Joe rogan ranting after Ngannou blow out -UFC champions would beat boxing champs in a real fight t

Why can't we just call it how it is and not have to turn it into an argument of which sport is better. Agreed. Combat sports in general are pretty great honestly. They all have their merits and their own vibe. This weekend between that Saudi card, the stacked UFC card and the Glory HW tournament its one of the best fight weekends in recent memory.

What people like Joe fail to realize is their street fight scenario doesn’t actually exist. There are rarely 1 on 1 street fights and if there are they don’t last long enough to go to the ground. This whole street fight ideal they have doesn’t actually exist. For instance. If some MMA guy takes my friend to the ground I am stomping on his head until he stops fighting.

Not watched the clip yet but I hope he admitted to being wrong because he didn't give AJ much of a chance and was going on as if Ngannou would beat every heavyweight in a boxing ring. Also in a real fight? Maybe and I can see that logic but what if the MMA guy gets punched in the face by a boxer in a real fight? It's most likely over at that stage so who really knows. Seems like he's moving the goalposts; before the fight he didn't give AJ much of a chance in the ring and after the fight he's saying 'but he can't beat him in a real fight.' These MMA fans are funny, like the dude going on "yeah but AJ was really scared." Ngannou lost, end of story. It's not his sport, if it was in the octagon he would've likely won. It's not that hard to get your head around. Edit: seems like these are old clips before the fight.

In a real street football game the 49ers would beat the Chiefs!

The "Jack of all trades" stuff gets way overplayed for sure. That UFC card tonight has a TKD olympic medallist, a high level karate guy, and an ADCC champion.

Yeh and if he could box he’d earn 25M a fight. why doesn’t he do what Ngannou did? He’d get ****ed up and he knows it. Because, again, like I said, he was from a wrestling background, and his boxing in MMA is not good. Unlike Ngannou who is from a boxing background, and wrecks people in MMA predominantly with boxing.

Yeah, I get the tired argument of jack of all trades, master on none , it's simply the best. An MMA fighter can't do all that wild, crazy, flailing and swinging vs a classically trained boxer, he's going to get timed, countered and slept each time. Actually the vast majority of MMA fighters are a master of one trade and well rounded enough to implement their strength. Another thing about fighting that you're clueless about. but my point is that when it comes down to purely hand to hand striking (not kicks, knees, elbows) the boxer always wins This is factually incorrect even in the limited sport of boxing itself. I mean where was Ngannou's famous, bull rush attack that steamrolled everyone he's ever faced? It was nonexistence last night. ​ It worked well against Fury, the best HW of this generation. It didn't work against AJ, that's because styles make fights. Joshua ended the debate and proved that Boxing is better than MMA striking, and that fight will now become a case study for future generations in all combat sports. Joshua proved that boxers can sometimes beat MMA fighters under the limited rules of the sport of boxing. Congratulations. Meanwhile a 17 year old high school wrestler would grab prime Mike Tyson, lift him up and throw him on a concrete floor ending his life instantly. Boxers are punchers, not fighters just remember that.

I never seen any real fight end in a kimura or arm bar. Truth is these guys don’t have real fights because half their stufff doesn’t work on the street. Go to the ground on the street and you get your head stomped into the pavement. Not mounted and wrestled. Why is there always this weird assumption that MMA fighters "on the street" are going to do fucking double legs and arm bars and shit? If you're getting your head stomped into the pavement on the ground in that situation its because there are multiple attackers, which means it isnt a "fight".

Joshua ended the debate and proved that Boxing is better than MMA striking. That was a boxing match not a "striking" match, if it was a striking match it would have been kickboxing or muay thai rules. Yes elite boxers are better at boxing than guys who are considered good at boxing in an MMA setting.

Jon Jones earns around $5 million per fight and came from a wrestling background. Yeh and if he could box he’d earn 25M a fight. why doesn’t he do what Ngannou did? He’d get fucked up and he knows it.

if Jon Jones could box you think he’s earning 500k a night when he could be earning 15m a fight? Of course not. Jon Jones earns around $5 million per fight and came from a wrestling background.

