If you’re gonna work with PBC, Benavidez is the obvious fight to make.
Had he chose to rematch Bivol or face Jack at Cruiserweight, I can understand that. The revenge aspect with Bivol and the historical significance of winning a title at Cruiserweight is justifiable. However, there’s one guy we want to see Canelo fight above anyone else at 168 and that’s Benavidez.
Also the ironic thing is I actually think he beats Benavidez. He clearly doesn’t want it though, he isn’t willing to risk losing the Mexican/Latino fanbase.
And when you think about it, avoiding a fight could be for any number of reasons and every top-line fighter avoids fights when they have many lucrative options this is not just Canelo its every superstar that ever emerged the bigger they get the more choice they have, if you ask me it inevitable, the part that doesn't sit right with me is how fans automatically think fear and with great fighters that's the last thing it is.
Im not a Canelo fan I just recognize where he is in boxing, as far I can tell he ain't scared of any fighter, he is an elite champion and Im sure his managerial team and influences avoids fights, not saying I like it but I know its real right across history the moment it transitioned from a grudge fight behind the shed into Prize Fighting, Duck is such a fan terminology word I never gelled with, to a fan its fear and the really top guys don't fear another man.
The issue that we have with canelo is, he constantly has avoided fighters, and the matchmaking has hand picked his opponents. Kudos to his team, starting with dlh, you can't call him elite because he ain't, every time he has fought a good opponent, he has struggled and in most cases got a gift decision. He has benavidez and Morrell jr as mandatories, but elected to fight the new "mando" ryder. We see this and is hard for some to praise the guy. I was not a fan of Leonard or Hearns, but I did and still do praised them. No duck in them.
be patient damn, not that long ago it was " he is ducking charlo".....it is not a bad fight at all..charlo aint no h03
The only ''good'' thing about this ''fight'' is Charlo is not old.
Might be considered prime.
There are a few fighters who had long layoffs and came back to have a decent career.
I don't think Charlo is one of them.
This has the stench of a cash out ''fight''.
I am very disappointed in Nelo
From Benavidez's point of view, its risk-reward sort of thing, Morrell has nothing to lose and brings an interim belt which is worthless, has nine fights no real fan momentum while DB is on the verge of some huge fights, I think the whole thing surrounding who is fighting who at the top has a lot more to do with the business weighing up risk vs reward.
If Benavidez was the monster everyone was making him out to be, he would've decimated Plant and would be signing on to fight Morrell just to make a statement. All it seems is he's pulling a Charla and waiting around for that Canelo lotto ticket.
Benavidez before Plant was a 2 time WC with multiple top 10 wins, are you a troll?
Benavidez before Plant was also a cocaine addicted junkie that lost his belt twice.
Nah, the only troll on here is you with your constant crying and complaining that Canelo isn't fighting Benavidez next.
be patient damn, not that long ago it was " he is ducking charlo".....it is not a bad fight at all..charlo aint no h03
Not long ago, as in 2 years ago?
That was Benavidez before Plant. What makes this any different?
Morrell been calling out Benavidez, talking smack about him and his team, Benavidez going to accept or duck?
From Benavidez's point of view, its risk-reward sort of thing, Morrell has nothing to lose and brings an interim belt which is worthless, has nine fights no real fan momentum while DB is on the verge of some huge fights, I think the whole thing surrounding who is fighting who at the top has a lot more to do with the business weighing up risk vs reward.
That was Benavidez before Plant. What makes this any different?
Morrell been calling out Benavidez, talking smack about him and his team, Benavidez going to accept or duck?
Benavidez before Plant was a 2 time WC with multiple top 10 wins, are you a troll?
How are you the 3rd best in a division without a single top 10 win?
As for Andrade being active. 1 fight in 2 years is not active.
That was Benavidez before Plant. What makes this any different?
Morrell been calling out Benavidez, talking smack about him and his team, Benavidez going to accept or duck?
Benavidez is ducking Morrell. Morrell is the 3rd best in the division. It’s already almost guaranteed Canelo is fighting Charlo. So Benavidez needs to fight Morrell who has been calling him out. If he doesn’t fight him this year, then he too will be labeled a coward and a duck.
How are you the 3rd best in a division without a single top 10 win?
As for Andrade being active. 1 fight in 2 years is not active.
Big fights often don't happen for various reasons, but I can't think of one legit reason the Benavidez fight couldnt happen while Charlo could. If you can't offer any explanations then fear is all that's left right? So give us the plausible explanations.
If you think boxers never fear another man, then you have a romantic view of boxers. They are humans with emotions like anyone else.
Most likely a haymon move as Charlo been sitting on the shelf waiting on this guy..... benavidez a fool to face a killer imo he should be next, if canelo walks away with a victory
So Benavidez who is the no1 contender who earned the shot has to wait 18months while 2 inactive fighters get the shot ahead of him just to appease Canelo? That is whats wrong with the sport. Nobody wants to see charlo or andrade or anyone other than Canelo Benavidez yet Canelo is zig zagging all over the place, even trying to go after Jack.
He will retire before he gets to benavidez, he is just hoping Benavidez moves to 175 and leaves him alone. Biggest coward I have ever seen in my life.
Benavidez is ducking Morrell. Morrell is the 3rd best in the division. It’s already almost guaranteed Canelo is fighting Charlo. So Benavidez needs to fight Morrell who has been calling him out. If he doesn’t fight him this year, then he too will be labeled a coward and a duck.
If you’re gonna work with PBC, Benavidez is the obvious fight to make.
