This is a bigger issue in boxing but Im using berlanga as an example. he is just the test subject on how to create a hypejob and also how to create an easy opponent for big names like canelo to feast upon as they duck real challenges.
Berlanga never beat a top 10(ring) ranked opponent before fighting canelo, here are the 5 guys he fought before the canelo fight: Marcelo Coceres, jason quigley, roamer Alexis Angulo, Steve rolls, Padraig Mccrory.
So as you can see no one good at all, but maybe he showed amazing skills that could translate to the top level? nope...
berlanga vs quigley- Bad Left Hook unofficially scored the fight 113-111 for Berlanga
berlanga vs angulo Bad Left Hook’s unofficial card had it even at 95-95
berlanga vs coceres 96-93 from all three judges, which is also what Bad Left Hook had.
berlanga vs rolls official cards 97-93, 96-94 and 96-94.
So he fought low level opposition and looked very poor while doing it, hes ready for a canelo fight??? benavidez doesnt deserve a fight but this guy does? this guy was so bad that he had to be given a shot before he went and lost to someone legit
I'm not saying ortiz was a hype job, he was good, but he wasnt the guy everyone ducked, that was marketing and his actions show he was more interested in headlines then fights.
Ive already broken down that whole situation before somewhere but in summary he signed with match room then left after 6 months. Thats not really reasonable to expect the aj fight especially when you consider aj and wlad signed to fight during that period. Of course Hearn didn't deliver the fight to a guy who left for a rival promotion, and like I said he lost his mandatory spot to aj for cheating then turned down the fight with 40 days to prepare and ortiz doesn't need time to get in shape.
My whole argument is that he is not a hyped job like someone said, putting him as the best example of a hyped job. And the fight between whyte was never made not because Ortiz turned him down. Google the question and read it for yourself. And yes he got caught using peds.
Wrong decisions doesn't make you a hyped job. He believed everything that his manager told him, I know for a fact he wanted to take the fight against AJ, even though he didn't have enough time to train, you're talking about money, right? He got two changing life paychecks not jus one, Hearns promised the fight with AJ and never delivered. Peds has nothing to do with a hyped job, I don't remember about tje whyte fight you might have a better memory than me. A hyped job crumbles before getting to the top, unless the one on the summit is named canelo, he likes those type of fighter.
I'm not saying ortiz was a hype job, he was good, but he wasnt the guy everyone ducked, that was marketing and his actions show he was more interested in headlines then fights.
Ive already broken down that whole situation before somewhere but in summary he signed with match room then left after 6 months. Thats not really reasonable to expect the aj fight especially when you consider aj and wlad signed to fight during that period. Of course Hearn didn't deliver the fight to a guy who left for a rival promotion, and like I said he lost his mandatory spot to aj for cheating then turned down the fight with 40 days to prepare and ortiz doesn't need time to get in shape.
that was just marketing, it wasnt actually true. he actually did everything possible not to get the joshua fight. he left match room when joshua and ortiz were both with them, he got busted for peds so he lost his mandatory to joshua, he turned down a career high payday against joshua. if you really want the fight you dont do these things. its like the lara vs ggg thing where lara knew he could call out ggg because he was with pbc and ggg with hbo so the fight wasnt possible(unless he wanted to go to hbo which he didnt) oh yeah and he also wanted more to fight ggg then he got for canelo just in case they tried to get him over to hbo he knew they wouldnt have that kind of money for a ggg-lara fight. just PR and nothing more. ortiz even said he couldnt fight whyte then fought some bum on the same day. it was clear he was only allowed on the pbc program. he was probably matched so soft just so he wouldnt lose and would be saved for wilder.
Wrong decisions doesn't make you a hyped job. He believed everything that his manager told him, I know for a fact he wanted to take the fight against AJ, even though he didn't have enough time to train, you're talking about money, right? He got two changing life paychecks not jus one, Hearns promised the fight with AJ and never delivered. Peds has nothing to do with a hyped job, I don't remember about tje whyte fight you might have a better memory than me. A hyped job crumbles before getting to the top, unless the one on the summit is named canelo, he likes those type of fighter.
Boxing is a business disguised as a sport.
Berlanga was never a hype job at all. He was just a C grade fighter who happened to have Puerto Rican parents.
From 2016 when Berlanga had his first professional fight at age 18 (almost 19) through 2020 (age 23), he had 16 fights to start his career out which all ended with a first round KO win in about 5 years.
From 2021 (age 24) to end of 2023 (age 26) he had five fights that all went the distance, Desmond Nicholson (8 rounds), Marcelo Coceres (10 rounds), Steve Rolles (10 rounds), Roamer Angulo (10 rounds), and Jason Quigley (12 rounds) in about 3 years.
Then on February 2024 Berlanga TKOed Padraig McCrory in the 6th round, which led to May 2024 where he had his best fight in his career, a proud UD loss against Canelo Alvarez.
Currently age 27, he hasn't fought since his fight against Canelo but who knows where the Tale of Two Berlangas will go.
basically wilders career. wilder ko'd all the bums they put in front of him but once the competition got better...bye bye ko's. only ring ranked opponent he ko'd was ortiz but hes the biggest pucnher in boxing history by ko'ing 1 guy that was ranked? so silly.
