Not every pressure fighter will be the same I suppose. What category does that leave Vergil Ortiz Jr in though?
The definition of a Brawler, Swarmer and Boxer-Puncher state:
Brawler: "If the out-boxer represents everything elegant about boxing, the brawler (slugger, puncher) embodies everything brutal about the sport. Offensively, they possess the best balance and knockout capabilities due to their tendency to plant their feet on the ground while fighting. The most elite sluggers can punch with power from every angle. Some have the ability to corner their opponents to ensure that the latter ones fall prey to their devastating punches. When it comes to defense, they make use of grappling techniques to smother their opponents and leave them vulnerable for power-punches. At the same time, they tend to be the masters of defensive movement in the danger zone of being punched. They apply subtle defensive movements, such as slipping and minimal ducking to reduce the damage they take in punching zones."
Swarmer: "Also known as the in-fighter or crowder, swarmers fight very aggressively and close-quarters. The entire theory behind this style is bombarding the opponent with attacks to prevent effective counters and wear down the opponent's defenses. Boxers using this style consistently stay very close to their opponent, chasing them wherever they go; however, this requires a large storage of energy and a high endurance. Boxers must train extensively to have the footwork abilities needed for this style. Combinations of movements, everything from hopping to dodging and attacking, rely on a strong footwork. Swarmers must be able to move around the ring to stay on top of their opponent."
Boxer-Puncher: "The boxer-puncher possesses many of the qualities of the out-boxer: hand speed, often an outstanding jab combination, and/or counter-punching skills, better defense and accuracy than a brawler, while possessing brawler-type power. The boxer-puncher may also be more willing to fight in an aggressive swarmer-style than an out-boxer. In general the boxer-puncher lacks the mobility and defensive expertise of the pure boxer. They are the most unpredictable among all 4 boxing styles. They don't fit in the rock-paper-scissors theory, so how the fight plays out between this style and other styles tends to be unpredictable. A boxer-puncher's ability to mix things up may prove to be a hindrance to any of the three other boxing styles, but at the same time their versatility means that they tend to be a master of none."
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It has nothing to with the feet, someone that cuts off the ring and stalks his opponent is not necessarily a swarmer. Canelo cut off the ring and closed the distance better than Benavidez against Plant yet Canelo didn't swarm Plant with punches Benavidez did.
single digit IQ take.
no swarmers swarm as in they stay on their opponent.
Benavidez is a plodder.
It has nothing to with the feet, someone that cuts off the ring and stalks his opponent is not necessarily a swarmer. Canelo cut off the ring and closed the distance better than Benavidez against Plant yet Canelo didn't swarm Plant with punches Benavidez did.
Benavidez is a combination of a few styles.
He pressures for the most part and works on the inside with very short but brutal shots. Very good punch placement on the inside.
Aside from that he is very rangy when wants to be especially with the jab. He is capable of fighting from a distance and has pretty good timing with shooting those single shots even though he missed by a lot on that one shot early on.
Very good guard that covers most his large frame so it's hard to just get a good shot off on him when he is stnading in front of you.
It's the combination of those three things that drains people of energy because you don't ever really get a chance to settle down because he fights from pretty much every range and catches most shots on that guard. Combine the handspeed and it makes opponents hesitant to throw.
Swarmers don't need to have fast feet, they just swarm, or try to swarm/overwhelm, their opponents with activity, which Benavidez does.
no swarmers swarm as in they stay on their opponent.
Benavidez is a plodder.
benavidez is like Andy Ruiz
swarmer has fast feet. they will smother someone. David can't do that because he has slow feet.
eg Maidana is a swarmer. If he was getting boxed up by Broner, he can smother him.
Golovkin can fight as a swarmer too. He smothered Kell Brook, Monroe, Geale etc. chased them down
Benavidez was just swinging at air hoping Plant gasses which that bum did.
Swarmers don't need to have fast feet, they just swarm, or try to swarm/overwhelm, their opponents with activity, which Benavidez does.
Margo knocked Sergio Martinez through the ropes. meaning he caught up to Martinez.
