = did not have his power shane mosley@154 = did not ever have power diego corrales@147 = no power at all erik morales above 130 = little power zab judah above 140 = little power its just a fact. Boxers do not carry the same power when hitting an opponent 4 or 5 divisions heavier than where they carried big power. Floyd used to knock out many of his opponents. Floyd's ko ratio diminished as he climbed the divisions. Same happened to everyone listed above. so you saying that every boxer that goes up in weight and still knocking out fighters should get tested. Or just pac should get tested cause your beloved fraud wants it. Fcuking idiot... up and comer? Ortiz is the wbc ww world champion. Lol. Everyone in the world has stated that they will take floyd's tests for the kind of payday pacquiao is looking at. Some say they would take half that and still take the tests. This isn't about up and comers, you homo peasant. Its about transparency. Pacquiao agreed to full transparency but refuses to follow through which shows him to be a liar. You don't publicly agree to a demand then change your mind later on. That's a b!tch move and even a pactarded peasant like you should see that. You will not be able to show any inconsistencies in mayweather's stance. really so retiring for two years to avoid pac and giving out excuse about legal problems not inconsistency to you. I think you are the homo peasant. And all of fraud juices is clogging up your brain. Get off his dick already "take the tests we have a fight. Don't take the tests we don't have a fight." - floyd mayweather manny doesn't have to take the tests. No one is forcing him. He can always take the coward's way out and decline to fight, but we all know that will open the flood gates and the stigma of being a ped abuser will follow him and his legacy forever. Manny pacquiao cannot have it both ways. You can't call yourself the best and then duck the best for 3 years. That supposed "#1 p4p in the world" sh!t would have been shut down 3 years ago had pacquiao found the balls to sign the contract and fight. truth: manny pacquiao has benefited more by not fighting and losing to floyd mayweather. All this speculation couldn't have gone on this long if the fists would have shown and proved. It was in pacquiao's best interests not to have risked everything. If pacquiao would have won, he would have been a god of boxing. However, pacquiao is the betting underdog for good reason. Floyd hasn't fought in a year. Floyd is the older fighter. Floyd fights once a year. Even with all those factors, floyd is still the betting favorite. Pacquiao, roach and arum knows this. They know why too. That's why we still don't have a signed contract. Its a fact that manny has been able to make more of a name for himself by fighting his stablemates under top rank than if he were to risk a fight and lose to mayweather. Mayweather simply continued to beat the best: mosley#1 ww & ortiz#2 ww pacquiao isn't even a real ww champion as he fought cotto for a vacant belt. pinoy puh-leez. fraud ducked the whole welterweight division... ***** please!!!!

Take Floyd out of the equation dude Manny Pacquiao can do no wrong in your eyes. You wont even speak on any questionable actions from him you only rationalize. You think people dont see through this. We do. There is a huge difference in being critical and being biased. After so much hate it becomes obvious which is which. http://gifsforum.com/images/image/stop%20posting/grand/its_time_to_stop_posting.jpg I'm not saying Pac is not also at fault about the fight going to happen. Both fighters are at fault for being *****es. But more so at Fraud's camp for the fight not happening. Pac agreed to whatever timed testing and what ever kind of testing Floyd wants. And Floyd didn't have to come back and fight someone else other than Pac. But watch though when both of their fight talks gets done and they agree to all the drug testing BS. Floyd will ask for the charges to get dropped before the fight happens. These fight will happen but only in Floyd's terms.

I couldnt Green you so I sent you 3Mil instead. Originally Posted by Brother Jay Don't talk to me! Being a bronze medalist means he wasn't a champion? I'm not worthy of your stupidity. You like most peasants miss the forest for the trees.

TESTING... There are millions of boxers and MMA fighters world wide and they all fight under the same rules... But there are a group of people who don't want to change the testing rules for ALL but just for ONE guy... What facts do they have??? Some ingnorant Ni$$a and his daddy and uncle who combined couldn't pass an 8th grade chemistry exam thinks so... Who all fought under the same rules until the youngest was asked to fight a guy he was scared of... All you testing people need to just shut up or boycott boxing until they change the rules for ALL but ducking and cherry picking which fights should have extra testing or not is not only unfair and stupid it makes you look like you are carrying water for 3 ignorant bastards... TESTING FOR ALL or SHUT THE FU$K UP and FIGHT!!! If you want extra test don't just ask one guy. Boycott boxing until your demands are met but don't watch a 1,000 fights without extra test and then act like a guy is tripping when he wants to fight under those same rules.... And these is the reason why boxing is a dying breed. The best boxers of the division cannot get in the ring and fight each other. Fraud is killing it even more.