I don't think Ortiz is the best example. First nobody wanted to fight him when he was closer to his prime, second he was winning the fight both times and he got caught. I could give some more examples but Ortiz is not one of them.
that was just marketing, it wasnt actually true. he actually did everything possible not to get the joshua fight. he left match room when joshua and ortiz were both with them, he got busted for peds so he lost his mandatory to joshua, he turned down a career high payday against joshua. if you really want the fight you dont do these things. its like the lara vs ggg thing where lara knew he could call out ggg because he was with pbc and ggg with hbo so the fight wasnt possible(unless he wanted to go to hbo which he didnt) oh yeah and he also wanted more to fight ggg then he got for canelo just in case they tried to get him over to hbo he knew they wouldnt have that kind of money for a ggg-lara fight. just PR and nothing more. ortiz even said he couldnt fight whyte then fought some bum on the same day. it was clear he was only allowed on the pbc program. he was probably matched so soft just so he wouldnt lose and would be saved for wilder.
It pains me to say that you are right about Lemieux because I always enjoyed watching him try to punch someone's head off their neck. I will never forget how badly he was outclassed by BJS. In David's defense, his ceiling was higher than Berlanga's, he was able to brutally KO a notch higher level in competition (Curtis Stevens, Patrick Teixeira, Spike O'Sullivan).
I’d agree with what your saying and yes he was a notch higher
He was must watch but as soon as the competition got better he was on a slide unfortunately
Ortiz was never a top ranked fighter in his prime, whenever that was. He was hyped up as an opponent for Wilder, who was also a hype job.
Have it your way.
I've said this countless times over the years and ill say it again...you don't get a Canelo fight because you're "ready"...in fact, being ready is a negative.
Canelo learned from Mayweather. How old was Canelo when he faced Mayweather? Exactly. He's simply taking a page out Mayweather's book, especially towards the end of Mayweather's career. You think he wants to be in a life or death situation fight with the kind of money he makes taking weak/hopeless opposition? At this point, he's there to collect checks and go home. With as MINIMAL damage as possible.
I don't think Ortiz is the best example. First nobody wanted to fight him when he was closer to his prime, second he was winning the fight both times and he got caught. I could give some more examples but Ortiz is not one of them.
Ortiz was never a top ranked fighter in his prime, whenever that was. He was hyped up as an opponent for Wilder, who was also a hype job.
They built up Berlanga with that 16 KO streak that they still talk about until this day. He is now always a step slower because he is thinking what he wants to do instead of being instinctive and reactive. Those are skills needed when they realized he can't KO everyone but it is late in the game. He surprised with the durability and fought in the last rounds.
I thought very little of him but now I am not so sure he will be a cake walk for Plant, Mbilli or Munguia. He showed much more chin and stamina than I thought he had.
Luis Ortiz being sold as the boogie man of the HW division, on the strength of a 2015 win over Bryant Jennings, to set up a fight between he and Wilder, is the best illustration of this practice.
I don't think Ortiz is the best example. First nobody wanted to fight him when he was closer to his prime, second he was winning the fight both times and he got caught. I could give some more examples but Ortiz is not one of them.
Still Benavidez didn't dare to step in the ring when Canelo called him in after the fight for a face off.
That was a publicity stun like they do in the WWE. I applaud benavidez for not falling for that crap. By doing that he told ginger fvk you the only time I wanted to see you is with the gloves on. He ain't king to be commanding him.
Yup , you got that right
Reminds me of David Lemieux , as soon as he stepped up , the Ko’s didn’t follow and got that Berlanga treatment
It pains me to say that you are right about Lemieux because I always enjoyed watching him try to punch someone's head off their neck. I will never forget how badly he was outclassed by BJS. In David's defense, his ceiling was higher than Berlanga's, he was able to brutally KO a notch higher level in competition (Curtis Stevens, Patrick Teixeira, Spike O'Sullivan).
Fair enough, I certainly remember that, but even then I don't remember anyone saying he looked phenomenal doing it.
Top Rank tried hard. They had commentary about Bob saying how he was amazing in the gym and was going to be a world champion and might be the one to beat Canelo. Just goes to show that looking good in the gym is easy, but it's much harder to do it with a live opponent in front of you trying to take your head off.
Luis Ortiz being sold as the boogie man of the HW division, on the strength of a 2015 win over Bryant Jennings, to set up a fight between he and Wilder, is the best illustration of this practice.
From 2016 when Berlanga had his first professional fight at age 18 (almost 19) through 2020 (age 23), he had 16 fights to start his career out which all ended with a first round KO win in about 5 years.
From 2021 (age 24) to end of 2023 (age 26) he had five fights that all went the distance, Desmond Nicholson (8 rounds), Marcelo Coceres (10 rounds), Steve Rolles (10 rounds), Roamer Angulo (10 rounds), and Jason Quigley (12 rounds) in about 3 years.
Then on February 2024 Berlanga TKOed Padraig McCrory in the 6th round, which led to May 2024 where he had his best fight in his career, a proud UD loss against Canelo Alvarez.
Currently age 27, he hasn't fought since his fight against Canelo but who knows where the Tale of Two Berlangas will go.
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