I love Beterbiev but he lands illegal punches

A lot of guys with power from the former Soviet Union do the same thing but it’s up to the fighters to do it back. If your not the A side then why complain it falls on deaf ears. People don’t like certain fighters mainly AA and call them dirty but when other fighters do dirt people tend to ignore it but it is what it is. Lucky for Smith he has the right DNA. So some people will care. I don’t. If you rabbit punch once then expect two back. Smith should’ve hit him with an illegal combination then he would understand if not let them disqualify you because the world will see it later. An illegal rabbit punch usually occurs when the boxers are tied up in a clinch and one of them, or both, start hitting each other behind the head, or if one fighter is going down due to a slip or a punch and the other goes after him for the coup de grâce. There's no way you can get hit on the back if you keep your opponent, like they teach you, in front of you.

andre ward low blows vs beterbievs behind the heads

Behind the ear shots are completely legal i dont see the point of people calling it out. As for the behind the head, its on you if you put your back of the head in the way of punches I agreed, there's no way you can get hit on the back of the head, if you're in front of your opponent. Now, if you start turning your back on the guy or bending over pass the waist line, where is it going to hit you?

If the ref don’t see then it never happened

A lot of guys with power from the former Soviet Union do the same thing but it’s up to the fighters to do it back. If your not the A side then why complain it falls on deaf ears. People don’t like certain fighters mainly AA and call them dirty but when other fighters do dirt people tend to ignore it but it is what it is. Lucky for Smith he has the right DNA. So some people will care. I don’t. If you rabbit punch once then expect two back. Smith should’ve hit him with an illegal combination then he would understand if not let them disqualify you because the world will see it later.

If that's what you count behind the head...... Unless it's fully behind it's all fair game. Especially when other cheat tactics are allowed like putting elbow in the face, pushing to create distance, holding your opponent's head down, clinching a lot, and bending below the waist. None of those compare to punching behind the head lol.

Hrgovic throws rabbit punches inside the clinch constantly. Artur throws looping combos that his opponents start to bend at the waist trying to avoid. Completely different. Hrgovic lands clean rabbit punches, it is embarrassing how incapable this man turned out to be, yet so much hype around him. Artur lands some shots on the back of the head. True, it's mostly when in exchange, so I believe most were not intentional, also seeing him how he does, but he must be warned about. Not that Smith would have survived if those were not landed. rabbit punches don’t KO people. it’s the fully wound punch purposely looped to the back of the head that do. Full force to back of the head callum smith was not moving his head at all. Watch the replays Rabbit punches don't usually KO athletes in sports, true - they lay the carpet for the KO. If you KO someone with a punch on the back of the head, which is quite doable, the possibility of damaging him is serious.

I’ve noticed that too, and I’ve tried to watch his punches in slow motion and this is what I’ve taken from it. He throws these weird fishhook-trajectory clubbing hooks that seem to land on the back, side, and corners of his opponents skulls. They look dirty, but it also sometimes seems like the opponent ducks and dips towards him and the trajectory of the punch means it lands there to the back of the skull instead of the temple. In his favor (I am really stretching at this), his high-octane output may cause his opponents to try to move in toward him to take some of the steam off his attack (like Fury did against Wilder in their third fight), but as Beterbiev’s power punches are short to mid-range, it can have more disastrous consequences. I like Beterbiev, or maybe I should say I want to like him, but I understand what OP is saying, and I must admit that his knockout wins aren’t pretty, and they don’t look clean. Not entirely sure what to make of it. Put a gun to my head though, and I’d probably say he knows what he’s doing and is targeting the backs of his opponents heads to do more damage. I’m guessing he masks it well enough to get away with it. Most (not all) of the stuff he pulls looks on the fence to me — not as bad as Wilder in the 12th round against Parker, but definitely not squeaky clean, either. Smith 6’3 tall and lanky Beterbiev 5’11 , much shorter with short arms But he loops his punches Please explain The only way is if his opponent comes down to him ; bends over etc etc

Again... I haven't heard or read anything to that matter from the Smith team... One would jump on it as an excuse, right ? Maybe we'll hear or read from them today, or tomorrow, or next week, or next year, or next decade... Who knows ? ... :cool: You gotta be a hater to actually try to justify how a shorter man can loop a punch The obvious is the taller man must have dipped for the shorter man to hit him in the back of the head Fugh that though , if the opponent isn’t complaining about it because obviously they know they dipped or bent over doesn’t become it become quite obvious why posters here are complaining Agendas , agendas , agendas