I agree with much of what you say, Rip. However let's not lose sight of what's really going on. This is Zab's do or die fight. This fight isn't Zab looking to take the division. The perception of Zab Judah right now, regardless of all his talent, is that of a questionable commodity. Zab has been very inconsistent. Amir Khan has answered question from his critics by taking some thunder from Maidana, but that doesn't still mean that he doesn't have a San Andreas fault line across that chin. These two guys are both questionable IMO. It just so happens that Judah has made a stronger case for being questionable. No one will be able to take credit from Khan if he wins this fight in impressive fashion. However, its important to see things in context. You can't call Judah questionable and inconsistent and then call a Khan win significant. Judah is and has always been an ATG talent, but talent only gets you so far. Khan beating Judah may only serve to show how far from grace Judah has fallen rather than show us how far up Khan has ascended. Even if Judah did win, it wouldn't surprise anyone. What would surprise people is if Judah won, and then beat Bradley and then beat another top contender. That would be consistency. That would be showing the one thing that Judah has NEVER shown us before. THAT and that alone would be the big surprise coming from Judah. Khan winning and Judah fading would be what the gamblers are betting on. If Khan wins, he has earned a shot at Bradley. If Judah wins, he has earned a shot at Bradley. Whoever wins, if they beat Bradley, they will be THE MAN at 140lbs. This fight is basically just a qualifier to get to the big stage. It isn't as big as the hype that surrounds it. Khan's brash talk has created a buzz. Khan actually has a bigger mouth than Zab Judah. That's rare. Let's face it, I LOVE Judah's talent, but he didn't look all that impressive against Matthysse. Khan looked decent against Maidana. Fight night will make or break one of these guys. No need to try to make this seem like a legacy defining bout. Its not. It just has the potential for lots of fun. Brother Jay, What do you say about Roger Mayweather accusing Khan that Khan is on steroids.

