let me tell that a man that never hurt MANNY in 36 rounds can't put him KD...JMM was able to take a powerfull right hook and a tremendous straight left hand only to lose his balance touching the canvas with the glove but he was still strong on his legs......sorry but i don't believe that DONKEY CAN FLY and IMO the combination:
HUGE MUSCLES + COACH THAT WORKED WITH STEROIDS IN THE PAST = CHEATER!
Revert back to fight #2 and fast forward to 35 second of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVStmLCoH30
Marquez "never" hurt Manny? Did Manny just feel like break dancing in the middle of a fight? LOL.
Manny has connected Marquez many times and he still got up. Matter of fact, he has been connected 4 times and gotten up.
there will be more catch weight fights and damaged goods..because we just found out anyone who possesses "any" danger is too much for him.
Yo my man, why do you have a picture of Mayweather dropping a smaller Marquez as if to suggest Floyd beat him fair and square? Fact is Mayweather came in over wieght becuz he was scared - typical.
He also ran and made unprecedented, quite frankly unrealistic demands to fight the Pacman in his prime. Why? Everyone knows he was scared. While Marquez raised to Pacman's challenge (in his prime) and we got 4 great, controversial fights as a result. If Floyd wants to be the best, he has to fight the best at their best and not run, cherry pick opponents or fight with an unfair advantage.
Dude has the fastest hands in the game, greatest skills but refuses to use them or step up. What a sham. And, I'm actually one of the guys that thinks Floyd would of beat Pacman. Too bad he is just too much of a (fill in the blank) to step up. "peeleft:
MANNY was fighting very well but i saw no movements right-left,right-left with the body before attack and he let JMM put his feet over his feet again;anyawy he was fighting good and JMM's face was becoming to bleed badly before the KO;anyawy let me tell that a man that never hurt MANNY in 36 rounds can't put him KD and KO cold with only one punch and no combinations but most incredible is that JMM was able to take a powerfull right hook and a tremendous straight left hand only to lose his balance touching the canvas with the glove but he was still strong on his legs......sorry but i don't believe that DONKEY CAN FLY and IMO the combination:
HUGE MUSCLES + COACH THAT WORKED WITH STEROIDS IN THE PAST = CHEATER!
It's apparent you know nothing about boxing. JMM was the smarter fighter that night. You really need to go back and look at the 3 fights once again if you believe Marquez never hurt Pacman.
That right connected perfect and was a combination of Manny's full force going forward and Marquez landing it at the perfect and most powerful place - nobody would be able to get up from that connection, even if hit by a pillow fisted fighter.
With regard to your allegations of steroid use, please look up the definition of irony. lol.
Was nearly right? Since when did that count? LOL @ your moral victory, too bad it doesn't count. And you don't know if he was going to "destroy" Marquez, because Marquez KHTFO, MANG! Get off Pac's nuggets - damn scrotum......
LOLOLOL if they fight again, I can't see Pacman making any adjustments. As Roy Jones Jr. was saying, "the one thing that stuck out in my head when interviewing Juan Manuel Marquez is that he said, Manny may be faster and stronger, but I'm smarter."
This fight proves that Juan outsmarted the great Manny and if people think it was a "lucky" shot, they don't know **** about boxing.
Without a doubt they're protecting Canelo more than Chavez Jr. It's not even a question.
JR. IS MORE PROTECTED THAN CANELO??
The guy caught cheating, the guy walking in over 20 lbs. and not tested, the guy that hasn't faced his mandatory for the past 2 fights, the guy with the hall of fame daddy, the guy with the WBC president as godfather, the guy given a gift decision vs. Zbik, the guy nominated for the CompuBox worst decisions of 2011 from a statistical perspective (vs. Zbik)...please, please, please tell me how.
Is Canelo protected? Hell ya he is, but not as much as Jr. I CANT WAIT TO HEAR THIS ONE. :friday:
when I look at Lara, I see "don't EVER bet against me" written on his face :lol1:
Did you see Lara's face trembling in fear when he supposedly called out Nelo and Nelo just laughed at him? Lara looked like he saw a ghost, all scared!