Margo would straight up run you down like he did vs Cotto. Benavidez is a walker. he just walks around slowly like his brother.
Isn't Margarito a cheat though? Or was there not actually proof for the plaster of paris? Mosley's and Cotto's team suggested so.
His record is consistent since he got knockouts at 15 years old and hasn't endangered anyone's life, so I am not sure about this.
Yes I saw that fight. He was a good mover but he stood in the pocket much more than Plant did.
Benavidez struggled a bit early on but he still outlanded plant in the first 5 rounds at a higher accuracy, so I think his 'struggles' are actually being over inflated just because he hit air a few times. Nobody is going to just beat up Plant in the first half of a fight he is too good.
Margo knocked Sergio Martinez through the ropes. meaning he caught up to Martinez.
Margo would straight up run you down like he did vs Cotto. Benavidez is a walker. he just walks around slowly like his brother.
do you know who Sergio Martinez is?
Yes I saw that fight. He was a good mover but he stood in the pocket much more than Plant did.
Benavidez struggled a bit early on but he still outlanded plant in the first 5 rounds at a higher accuracy, so I think his 'struggles' are actually being over inflated just because he hit air a few times. Nobody is going to just beat up Plant in the first half of a fight he is too good.
Did margo fight someone like Plant who was on his bike so much? David is not a true pressure fighter because they just keep swinging for the fences non stop. He is a a presser boxer puncher.
do you know who Sergio Martinez is?
Margo has faster feet.
You don't see anybody make Margo miss entire combos like Plant did to Benavidez. Margo stays on boxers.
Margo beat Sergio Martinez btw. Sergio Martinez is no Caleb Plant
Did margo fight someone like Plant who was on his bike so much? David is not a true pressure fighter because they just keep swinging for the fences non stop. He is a a presser boxer puncher.
Take Margarito, make him less durable, but faster and more athletic
That's Benavidez in a nutshell
Margo has faster feet.
You don't see anybody make Margo miss entire combos like Plant did to Benavidez. Margo stays on boxers.
Margo beat Sergio Martinez btw. Sergio Martinez is no Caleb Plant
Benavidez deep down probably wants to be a boxer puncher 'But his skill level is not high enough, to be a elite level fighter with this style'.
So therefore I would say Benavidez's style is a pressure fighter 'A straight forward pressure fighter, who utilizes his strength and endurance at 168 pounds'.
I am not devaluing the skill level of pressure fighters, because the best pressure fighters are highly sophisticated fighters 'But there are also many straight forward pressure fighter's'.
Fighters like Ricky Hatton, and even Mike Tyson. Were examples to me, of sophisticated pressure swarmer type fighters.
It is going well for Benavidez for now at 168 pounds, but there will come a time when weight draining himself will start to negatively effect his performance.
Note: Before the Plant fight, people were speaking of Benavidez as if he was some sort of offensive destructive monster 'If he was this type of monster pressure fighter, he should of been able to stop Plant with the volume of punches he landed etc'.
As some people have speculated, maybe Benavidez was over-trained for the bought 'Or maybe his less than anticipated destructive performance vs Plant was a bi-product of a fighter weight draining himself extensively'.
It was still a solid performance, really good win 'Benavidez is a solid fighter, but I don't think his offense is as destructive as people try and make out'.
Benavidez will most likely perform better at 175 pounds, but skill for skill 'I don't think the top fighters will be that intimidated by him'.
Kinda of both I suppose? If David can't accumulate punches with a lot of output and combinations then he tends to switch it to timing and loading his shots as shown with Alexis Roamer Angulo or Caleb Plant.
It bothered me that:
-He didn't implement body work in the early rounds and during Caleb's clinches.
-Didn't use his very rangy jab more often.
- Cut the ring until the mid rounds when he timed Plant with a shot, instead opting to throw looping hooks.
Bayless made a difference as he didn't deduct any points for Caleb's overuse of the clinching, groin shots and even let him recover whenever Plant was in peril.
But Benavidez could had also done a better job imo.