Ummm ... what fighter doesn't want to get paid? Is Manny Pacquiao fighting for just the honor? In that case he should just refuse his part of the purse in his upcoming fight. Right? Idiot. Second best? When did Manny Pacquiao become the best? Is it when Manny fought DLH after Floyd outboxed him? Is it when Manny fought Hatton after Floyd KO'd him? Is it when Manny fought Cotto after Margarito had beaten him bloody? Or was it when he fought Joshua Clottey who has lost every significant match in his career? No no .. it must be when Arum paid Texas officials to lift Margarito's ban in that state so that he could fight Manny for a vacant jrMW belt that neither man was in contention for, right? No? Oh ... I know ... it was when Manny fought Mosley who has been dominated by Floyd and managed a draw in his fight right before he faced Manny. That must have been when Manny became #1, right? You are an ignorant peasant who is too stupid to be ashamed of himself. Name one excuse. Just one. The demand is the same. USADA random testing to the day of the fight. In the beginning they negotiated Floyd down to 14 days and then refused it. Now they are begging for the 14 days. I'll be waiting for the excuse, peasant. You are desperate and it shows. So this ought to be amusing. Why should Floyd fight Martinez in the next year? A better question is why didn't Pacquiao who claimed to be a 154lbs titlist???? Why did Manny IMMEDIATELY vacate the belt? Its because he knew he'd have to defend it. He;; he didn't even fight a legit jrMW. That's because DLH, Hatton and Marquez didn't come up in weight and then begin start to stand toe to toe with bigger men. DLH was KO'd for going up to MW and fighting the best. Marquez got beat attempting to do the same thing. Only Pacquiao has come up since pairing with Roach and has been able to stand in front of WW and quasi jrMW and stand toe to toe. In boxing, that's called bullsh!t. When other boxers have moved up and challenged a bigger fighter, they usually stick and move. Their power doesn't translate to what it was at lower weights. So they must rely on being elusive. Not Pacquiao. He just get's stronger the higher up he goes. That is indicative of PED use. Ask ANY boxer. Roy Jones@HW = did not have his power DLH@MW = did not have his power Shane Mosley@154 = did not ever have power Diego Corrales@147 = no power at all Erik Morales above 130 = little power Zab Judah above 140 = little power Its just a fact. Boxers do not carry the same power when hitting an opponent 4 or 5 divisions heavier than where they carried big power. Floyd used to knock out many of his opponents. Floyd's KO ratio diminished as he climbed the divisions. Same happened to everyone listed above. Up and comer? Ortiz is the WBC WW world champion. LOL. Everyone in the WORLD has stated that they will take Floyd's tests for the kind of payday Pacquiao is looking at. Some say they would take half that and still take the tests. This isn't about up and comers, you homo peasant. Its about TRANSPARENCY. Pacquiao agreed to FULL TRANSPARENCY but refuses to follow through which shows him to be a LIAR. You don't publicly agree to a demand then change your mind later on. That's a b!tch move and even a pactarded peasant like you should see that. You will not be able to show any inconsistencies in Mayweather's stance. "Take the tests we have a fight. Don't take the tests we don't have a fight." - Floyd Mayweather Manny doesn't have to take the tests. No one is forcing him. He can always take the coward's way out and decline to fight, but we all know that will open the flood gates and the stigma of being a PED abuser will follow him and his legacy FOREVER. Manny Pacquiao cannot have it both ways. You can't call yourself the best and then duck the best for 3 years. That supposed "#1 P4P in the world" sh!t would have been shut down 3 years ago had Pacquiao found the balls to sign the contract and fight. TRUTH: Manny Pacquiao has benefited more by NOT fighting and losing to Floyd Mayweather. All this speculation couldn't have gone on this long if the fists would have shown and proved. It was in Pacquiao's best interests not to have risked everything. If Pacquiao would have won, he would have been a god of boxing. However, Pacquiao is the betting underdog for good reason. Floyd hasn't fought in a year. Floyd is the older fighter. Floyd fights once a year. Even with all those factors, Floyd is STILL the betting favorite. Pacquiao, Roach and Arum knows this. They know why too. That's why we still don't have a signed contract. Its a fact that Manny has been able to make more of a name for himself by fighting his stablemates under Top Rank than if he were to risk a fight and lose to Mayweather. Mayweather simply continued to beat the best: Mosley#1 WW & Ortiz#2 WW Pacquiao isn't even a real WW champion as he fought Cotto for a vacant belt. Pinoy puh-leez. Originally Posted by Brother Jay Don't talk to me! Being a bronze medalist means he wasn't a champion? I'm not worthy of your stupidity. You like most peasants miss the forest for the trees.

IF Khan was to fight again at 140 and CAN'T get Bradley I think Vargas would be a good money fight. It would have Mayweather's name all over it and it would set up a fight between Khan and Mayweather (assuming Khan wins). I personally think that IF Khan cant get Bradley at JWW he should just move up and fight a WW even if it was Mosley or Berto. At least get a fight or two at 147 before fighting the best and displaying how EASY it is to step in the ring with him.....Is Khan punking Pac??? Then again after its all done and said it will have taken Khan 2 plus years to get in the ring with Mayweather too... at least he says it will take him X amount of years until he's ready... THEN again, Roach was qouted at one point that Pac wasnt ready for a fighter like Mayweather... Is Khan going to have the balls to test before Pac????? O SHYT, all the pacterds gonna hate the JWW Khan now... lol you are fcuking dumba55.. nobody cares what you think. just because you love mayweather's nuts does not mean any fighter associated with him is a money fight. you are suppose to be smarter than this yet Frauds juices that flows in your head clouds your sound judgement. You are giving him too much credit. the five sig you have is suppose to show how much people doubt mayweather everytime he gets in the ring. i could show you 1 mill quotes that praises him and betting lines for every fight showing his is the favorite. not everybody hates on him for his boxings skills, some people just loves him too much and put him in a pedestal just like what you are do. answer me this one though. Why is it that he does not require OST for the fighters he is promoting. He has a fighter right now about to fight, Vargas, i don't see any news that reads that fight doing OST. I thought to you Flomos he is revolutionizing the world of boxing. I thought to you he will change the world of boxing. I guess not. I guess OST is just an excuse.