That's sad. Juana Manuela Marquez has nowhere near the legacy that Pacman Pacquaio has. Juan ma didn't white wash and KO the #1 140 pound fighter in the world in two rounds. And Juan ma didn't rule the 147 pound division with an IRON FIST Ala Pacman. And Juan ma didn't make the so called pound for pound Picasso run for the hills with a diaper full of dog **** in it. PAC and Marquez battled each other pretty evenly for 42 rounds, and Marquez landed a once in a lifetime perfected placed punch. That doesn't necessarily make Juan Marquez better than Pacman, that just means that he landed the perfectly placed punch. But if Juan Marquez wants to base his whole boxing life and career on Manny Pacquaio so be it. It almost seems like a sick obsession to me.
Right, but you also have to take into account the razor thin, controversial bouts between them. What were to happen if JMM won the 1st, 2nd or even 3rd? Would Pacman have given the chance to fight De La Hoya, Hatton, Mosley...etc. Point is that they helped and needed each other and BOTH are GREAT HOF CHAMPIONS. Don't be bitter because you're hero got KTFO. What is sad is the obsession with Pacman.
what other opponent has floyd put at a disadvantage? also, check my question about whether this 152 lb weight limit gives floyd the ability to use 8oz gloves, since fights @ 154 lbs+ require 10oz gloves. remember, he begged the commission to allow him to use 8oz gloves against cotto, but they strictly prohibit it. this could be the reason why the catchweight, if that's the case.
Good point about the gloves, but what about Marquez i.e. top competition = disadvantage.
Trout was straight up robbed! He controled the fight and landed more punches!canelo is OVERRATED but we all knew this but damn! 118-109!? The money is with canelo but that is why boxing is dying! Winners are picked before the fight! Texas should be avoided by all fighters as Mexicans are always going to get the nod! Golden boy sucks and so does MEXICO!
You are a stupid, ignorant piece of ****. You're bashing a great country over a boxing match? Go burn some crosses and sleep with your cousin you ****n *****.
So its confirmed.
With that said vacate the title at 54 so we can all move on and quit talking about it then.
Yes!! We ALL know that Floyd is going to duck Canelo. Floyd just run as fast as you can towards the other incredible WW in the division like Paulie M, D. Alexander, D. Garcia, A. Berto, T. Bradley and K. Brook, said nobody ever.
well i remember people were saying how canelo hit much much harder than pac before the mosley fight..so when canelo couldn't even knock down mosley or deter him from coming forward all night it just showed how much hype there was around canelo;s power. only reason he looks strong is because he's fighting guys who are either way past it or naturally smallr or both....
LOLOLOLOL Who told you Pac hits harder than Canelo? You believe them, whoever they are. Also, you need to rewatch the fight, by round 6 Mosley was pretty much playing defense and running, did the same thing with both Floyd and Pac.
Right, I'm sure all 30 guys he has KOed would agree with you. LOL. Also, Pac had Reyes gloves (puncher gloves) when he fought Mosely. Canelo had Grants which are pillows. Geez, why do casual fight fans frequent this blog? :smashfrea
If Silva survived, hurt, and stood up to Angulo's best shots, what makes you think Canelo wouldn't destroy Angulo in the ring? Unless you're going to say something delusional like Silva is better than Canelo, which is in your posting style to say something like that.
Canelo would beat Angulo worse than Kirkland did, because Canelo wouldn't get caught like Kirkland.
Respond if you want to make a bet on Canelo over Angulo/Trout. Name the amount of points you want to bet. My side of the bet is that the loser rocks the fighter they betted against, as an avatar of the winners choice, for one month.
WOW! You really need to go back and reread my posts. I am saying Canelo will beat Angulo buddy. However, I think Angulo packs a hell of a punch and if ANYBODY got caught FLUSH they will go down. What's so "delusional" about that? I told the other guy that Canelo wouldn't get caught and thus, beat Angulo.
I've been saying since day one that Canelo will beat Kirkland, Angulo, and Trout! I think the only delusional thing here is your reading ability. :pat:
yeah he threw with bad intentions the funny thing is that he was hitting air and elbows, or you counting those too? Look a gingers face again... Lara stood on front of ginger he didn't know what to do.