Hrgovic throws rabbit punches inside the clinch constantly. Artur throws looping combos that his opponents start to bend at the waist trying to avoid. Completely different. rabbit punches don’t KO people. it’s the fully wound punch purposely looped to the back of the head that do. Full force to back of the head callum smith was not moving his head at all. Watch the replays

How does he reach up to a 6'3 guy and keep punching behind his head with those short arms? seems like when guys bend down and a combination of how he loops his hooks. it's like people crying about ward's low blows when kovalev went in fetal position. Ward was just supposed to stand back, let him straighten up and recover. Funny cause I was thinking the same thing yesterday Ffs , Smith is 6’3 , how can he possibly loop his punches The obvious is , your opponent drops and gets hit , unfortunately it lands where it does But you can’t explain that to haters cause , well you know

To me the method shouldn't matter its illegal and highly dangerous regardless of the trajectory or circumstances. A low blow is a low blow, a punch to the back of the head is a punch to the back of the head, anyway you want to slice it. Except one isn't called because it's the opponent causing it. This is why you're taught in the amateurs not to bend at the waist, because you'll open yourself up to punches in the back of the head and they will be legal. Having been in the ring, I'm not going to stop punching when someone puts himself in a vulnerable position. Low blows will not be called if you're pushing your opponent down, forcing his punches low. We've seen the fighter hit low warned for doing that many times. Hell, I thought these were illegal but the ref said that Fa put turned his head. https://youtu.be/DS0tc-IR1hM?si=-sWKRcT9pXQLRNXB

Again... I haven't heard or read anything to that matter from the Smith team... One would jump on it as an excuse, right ? Maybe we'll hear or read from them today, or tomorrow, or next week, or next year, or next decade... Who knows ? ... :cool:

It happens every fight are we going to blame each individual fighter for bending at the waist and just ignore the common denominator in all of it? A lot of the time they are not even bending at the waist, they are stood straight up and he is arching his right hand behind their guard and heads. Other times he will get head control and literally turn the opponent and fire shots at the back of their heads as they are off balance. Happened vs Gvodyk, Joe Smith, Yarde, Callum, Johnson, Page and countless others

Hrgovic throws rabbit punches inside the clinch constantly. Artur throws looping combos that his opponents start to bend at the waist trying to avoid. Completely different. To me the method shouldn't matter its illegal and highly dangerous regardless of the trajectory or circumstances. A low blow is a low blow, a punch to the back of the head is a punch to the back of the head, anyway you want to slice it.

Why do we require trainers/fighters to bring it up? even if they did you'd only say it was excuses anyway so what is the point? He does it in literally every fight so lets not act like it doesn't happen or its just one or two guys turning their back. He sweeps his right hand purposely targeting behind the back of the head, point blank. Hrgovic is another that does it continually. Its about time referees clamped down on this **** before someone gets seriously hurt. Its them shots to the back of the head which do serious damage, we've seen it time and time again. Hrgovic throws rabbit punches inside the clinch constantly. Artur throws looping combos that his opponents start to bend at the waist trying to avoid. Completely different.

I also think his power is overrated. He almost never drops an opponent with a chin or legal head shot. it’s only accumulative back of the head shots

90% of the time he does throw to side of the head but when he’s ready to finish he throws a different punch which loops to the back of the head both shots that downed smith today were to the back of the head as was the finishing blow of Yarde, Joe abd Callum smith. Gvozdyk was also repeatedly clubbed to the back of the head he trains it for sure

Why do we require trainers/fighters to bring it up? even if they did you'd only say it was excuses anyway so what is the point? He does it in literally every fight so lets not act like it doesn't happen or its just one or two guys turning their back. He sweeps his right hand purposely targeting behind the back of the head, point blank. Hrgovic is another that does it continually. Its about time referees clamped down on this **** before someone gets seriously hurt. Its them shots to the back of the head which do serious damage, we've seen it time and time again. Watch the last knock down again...carefully ... The only shot at the back of the head was when Smith was already folding and Beterbiev was already in motion ... That was a glazing shot and had nothing to do with Smith submitting ... Get your facts straight please ...

Why do we require trainers/fighters to bring it up? even if they did you'd only say it was excuses anyway so what is the point? He does it in literally every fight so lets not act like it doesn't happen or its just one or two guys turning their back. He sweeps his right hand purposely targeting behind the back of the head, point blank. Hrgovic is another that does it continually. Its about time referees clamped down on this sh*t before someone gets seriously hurt. Its them shots to the back of the head which do serious damage, we've seen it time and time again.