None of those variables would favor a boxer, it would only stack the odds more in favor of the MMA fighter. A boxer is simply too limited. Literally the only way to make a scenario more favorable to a boxer is to eliminate other fighting methods altogether. Untill you basicely end up with just boxing. THEN they can win. LOL. Yeah, I get the tired argument of jack of all trades, master on none but my point is that when it comes down to purely hand to hand striking (not kicks, knees, elbows) the boxer always wins, it's simply the best. An MMA fighter can't do all that wild, crazy, flailing and swinging vs a classically trained boxer, he's going to get timed, countered and slept each time. I mean where was Ngannou's famous, bull rush attack that steamrolled everyone he's ever faced? It was nonexistence last night. Joshua ended the debate and proved that Boxing is better than MMA striking, and that fight will now become a case study for future generations in all combat sports.

Ufc fans like to pretend that MMA fights don't have rules and a referee. I never seen any real fight end in a kimura or arm bar. Truth is these guys don’t have real fights because half their stufff doesn’t work on the street. Go to the ground on the street and you get your head stomped into the pavement. Not mounted and wrestled.

Rogan is a moron. Too much of a pussy to box and MMA is for bums who can’t box. That’s a reality they don’t want to admit to themselves. if Jon Jones could box you think he’s earning 500k a night when he could be earning 15m a fight? Of course not.

Rogan is right - no boxer will beat Ngannou in the cage. Someone just cut up a load of old things he said. Boxing is a sport, so is MMA - they both have rules. People need to lose the ego thing.

MMA fanboy rogan being butthurt. Who the **** cares whether they would get f Up in a real fight or not.. The dude has the mental maturity of a 12 year old. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6IGWxTM0M Ufc fans like to pretend that MMA fights don't have rules and a referee.

What Joe fails to ever mention is that boxing is a form of combat. One that you need to master to get good. You can't blame AJ for taking the fight when Ngannou wanted it as well. He thought he could be competitive. You can't knock Ngannou afterwards because he lost in a combat sport that he's clearly not good enough in. He might know all kinds of other techniques that suit him well in MMA, but he's not good enough in the boxing world to truly compete against its elite. At least not ones that can punch and don't turn up sleepy. Why can't we just call it how it is and not have to turn it into an argument of which sport is better. Not to mention in a real fight, a boxer is going to throw most technique out the window and anything goes. That includes them MMA boys. MMA, has its own ruleset and that would go out the window. It would be a wild swing/grab, knee, elbow and do whatever to incapacitate your opponent.

Everybody. And I can assure you that boxing fans are far more insecure about this than MMA guys. That is why this Francis Ngannou saga became as significant as it did. That's why you see all the big talk in order to hide the insecurity when they realize this is a limited game of set rules where you can only use a small part of your body as a weapon. The 10oz padded boxing gloves saved Ngannou's life. Without the gloves, that last punch by AJ would have put him to sleep permanently.

Btw people acting like MMA fighters are all world class wrestlers probably havent watched MMA for the last 10 years. Yes there is the odd Khabib or Cormier but most MMA fights descend into punch fests with the odd kicks. Thats not because the level of wrestling got worse, its because across the board fighters are so good at defending takedowns (or quickly getting back to their feet) nowadays that it takes a higher level of wrestling skill to be able to get people down than it used to. Wrestling requires a lot of exertion compared to striking so for a lot of guys its not really worth wasting the energy if theres a good chance it will be defended anyway. It used to be that having a good wrestling (or to a lesser extent BJJ) base was like a cheat code in MMA, now you see high level wrestlers getting knocked off in regional promotions.

I think in some instances we can point to MMA fighters probably being better than boxers in "real" fights but take the best pros from both sides and it would be extremely difficult for any MMA fighter to even get close enough against a legit puncher. Btw people acting like MMA fighters are all world class wrestlers probably havent watched MMA for the last 10 years. Yes there is the odd Khabib or Cormier but most MMA fights descend into punch fests with the odd kicks. Give a top level boxer a year to learn a few tricks and theyd start KOing guys in MMA. To even get close enough to a puncher? You realize legs are long than arms right? Never heard of kicks? You realize wrestling teaches you to shoot from even further away, going underneath any potential danger from a puncher? And don't tell me that out-dated "the boxer would land a punch right as they attacked" joke. Boxers can't even stop fellow boxers from grabbing them and grappling, and these people aren't even grapplers. It is amazing to me how you boxing purists can get things so incredibly wrong. Like seriously if I tried as hard as I could to be incorrect at something I wouldn't be as bad as boxing purists trying to claim boxers would win real fights.