OMG. Did you watch the fight? You are in denial. Lara avoided standing in front of Nelo like the plague! WTF are you talking about. Dude, sure Canelo was missing and hitting air, but you can't deny the body work. You talk about Canelo's face, look at Lara's face all bloody and swollen.
Lara lost. GET>OVER>IT. :fing02:
Actually, if Canelo loses, he is still unbeaten according to Floyd himself who said Cotto was still unbeaten due to the Catchweight. What goes around, comes around.
LOLOLOLOL I see what you did there. :fing02:
Yes Canelo is a true warrior... Funny and ironic how you talk about Chavez's weight advantage but have you forgotten who Canelo has been fighting...? Get lost dude. You dont belong in boxing forums.
Please! Jr. comes in 15-20 pounds overweight. He refused to step on the scale the day he fought Martinez. Against Rubio he had blown up to 181 pounds for a fight scheduled at 160! Don't even try to compare Canelo's weight advantage to Jr.'s.
Fact of the matter is a lot of people hate on Canelo just to hate. I've read the most ridiculous comments on this blog, Canelo will get "destroyed" by the likes of Vanes, Trout, Angulo and Lara. That is ridiculous, first people talk smack about Canelo for "not fighting anyone" yet they say that another fighter THAT HAS NOT FOUGHT ANYONE will "destroy" Canelo? So stupid. Case in point, on this thread one dude said that slow poke Angulo would KO Canelo.
So now, Trout beat Cotto, so he will automatically destroy Canelo? Right Canelo haters?
I will take that bet all day, everyday. How do we bet? Never done it before.
Period. Enough said. Under-estimate Shane Mosley all you want based on the results to his fights with Pacquiao and Mayweather, but styles make fights. Mosley has not been hurt, he's always in great shape, has a lot of fight left in him, his divorce is behind him, and he's fought much larger, harder hitting greats in Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright, than this fight with Canelo. Canelo come blazing in after Shane all you want; you get KNOCKED OUT.
Put your points where your mouth is. I bet you any amount that Canelo not only beats Mosley, but DOMINATES him. Shoot me any bet and I will accept, cuz I am certain that Canelo wins this - easily.
First of all, it's not Suleiman's belt to give out.
It's JCC JR's belt. It should be called THE JCCJ BELT.
JCC JR seeks approval from no man. Not the WBC, not Sulieman. NO ONE.
WOW..:smashfrea
WBC 154-pound champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (41-0-1, 30KOs) says the upcoming unification with WBA champion Austin Trout (26-0, 14KOs) "is personal."
This is total BS, just yesterday I heard his interview in Spanish and he said nothing of the sort. He said this verbatim, "if him beating my brother is extra motivation then that's great. But I am motivated for every single fight and I train hard for each opponent."
This is typical, media trying to make something out of nothing. SMH.
Winning a few rounds against Floyd must be that big an accomplishment.
LMAO!!! Sure, winning a "few" rounds, as well as leaving the entire left side of Mayweather's body red and face beat up is a big accomplishment! Meanwhile Chino looked like he came out of getting a facial after the fight. But keep trying to stay up on cloud 9, we ALL know you Mayweather fans were shaking in your lil space Jordan's that fight.
You must not know a whole lot of people then. I know plenty of neutral fans who say PAC won all three. It's not bias it's calling them like I see them...
And I say it again, I know A LOT of Pacman fans. :banghead:
Chavez Jr. by KO...Canelo won't last no more than 7 rounds. Canelo is too small for Chavez Jr. Chavez Jr. takes this one easily, Martinez is by far a greater challenge but one that Chavez Jr. can also win.
What have you been smoking? I would like for all Jr. fans or people that think he can beat Canelo to explain how in the world do you see Jr. winning? The guy fights janitors and still looks average - at best. He has no KO power and gets hit constantly.
Please, somebody explain it to me.