Had he chose to rematch Bivol or face Jack at Cruiserweight, I can understand that. The revenge aspect with Bivol and the historical significance of winning a title at Cruiserweight is justifiable. However, there’s one guy we want to see Canelo fight above anyone else at 168 and that’s Benavidez.
Also the ironic thing is I actually think he beats Benavidez. He clearly doesn’t want it though, he isn’t willing to risk losing the Mexican/Latino fanbase.
I think Canelo will lose both of those fights. He might win on the scorecards but he is very low pinch output usually. Either he loses or sqeeks past them
So Benavidez who is the no1 contender who earned the shot has to wait 18months while 2 inactive fighters get the shot ahead of him just to appease Canelo? That is whats wrong with the sport. Nobody wants to see charlo or andrade or anyone other than Canelo Benavidez yet Canelo is zig zagging all over the place, even trying to go after Jack.
He will retire before he gets to benavidez, he is just hoping Benavidez moves to 175 and leaves him alone. Biggest coward I have ever seen in my life.
Don't worry, Benavidez is not going to 175 because then he'd have to face Bivol or Beterbiev to be someone instead of a smaller almost washed Canelo so he'll be sticking around 168 even if he looks like a zombie making the weight, waiting for that payday.
You can only duck someone if they are a ordered mandatory? lol. I love it how fan boys tailor rules to suit their agenda. A duck is if you avoid the toughest fight that is in front of you for an easier fight, regardless if you are ordered, and that is what Canelo is doing by fighting an inactive middleweight rather than the number 1 ranked contender in his division. Blatant duck.
A Benavidez fight would be the biggest PPV available for Canelo, plus it would add to his legacy to take out a young prime killer something Canelo has never done in his entire career of cherry picky euro bums or old men.
Lastly im pretty sure fighting Benavidez would count as clearing a mandatory since Benavidez is his mandatory just not ordered yet. Anyone with a brain know he is ducking Benavidez and has for a long time. Defending a blatant ducker who refuses to give a young fighter his earned shot and instead giving to an inactive middleweight is disgraceful.
Well, gee…I hope Benavidez fights Morrell then. Cause if not…:rolleyes:
So Benavidez who is the no1 contender who earned the shot has to wait 18months while 2 inactive fighters get the shot ahead of him just to appease Canelo? That is whats wrong with the sport. Nobody wants to see charlo or andrade or anyone other than Canelo Benavidez yet Canelo is zig zagging all over the place, even trying to go after Jack.
He will retire before he gets to benavidez, he is just hoping Benavidez moves to 175 and leaves him alone. Biggest coward I have ever seen in my life.
Charlo is definitely inactive, but Demetrius isn’t inactive. He fought recently this year and most likely will have another fight before the year ends.
You’re making it sound like these would be F level opponents. Charlo merits some criticism, but it’s digestible. Andrade was calling Canelo out years ago, he’s stayed busy and kept winning.
By the way, Rocky Balboa ducked the rubber match with Clubber Lang. He didn’t want any of that smoke.
He signed a 3 fight deal. If he doesn't fight Benavidez in one of those, then it's a blatant duck. I think Canelo fights Charlo, Andrade and then Benavidez then retires. and he beats at least the first 2 and I would pick him over DB as well right now but in another year and a half I'm not sure. Canelo been showing signs of slipping for a lil bit now. He's at the end of a great career.
So Benavidez who is the no1 contender who earned the shot has to wait 18months while 2 inactive fighters get the shot ahead of him just to appease Canelo? That is whats wrong with the sport. Nobody wants to see charlo or andrade or anyone other than Canelo Benavidez yet Canelo is zig zagging all over the place, even trying to go after Jack.
He will retire before he gets to benavidez, he is just hoping Benavidez moves to 175 and leaves him alone. Biggest coward I have ever seen in my life.
That's why it's called a voluntary. You're either really really slow, or just being deliberately obtuse here. Every fighter fights who they want to unless there's a title shot obligation involved.
There's no point fighting Benavidez now, because it doesn't get him out of any obligations that are relevant now. Nothing in your fantasy world changes the rules. This thread is full of people who are saying that it counts as a duck because Benavidez is his mandatory. He's not until the WBC comes up again in the rotation. So there's no reason to fight Benavidez. He doesn't get a belt, he doesn't get acclaim in a new division and he doesn't clear a mandatory obligation.
Your "argument" is some fantasy that belts don't matter, which obviously isn't true for Canelo, and that Canelo doesn't fight his mandatories, except that he's done that twice at 168.
When he moved up, people were criticizing him for not staying in middleweight. Now they're saying middleweight is dead. You haters just love to change your stories, because the truth is that facts don't matter to your pretend narrative.
You can only duck someone if they are a ordered mandatory? lol. I love it how fan boys tailor rules to suit their agenda. A duck is if you avoid the toughest fight that is in front of you for an easier fight, regardless if you are ordered, and that is what Canelo is doing by fighting an inactive middleweight rather than the number 1 ranked contender in his division. Blatant duck.
A Benavidez fight would be the biggest PPV available for Canelo, plus it would add to his legacy to take out a young prime killer something Canelo has never done in his entire career of cherry picky euro bums or old men.
Lastly im pretty sure fighting Benavidez would count as clearing a mandatory since Benavidez is his mandatory just not ordered yet. Anyone with a brain know he is ducking Benavidez and has for a long time. Defending a blatant ducker who refuses to give a young fighter his earned shot and instead giving to an inactive middleweight is disgraceful.
Canelo doesn't care about boxing fans and only about nuthuggers.
The boxing word has finally figured out that's he's just a good boxer with an excellent marketing machine around him..