Mayweather is On PEDs please man. the commish dont already knows there is a ped problem just like MLB knew there was a problem. to admit there is a problem is to say you are putting out a flawed product. so like MLB boxing commish is putting its head in the sand. and how is it a road block? if your man is clean he wouldnt have a problem taking the test. it has nothing to do with your education level. Bro where you been at. Pacquaio already agreed to the testing. Its your boy Fraud that does not want to fight him. Now he is going to pick a fighter the won what exactly. he just had a good night against Berto and now he is the best option for Fraud to fight. Truth is Fraud will never fight Pacquaio he scared to loos that "0". And pacquaio is the biggest threat to do that. This Ortiz fight is going to be a easy 20 mil for Fraud. then he is going to take another vacation. But lets not get carried away about Fraud fighting a tough fighter. This dude quit against Maidana. Maybe Fraud is on Steriods... People he hangs around with uses it.

I'm fed up with PBF and his child-like antics . Manny don't worry Floyd is likely to come to you with two loses on his record ... Ortiz AND Khan .........LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when and if that happens this fight will definitely not happen.

So much wild speculation on these boards. A WADA approved lab is now not good enough? Pacquiao, at Floyd's command, should have to train exclusively in the US because that is where a few of you morons feel that the only legitimate testing can be done? Testing that Pacquiao has supposedly agreed to despite being under no obligation to do so? Assuming this is accurate information, this should make everyone happy. Instead, certain fans still complain. Pathetic. That is how some of this Floydie's react to a great fight happening... And put this excuse are already build up for Fraud when he get KO'ed by Pac Some of the floydies in this thread is already saying that Manny's team is waiting for Fraud to loss a step. Keep being retards floydies

Khan is not a HBO PPV fighter and has yet to even draw Victor Ortiz or Donaire type numbers on HBO WCB. To kill everything, he doesn't even bring Hatton type amount of crowd from England. So he basically has nothing yet, he brings nothing, he wants a Floyd fight handed to him by fighting Judah, MCloskey, and Matthew Hatton. Fight who Floyd is telling you to fight, beat that fighter, then get a Floyd fight. Get your HBO ratings game up at least, and get a bigger following. The thing is though nobody knows if he is a PPV fighter or not. he has not fought on PPV yet here in the US. Why should he fight mayweather's fighter? he does not need that fight, he could fight someone else with a bigger name. Why is everyone putting this guys word in a pedestal. Khan does not even need that Floyd fight to get paid. And by the time Floyd and khan fight, Floyd would have lost a step. not worth it to run through hoops for that fight.

pacquiao knows good and well this fight won't happen unless he drops the sissy lawsuit.thats pure common sense. he says that he wants to fight mayweather,but do the testing outside the united states and continue the sissy lawsuit. that looks and sounds like ducking to me. Of course thats the new excuse Frauds(drop the lawsuit or no fight) is conjuring up now..And dumba55 FLOMOS like you will eat it up. this guy Fraud will find every little excuse he can to avoid Pac in the ring. He is just too scared to loss that "0". And that testing is suppose to be done outside the U.S., because he has to train in the PI just like he always does with his fight. GEt it Moron!!!! learn something before you post something. And I hope he does continue the lawsuit because ignorant Flomos like you keeps justifying that lawsuit.

Are you ****in' kidding? Lol toprank and goldenboy don't do business with each other. we want a rematch to prove Agbeko got his ass beat the first time. Speaking of Agbeko , everybody thinks low blows are what caused him to lose. If he then is the winner why not fight him since don king and bob arum DO promote together . This is a stupid logic coming from a nuthugger. Stop making an excuse for GBP. Why don't they do the rematch.

This is some bullsh__! Pac-Man running from the U.S. so he can't be properly tested? LOL! Floyd please don't go for that bullsh__! Pac-Man needs to bring his narrow ass to the U.S. so we can keep a watchful eye on him. His home country to do the testing? How big off a joke is that? Come on stop the bullsh__! In my opinion, this is just another example that shows how far they will go to hide the truth about Pac-Man. Amazing! We should boycott this fight and not buy a single pay-per-view until they bring that narrow ass Pac-Man to the U.S. the entire time! Floyd you don't need that bullsh__. Neither do we as the public. are you retarded?!?!? no matter where he trains even if he does not train in the wild card gym, he still have to come here at least two weeks before to get himself acclimated with the time differences. also the agreement of the testing would be until the day off the fight. I swear you freaking Floydie's got a lot of Frauds juices flowing through your head, you don't think straight.