Uhhhh, why is it that when people speak the truth, they're "hating"? You know he fights old men & small dudes yourself, so how is it "hating"? Cotto lost & Canelo still want to fight him, whereas when Trout beat his brother, he said he wants to "avenge" the loss. Yeah, talk the talk, but why not walk the walk & fight Trout, especially if Trout is so "pillow-fisted"? And P-Will was never the same after Martinez laid him out. And Victor Ortiz is a nutjob, and is easily shaken from his game plan - don't you think that Canelo's people knew these things going in? C'mon man, stop it - open your eyes......
My point is that any fight he makes, people will still cry and criticize. Even if he fights Trout (who he said he would btw). And if/when they do fight and Canelo KHTFO, people are still going to cry about something...i.e. "Trout wasn't a real threat." Yes, he hasn't face anyone, but it's not for a lack of trying (P-Will & Ortiz). These guys were legit threats and ppl still complain! i.e. "hating" Saying that he ONLY fights WW & Old Guys is half-true, without mentioning the willingness to fight P-Will & Ortiz.
P-Will was 'never' the same. Yes, Lara beat him, but he is a tricky boxer who can make anybody look bad. Style's make fights. On the other hand, P-Will clearly beat Noshida - not saying much I know, but he did win.
Victor 'Teddy Bear' Ortiz was still a very challenging fight at the time.
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Aaaa I can't wait to see this fight. Mark my words, as soon as Canelo lands the first clean combo, Trout will back-up and lose the mental battle. Subsequently, losing the punching battle and finally the standing battle.
Canelo by TKO in the middle rounds. :boxing:
Haha wtf?, where have you been living, Chavez all this last year has been challenging Canelo for a fight, and Canelo just said that he was not interested because he had better fights
Lately, they have been calling each other out. However, as I mentioned in my previous post, Canelo was calling him out early in his career and Jr. would run and hide from him - irrelevant now, I know. Was an FYI.
Furthermore, calling Canelo out? At what weight class (you get my point)? Jr.'s daddy pulled a Mayweather when asked about Canelo, "My son doesn't need Canelo, but if the fight happens we will welcome it." Come on buddy, I think Canelo has made JCC Jr. more famous. Who has sold more tickets? So who really needs who?
Canelo didn't look good against Rhodes? Did you watch that fight? Man oh, man - do you realize how many power punches Rhodes landed on rounds: 1, 4, 9 and 12? Of course you don't. He landed a whooping total of 2 power punches in those rounds...2. You know how much he landed in the 8th? Ya, just 1. The most he landed was 6 in 2 rounds.
Was it an exciting fight - no. But for you to say he didn't look good is just prepostorous. Canelo never lost a round, and earned the KO. Please explain how that is "not looking good." I guess you are right though, he didn't look good, but nearly perfect.
Victor just need's a trainer that will teach him how to JAB before loading up on his power shot's, a set of balls would help too.
Baaahahaha really, a trainer cant help him get a heart. Victor should change his name to "Teddy Bear."
"a set of balls would help too." bahahhahahahah :no:
Good summary. Alexander is just a stick, being used to stir the pot. It's Floyd-Ghost that's going to be served for dinner.
As my buddy said today, Mayweather is doing this so people can beg for the Guerrero fight. Using a turd fight to make another turd fight look better.
If Naz sees something out of place in the opponent's locker room he will make a rokus in there. I think he does things at times to mind fcuk the other fighter
Yup, I agree and if boxing is 90% mental as they say, who better than Naz? He is awesome.
If I were Martinez I would hire Naz and Eric Kelly. Have you guys seen this video? Freakn hilariously epic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syhb3z4pTFQ
I hope this fight comes off,I got JCC to win this fight..He's just the lesser of two evils,I just been more impressed by him then Alvarez
Please tell me what fight you have seen that JCC Jr. has "impressed" you?
JCC Jr. has been dodging Canelo since before they became famous in the U.S. No matter how much most of you dislike Canelo because he is protected by GBP, he made a name for himself at such a young age and coming from Mexico (I hope most of you will appreciate how difficult that is).
Canelo himself would say early in his career, "I want Chavez Jr. so I can show the world that I earned my name with my hard work, not my last name."