This(Ngannou vs Fury outcome) hurts the sport of boxing

Time for jon Jones to embarass boxing next

This Fury is inconsistent. He can be mentally unstable If we are to be real....the heavyweight champion of the world doesnt get to have an off night.

There can be no mistaking Francis is baddest man on planet

Who is it then, Joshua? The guy who went 1-1 with Ruiz and 0-2 against the Cruiserweight champion, never fought Fury or Wilder? Is it Wilder who has a long reign against average contenders and almost beat Fury and then went 0-2? Please help me understand, I'm dying to find out who the best HW of this generation is. Whoever has the better resume. Losing to a "quality" opponent is wirth more than beating a bum. Which is 97% of Furys resume.

Couldn't, in good conscience, read past that bit of nonsense.... Who is it then, Joshua? The guy who went 1-1 with Ruiz and 0-2 against the Cruiserweight champion, never fought Fury or Wilder? Is it Wilder who has a long reign against average contenders and almost beat Fury and then went 0-2? Please help me understand, I'm dying to find out who the best HW of this generation is.

Joyce is in Ring's top 10, does he beat Ngannou? I think while some people are getting too excited about Ngannou's ability, a lot of other people are in denial about Ngannou's ability too. If Ngannou wants top 10 opponent, Joyce would be a good chance.

That's not how it works. But honestly, yes he probably does. Certainly that version of Ruiz. People are getting very excited about Ngannou's ability. Living with a dreadful version of Fury doesn't make you a world beater. It's worth a lot of credit, but he's not a top 10 fighter. Joyce is in Ring's top 10, does he beat Ngannou? I think while some people are getting too excited about Ngannou's ability, a lot of other people are in denial about Ngannou's ability too. I think he probably can hang with the top 10 and may be in the middle or lower half of that pack.

It's truly bad. Ngannou scored a vicious knockdown, made the best HW of this generation Couldn't, in good conscience, read past that bit of nonsense....

If anything, it just showed where the level of heavyweight boxing currently is. That's what was exposed or can be taken from the fight.

Francis punched back when Fury punched and that kept him in it. I would be fine with a draw or even Francis winning. I had Francis win the last round too. Fury had a big man with reflexes in front of him. Long arms. Fury can go away asap. Hope Francis fights Aj or even better Wilder.

I thought fury won in a very close fight. Better jabs, hitting 1-2s at will and hitting check hooks on Francis. Francis never created any separation for clowns to scream robbery and then form dumb opinions that boxing is a joke when many mma guys have been getting ko'ed by youtubers/tik tokers.

Interesting comment. Does Andy Ruiz school Ngannou? That's not how it works. But honestly, yes he probably does. Certainly that version of Ruiz. People are getting very excited about Ngannou's ability. Living with a dreadful version of Fury doesn't make you a world beater. It's worth a lot of credit, but he's not a top 10 fighter.

It's truly bad. Ngannou scored a vicious knockdown, made the best HW of this generation hesitant the rest of the fight, had him out on his feet in the 8th and clearly most people scored the fight for him. He was the stronger man in the clinch, landed the best punches of the fight, showed an iron chin absorbing everything Fury landed and busted Fury's face while he doesn't have a mark on him. For all those years boxing fans were so smug about this rivalry. If you told them a decade ago, an MMA fighter would drop and arguably beat the very best HW champ of this generation they would have laughed and viciously attacked you. Their worst nightmare came true tonight. - - Wuz U viciously attacked then and now?

I'm hoping that what this has done is remind Fury and everyone that you actually have to fight and beat the best fighters to have a legacy. You can't just claim it and avoid everyone worthwhile. Wilder lost to Fury but hasn't really proved anything else at the highest level. Usyk has beaten Joshua plus his undisputed at Cruiserweight. He boxed himself to greatness. Joshua's losses pale in comparison to this Fury fight. They've all got to fight. It's the only way you become great. Too many people (including on here) have been accepting of the myth of Fury's greatness. Interesting comment. Does Andy Ruiz school Ngannou?