It is funny as hell that Pac ducked the midget Marquez for three years, he must have p1ssed himself when JMM jumped on a plane to the Philippines :D But now..... now that THE ENTIRE WORLD knows that Marquez cant hang at welter..... NOW Manny will fight him :lol1: Hey dumba55. aren't they fighting in a cacthweight. another excuse you going to put on one of Pac fight to discredit his accomplishment. i swear you became stupid when it comes to Pac and Fraud. This is a FACT: written in the record books The second fight was won by Pac. only knocked down was by Pac. Only true haters of Pac believes JMM won that fight. First fight. it was a draw. But one of the judge admitted later on that he couldn't count. which could have given a point higher to Pac. I told you stop swallowing Fraud's juices, it's bad for your brain, it makes you dumber. And by the looks of it you have had too much of it already. OST A KNOWN EXCUSE USED BY A BOXER TO DUCKED THE BEST FIGHTER OF HIS GENERATION.

USADA has no jurisdiction over professional boxing. The US Congress has only given them authority over the Olympics, Paralympics, and Pan American Games. Plus... Mayweather changed his stance Saturday, moving off the hard line he had taken on using USADA as the testing agency. "We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective." Schaefer said those talks are taking place between Bruce Binkow, a high-level Golden Boy executive, and Todd duBoef, the president of Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter. "Todd and Bruce are trying to work out the specifics of the cutoff to assure the tests are still effective because we know that 30 days before is not effective," Schaefer said. "At 30 days, we might as well not even do it. We want to figure it out and I will give my recommendation to Team Mayweather, and they will be on board. USADA is the most recognized one, but if it's another one, like the Nevada commission, we don't really care. I don't care who performs the tests as long as they are performed. That's our position. If this fight doesn't happen it's not because of Team Mayweather." http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4772853 So unless Floyd/GBP move the goal posts inexplicably again... what's the problem? :thinking: They got the random, unlimited testing that's supposedly prevented Floyd from fighting Pacquiao (:lol1:). So let the commission, aka the organization that has authority over the match, conduct the testing with WADA overseeing them. Problem solved. /Thread. how do i put this in my sig

How could Mayweather fight Manny and Manny already had a fight lined up? That would be difficult to do. Secondly, I suggest yawl visit fighthype.com and see exactly why the May and Pac fight did not happen. And if May was afraid of Pac why would he call him out? Usually if you are afraid of someone you leave them alone. Now either this is the worse kind of reverse psychology that May is using or he really wants to fight Manny. Isn't this what some of the Pac Mania people were complaining about "Why does Floyd not call out Manny..." he calls him out and now he is just saying that to sell his fight. His fight will sell regardless. And why is additional testing such an awful thing? If I was a fan of a boxer I would want to know that he/she is doing it the right way. I have never seen a backlash because someone wants additional testing. Tyson called for additional testing with Evander, but I guess Tyson is a jerk too.... And before I get called a Flomo or May lover I like the sport of boxing not just one fighter. I want to see a clean and fair fight nothing more nothing less. Mosely and Ortiz had no problem with it... Neither does May just Manny. And as a boxing getting hit by punches and headbutts causes bleeding, he hasn't suffered has or has he? To your point about testing... Why should a fighter subject himself to it if it is not required by an sanctioning bodies. Not even any sport in the world requires it. Only the olympic committee, which is done every four years. Moseley and Ortiz agreed because they have a chance to fight a big fight no one else would give them. hence ortiz is only getting 5 mil to Floyd's 20 mil. Pac is in the same level as Floyd maybe higher as the hottest fighter right now so Pac would not concede to anything this guy wants. Another reason why Pac is not talking about this guy because his does not need to fight this guy to validate himself as one of the great fighters. But because boxing fans wants it soooo much and they are asking for it he agreed to the testings that Floyd wanted, But as you can see from the post here in these thread Floyd keeps changing his mind. First he wanted to 21 days manny agreed, 14 days Pac disregarded it but finally agreed. then it became 7 days pac agreed. finally it became till the day of the fight and what happened Pac agreed. Lookk for Brother jays post it's there or in youtube im sure you can find it. Pac wants this fight but he will not run after him like a biatch. Floyd might not be scared but he sure is not showing that he wants to fight him. All this calling out BS is for publicity for his upcoming fight. you haven't heard floyd call out Pac when he was in retirement right. none not a word. he waited for Pac to get in contract then thats when he came out of retirement.

