Fury/Ngannu did horrible ppv buys

But...but... Fury is such a huge mega star and any PPV successes are only due to him and he could fight anyone he wants and still do big numbers because he's such an A-side... Meanwhile Usyk has yet to do under 250K and has at least 3 fights over a million but he's a total unknown B-side who doesn't sell well... That being said, a rematch would likely do well, but Fury has to get through 2 fights with Usyk without retiring first, and Ngannou has to keep winning. I hear he's taking on Chisora on Dec 23.

A rematch would likely do better. Ngannu losing by stoppage was a foregone conclusion. It doesn’t seem that way now. Now there’s drama from the first fight where some people thought Ngannu won. Rematch should do considerably better.

I think most fans assumed Fury would just make easy work of him and it wouldn't be competitive. Now that Fury has given a poor showing of himself it makes the Usyk fight all that more compelling. I still think Fury's most lucrative fight would be against AJ, but he needs to fight for undisputed next.

Even this huge MMA junkie at my job had no interest in watching it, lol. I told him about it and he never had much interest to watch it. He said Ngannou was a beast in MMA, yadada, but didn't care to see how well he boxed. I don't know, I think some of these "circus" fights are a hard sell, unless you can truly capture the casuals. The diehard fans are probably the ones that wouldn't buy it. They either look at it as a mismatch, or look at it as meaningless. Nobody ever asked for this fight. They wanted Fury-Usyk in the boxing world. MMA fans I HIGHLY doubt ever asked for it either, but I really have no clue since I don't pay attention there. AND so what if Ngannou did better than anyone expected? Good for him, but it really doesn't effect much else. It was mostly a circus show from the beginning. If anything, it shows that Fury should have fought Usyk sooner than later. Perhaps it can be an easier win for Fury if he waits out Usyk, but it won't be as lucrative as it would have been prior.

Not a big number as if boxing pulls that regularly lol. Besides what's your point? How much do you think FuryWilder would've done if it was in abu dhabi? Let me tell you, not much. The 600k+ in a fight in abu dhabi is a testament to the success of the event, he did what the most anticipated fight in boxing for the last who knows what did, at USA. I mean ufc never rarely ever pull 1 million buys and will never pull 4.6 million buy which is the record. So lets stop with the comparisons buddy. A Wilder vs Fury would have did 100k buys if it had a 2pm start time. 300k 800k and 600k ppvs don't happen without a u.s. primetime start. Those numbers would be cut by 2/3 with a 11am west coast start time. That's just a fact. What are you even debating? I already made my point. 2pm start time hurt fury vs Ngannou. They do more buys automatically with a standard 9pm u.s. fight time instead of 2pm. The purses are bigger in Saudi arabia. So the fighter better take it. But don't ever expect big numbers with a ppv that starts at 11am west coast time. No fight parties in the A.M

Fury isn't a star outside of the UK. Ngannou has never been a big draw in mma.

600k ppv buys ain't a big number. That's wilder vs Fury territory. A 2pm ppv will never do 1 million buys in america. Not a big number as if boxing pulls that regularly lol. Besides what's your point? How much do you think FuryWilder would've done if it was in abu dhabi? Let me tell you, not much. The 600k+ in a fight in abu dhabi is a testament to the success of the event, he did what the most anticipated fight in boxing for the last who knows what did, at USA.

UFC 254(and alot of the other events did better than this crap) did 600k+ and it was in abu dhabi, the reason this and many Boxing PPV event "flopped", is because people overestimate pro boxing's popularity, especially the "mega" stars. Literally the only reason RyanTank didnt flop was because it was basically a popular influencer against a guy that is semi popular in the rap/hood whatever scene, it was basically an influencer/rappers gathering, not an event for boxing "enthusiasts/purists" (which by the way keep holding the sport back). 600k ppv buys ain't a big number. That's wilder vs Fury territory. A 2pm ppv will never do 1 million buys in america.

Given this I hope ESPN, DAZN, promoters and Saudis find a way to take this fight off of PPV. At this point, put the fight in England. At least that way the crowd atmosphere will be better. Showtime leaves boxing. Hwt champ does less than 70k ppvs. Sport is in a really bad space at the moment.

I said this would happen months ago. Nobody is buying a 2pm east coast time/11am west coast time ppv card in America. Saudi Arabia time difference hurts United States ppv buy potential UFC 254(and alot of the other events did better than this crap) did 600k+ and it was in abu dhabi, the reason this and many Boxing PPV event "flopped", is because people overestimate pro boxing's popularity, especially the "mega" stars. Literally the only reason RyanTank didnt flop was because it was basically a popular influencer against a guy that is semi popular in the rap/hood whatever scene, it was basically an influencer/rappers gathering, not an event for boxing "enthusiasts/purists" (which by the way keep holding the sport back).

Few US residents watch the heavy weights. Let alone a fight between foreigners. And a different time zone. On a Saturday afternoon when college football is on.

The saudis must be pissed they took a massive L if they are the ones who fronted the guarantee money. That means all these massive payouts for future fights have dried up for the fighters. Nobody talks about the impacts to the sport when fighters are overpayed but it has major negative effects. Guys will hold out not fighting each other waiting for big pay days. Or if they are under a big contract like GGG under Dazn who had high guarantees regardless who he fought, he was happy to fight steve rolls for 10 million, that destroys the sport. I don’t think the Saudis notice losing $100 million so this is nothing. They have spent more on cars.

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Pointless thread. They didn't set up the show for PPV, they didn't even mention it once in the build up. Why does the USA folk have to think that everyone has the same business model!

No one asked for this fight as fury is still active and holds a title. This is not some mayweather/conor thing where mayweather was retired and came back after 2 years. People can see through fury's bs. He lies a lot and insults people's intelligence. Not only he looked bad winning, but he also made boxing look bad. The only thing he did was enable mma fans to act all smug and say stuff like mma guys can beat any boxer.

Well, the time of the fight was bad. Although it started at 2pm ET and the fight was at 7, it's just a bad time for a fight

What was the draw for watching this shlt ? Even for free I regretted wasting my time It was a shlt "fight" Fury has no pride in himself to look like that. Francis being a main attraction now proves just how fcked the HW div is. There will be no HOFers from this toilet bowl era. Maybe Usyk.

Few US residents watch the heavy weights. Let alone a fight between foreigners. And a different time zone.

If things can't get worse for Fury the ppv buys are estimated to be a ridiculously low number. https://www.mmanews.com/news/report-tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-apparently-bombed-in-terms-of-u-s-ppv-buys this fight was staged

Fury is not a big star in the US and the fight being in the afternoon did not help either. Neither guy is from the US and it was viewed as a mismatch. Maybe it has done better in other place in the world.