Yeah they got to keep their competition results, including Fury becoming a World Champion. Yet got a two year ban for PED use. But the two year ban wasn't backdated to when he failed the test. It was backdated to just after the Klitschko fight. Make sense of that. Fury should have been banned for two years from February 2015 and his results against Hammer and Klitschko wiped from the record. That's what usually happens to proven PED cheats. You test positive, the charge gets upheld, and you get banned. Yet Fury got to stay eligible for another 10 months and then have the 2 year ban take effect. It's a very tainted title win. Even more so when you look at what Fury did after winning the title. I'm not sure how even the most fervent Fury supporter can defend that situation. As Fury would say, "it is what it is". First of all, look at his body by that time. Look at Ngannou. Now tell me Fury is on PEDs back then, but Francis is clean. Anyway, after the fight with Wlad Fury sunk into alcohol and drugs and gained like 60 kilos, that's undeniable. Just as it is undeniable how Wlad tried to cheat with the ring, the gloves, with everything, but the haters disregard that Fury fought it all.

This is one way to see it, but another if you look at some punk like Jake Paul who's knocking out MMA guys - that must be even more embarrassing for the MMA fighters.

At the end of the day, it is a fight, not some mystical sweat science like some boxing fans want to believe.

As long as Ngannou is in the spotlight one of the major narratives will be about how much more money he is making in boxing than he did with Dana White. Especially since he mentions it often in his interviews. And this is really more about how unique he is and about his personal star power than it is about MMA. I don’t see many, if any, current champions in that sport that could come come over to boxing and pull off a performance like he just did. It’s not like there is a long line of them waiting to make boxing look bad…on the contrary, everyone knows that Jake Paul type results are far more likely when they do cross over. Ngannou is a unicorn. He is special. At the lower weight classes I cant see anyone pulling it off, but at HW, I mean, Ngannous last MMA fight was him getting soundly outstruck and having to resort to wrestling vs Gane. Then theres Pavlovich who has risen up the ranks while Ngannou has been away and is doing the exact same shit that Ngannou was doing to people.

Its always gonna be viewed as an MMA guy coming into boxing and bringing attention to it though, which is not really a good look just like how the Youtuber fights etc are some of the most high profile fights that casuals hear about these days. I definitely wouldnt take some 37 year old boxer coming into the UFC and hanging at elite levels and being one of the biggest draws in the division as a sign of the UFC being in good health tbh. Also these circus fights seem to exist in a bubble anyway, the additional interest they generate doesnt seem to stick around for actual legitimate boxing matches. As long as Ngannou is in the spotlight one of the major narratives will be about how much more money he is making in boxing than he did with Dana White. Especially since he mentions it often in his interviews. And this is really more about how unique he is and about his personal star power than it is about MMA. I don’t see many, if any, current champions in that sport that could come come over to boxing and pull off a performance like he just did. It’s not like there is a long line of them waiting to make boxing look bad…on the contrary, everyone knows that Jake Paul type results are far more likely when they do cross over. Ngannou is a unicorn. He is special.

I definitely remember your smugness in these type of threads. I can't say for sure, but it's likely you also ran with the narrative of Boxing is the superior striking art, no MMA fighter could ever compete with a top level boxer inside a boxing ring, no MMA fighter could come into boxing and do well while any top boxer could go into MMA and do great etc. This is now your punishment. Eating crow on a world stage. I am not really interested in the boxing vs Mixed Martial Arts sort of debates. I am interested in boxing fights, although? I was not really intrigued by last nights fights until the aftermath. Last night is not punishment for me, I have barely commented on this match up during the build up. And I have not been one of those individuals who make the claim, that Tyson Fury is some sort of monster fighter. Go and check all of my recent posts, I have been highly critical of Tyson Fury's abilities and true form for sometime. Last night fights has more of a impact of Tyson Fury and his resume and career mate, than it does on the entire sport of boxing. Trust me, I am not bothered by the outcome of the fight 'I congratulate Ngannou for checking Tyson Fury, and all of his hardcore Fans who have now for sometime disrespected many other top level Heavyweights and past all-time great fighters, They have done this during debates, or whenever anyone challenges Fury's overall resume'. Note: I have always stated that boxing is a part of mixed martial arts. A mixed martial arts fighter competing in the sport of boxing is not similar to a track and field athlete, deciding to compete in cycling or swimming' On some level boxing is apart of mixed martial arts etc.