Boxing is a Joke The more I read articles about this sanctioning bodies and their belts the more i lose interest in boxing. The champion should be aloud to hold on the belt until someone takes it from them or the boxer retire. Cmon' Manny retire already so that i could stop following this joke of a sport

About 90% of fighters and trainers disagree with you buddy. Because they think Money is not only on Pac's level. They think he beats him. Actually, many believe he beats him quite easily. How the hell do you know 90% of trainers and boxers....Stop being stupid you don't know ****.

Pacquiao/Berto would be a great fight to watch, and running from Pacquiao would be the biggest mistake Berto could make so I think he's right by his statements. Berto needs to continue working on his stamina and lay off the weights. Hopefully whatever Conte is doing for Ward/Donaire works for hiim as well. Man i hope Pac never fights Berto. it's a made up excuse for the Pac haters.. BErto is coming off a Loss to ORtiz who Fraud beat. I wanna see a fight between Pac Vs Fraud/Ortiz. Then if Khan still on top that is what Pac should fight after Fraud. then its all done. He will be the GOAT. Better than Ali or any other greats.

Floyd is A B1TCH Frauds excuses timeline. 1. i want 60/40 Pac is not as a big star as me/ 2. ok ill agree to 50/50 but you have to take OST with 14 day cut. 3. ok with 14 cut off.. oh wait not 14 anymore. thats off the table you waited too long 4. oh wait you agreed to no cut off.. oh **** now you have to train here in the US no where else because USADA is the only organization that should do the test 5. what you agree to training in the US. now you have to drop the lawsuit because the lawsuit only came when you refuse the drug test (this is in the future) the funny situation about this whole thing is. Frauds fighters that he is promoting does not even do the OST. And once he retires this OST will retire with him

Scared Ducking Can I ask all the Flomos in here. this dude Vargas is under mayweather promotions Right? Why is it that he does not have to do OST or this fight is not required to do OST if Fraud is trying to change boxing. Is OST only for Pac. Is OST only a ploy to avoid Pac in the ring.

Why is Ronnie still writing in English? The guy is not capable of writing an article without atleast one run-on-sentence in every paragraph. Get a damn proofreader for pete's sake!!! That or stick to writing in Tagalog!!! oh **** we have an english teacher here.. oh wait maybe just a pretender... don't read his **** then dumba55

Well let's put it this way: Floyd Mayweather is the #1 fighter right now because he beat the #1 WW and is the #1 draw. Before that, Floyd was #1 for beating the best in every division except 1 because the champion wanted a 60/40 split. Floyd's legacy is one of quality of quantity. Pacquiao is not #1 because he has fought for 5 vacant titles in attempt to match Floyd's multi division championships. The difference is that Floyd fought WBC champions for his distinctions. Pacquiao avoided any champions for his. Pacquiao was praised for his wins over ring worn Barrera and Morales, but once he stepped up and faced the guy they had both been avoiding for years, Pacquiao, he had to get help by the judges to win matches that he clearly lost. The rematch was even more convincingly for Marquez. Lastly, Pacquiao tried to make his case as P4P#1 by moving up like Floyd did, but the difference in the two feats is that Mayweather never used catchweights or used contracts to stipulate how much weight could be gained after the weigh in. Mayweather fought whoever was the #1 champion at WW and beat them to make his case for #1. Pacquiao fought boxers ranked FIFTH or worse to match Mayweather's claim. When put like that, without the fluff or opinion, it becomes crystal clear as to why Floyd is #1 because of what he's done and why Manny is hyped as a top boxer because he's "so small" but won some matches against FIFTH ranked WW fighters. Quality of wins Vs Quantity of wins. Floyd took off 2008, came back in 2009 and within 2 fights had dwarfed Pacquiao's case for #1 by fighting better opposition. Some might argue that Marquez was too small. Then argue that Manny is too small as well, but by doing that you'll be admitting that Pacquiao has used special treatment tactics to "level the playing field", which effectively negate any legitimate claim to a top spot at WW or P4P. Wow... Really were are you getting your info from?!?!?! Source please. May has not fought anybody that is worthy. Actually lets look it at together. Moseley- Moseley has been trying to fight him when he was in his prime. E.G when he beat delahoya. But what happened May Ducked him until he knows that he is too old and too slow to fight him. Marquez- May ask him to go up to welterweight with no catch weight. Every boxing fans know that is not Marquez natural weight. which if you know anything about gaining weight it makes you slower hence you loose some power. Pacquiao beat Marquez at the weight that he is most effective. The draw that was given out was a farce. Even the judge that made a mistake admitted that he made a mistake. Anyone that thinks Pac lost that fight is just a hater and know nothing about boxing. Delahoya- when he fought May he came off a 14 month inactivity. And some boxing fans even thought that Delahoya got rob. Even his own father, Floyd SR. thought Delahoya won that fight. Hence the Split Decision. Pac made DLH quit. Hatton- Mayweather ask him to fight at 147lbs Because he saw how bad Hatton was in his last fight at 147. pac fought him at his natural weight and KO'd him. Before those fight i mentioned above his bodies of fight are not that impressive. look at his schedule. the only great fight he had was against Castillo. IF you think that that is more impressive that Pac schedule you know nothing about boxing. Pac fought all the top fighters in any division he steps into. Barrera. twice he beat him at the weight that they are most effective and when he was on the top of his game no waiting Morales- same thing when he was at the top of his game. Hatton-was the title holder at Light WW and that is wherePac beat him Cotto- same story Title holder and Pac took it from him. Clottey- was a top five WW at that time Margarito- super WW title holder at the time Pac beat him Diaz- title holder. Floyd Mayweather is the #1 fighter right now because he beat the #1 WW and is the #1 draw. He is scared to fight the #1 WW right now. He keeps ducking him. now he is using his name to sell tickets to this BS fight he has coming up. Mayweather is scared to fight Pac because he knows that is the only fighter in world that could take that "0" away from him. And once that "0" is gone smart boxing fans will see how bad and mediocre his body of work trully is. The only argument that is making him great right now is him "0". Without it, is hard to argue on his behalf of how great he is.

This is true. Til' this day, not a lot of people know Manny Juice Pacquita. Mayweather is known... he's the Jordan of boxing!:boxing: You're on Frauds Dick and you got his juices flowing through your brains if you really think that. Stop disrespecting Michael Jordan clown.

Why is it that Pac could choose the parameters for the 10 mil per lb request and its not required by the commission. Why aren't u worried about that? Neither did Floyd, but he did on the first get around, unlike Pac. Mayweather changed his stance Saturday, moving off the hard line he had taken on using USADA as the testing agency. "We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective." Schaefer said those talks are taking place between Bruce Binkow, a high-level Golden Boy executive, and Todd duBoef, the president of Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter. "Todd and Bruce are trying to work out the specifics of the cutoff to assure the tests are still effective because we know that 30 days before is not effective," Schaefer said. "At 30 days, we might as well not even do it. We want to figure it out and I will give my recommendation to Team Mayweather, and they will be on board. USADA is the most recognized one, but if it's another one, like the Nevada commission, we don't really care. I don't care who performs the tests as long as they are performed. That's our position. If this fight doesn't happen it's not because of Team Mayweather." http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4772853

PAc will kill Boxing When Pac retire the whole boxing sport will become an even smaller drawing sport. nobody will watch a PPV fight anymore, maybe just a Floyd fight to see him lose. anymore fights will not be as big. it's very sad but very true. you could see it now there are no PPV fights this year but the Floyd fight and the Pac fight. and when Pac retires it will only be a Floyd fight that will be PPV but who will be big enough to fight Floyd and draw PPV numbers. Khan? maybe martinez? maybe... Sorry true boxing fans your sport is going to die with the BEST FIGHTER THIS GENERATION HAVE EVER SEEN. A FIGHTER WHO FOUGHT EVERY BOXER THAT WAS PUT IN FRONT OF HIM. A FIGHTER WHO IS NOT SCARED TO FIGHT ANYBODY. A HERO TO HIS COUNTRY AND FANS AROUND THE WORLD.