Wilder vs Helenius BOMBED HARD on PPV and gate revenue/attendance (Exclusive)

I think Hearn wants to make Wilder-Whyte in the Middle East. I don't know how that works with the proposals for AJ-Whyte II, but I remember reading he was talking to Finkel about numbers for Wilder-Whyte. - - Eddie talk to Shirley Winkle to pass the time of day, not make a fight.

Lol, why do people get so defensive over the money and PPV buys of fighters they'll never meet in their lives? Of course this show was going to bomb, he was fighting a guy nobody but people here have heard of. I like Wilder, he's got limited skills but his power is ridiculous and he's fun to watch. If he fights Joshua, it will do huge numbers over in the U.K. so that's where he needs to go. His career is almost over but he's got a few more fun fights to make vs Joshua and maybe Joyce which would be a banger cause that guy has a chin and a half on him. I think Hearn wants to make Wilder-Whyte in the Middle East. I don't know how that works with the proposals for AJ-Whyte II, but I remember reading he was talking to Finkel about numbers for Wilder-Whyte.

Too bad you bombed at life. And wasn’t this fight like 6 months ago? A little late with your reporting. Let me feel great by correcting you. Looks like the SLDYTC are having problems, the fight was 3 months ago. The gate revenue/attendance report was released the other day.

Lol, why do people get so defensive over the money and PPV buys of fighters they'll never meet in their lives? Of course this show was going to bomb, he was fighting a guy nobody but people here have heard of. I like Wilder, he's got limited skills but his power is ridiculous and he's fun to watch. If he fights Joshua, it will do huge numbers over in the U.K. so that's where he needs to go. His career is almost over but he's got a few more fun fights to make vs Joshua and maybe Joyce which would be a banger cause that guy has a chin and a half on him.

- - Olympian Deyonce fighting Jason Gavern on the undercard of Porter/Brook @Stubhub in front of a half dozen people, ie family and friends was his typical level coming up the food chain. WBC been a GradeB belt ever since Vitali retired that allowed DKing and Stiverne to assume control for further debasement of the WBC and boxing. Blubber gave Deyonce a name in America, so now the poor dear wants to cash out with more than a few million, but Fat Andy ain't gonna pay him that. Nobody will.

I actually have the real numbers and you're off by 10x. It's actually 10x less than all those.

boxing as a WHOLE is bombing at the Gates and PPV Buys I don't know why fans think it is just the guys they don't like Bombing Boxing as a WHOLE has a serious issue here in the U.S. people are caring less and less about boxing and NO "The Best Fighting The Best" is not the Simple Solution. Boxing needs to do a better job of reaching Casuals attention as well as connecting to a younger Demo. Boxers are boxing people, they go away for 6 months now almost a Full Year in between fights and expect people to still be interested when they return. Yeah that don't work in this ERA when it is plenty of other Alternatives like UFC and other Sports to Enjoy Long Time Hardcore Boxing fans and even I'm starting to have Less and Less Interest as a whole. Tank vs Ryan will do big numbers which is great, Benavidez vs Plant should do numbers but once again Boxing will start the year off very strong but then won't maintain it

What are you charging though l both Wilder and Fury have put their networks in the red . And that’s simply getting contracts that they get certain amount of money per fight ,didn’t Wilder almost out showtime out of business so bad they started rejecting his fights on their platform ? Seems like PBC is in a short life line to and they look bad like they are about to duck out ,Wilder is their last grasp I’m sure so they put him on PPV and have the channel like fox pay for it . Lol ''Star'' athletes don't come cheap Sadly, professional boxers are the lowest paid athlete and are almost assured to go broke soon after retiring :(

Plenty , the only crazies over charging for PPV events with fights no one wants with bad cards is PBC . Arums no dummy either he knows how bad this fight did and flip flopped on Fury vs Chisora as a PPV in the states here which was originally supposed to be . Lol Plenty ? I'm including pay sites as well. You can't generate that kind of money on reg tv...at least not that I know of :dunno:

What fight with a notable fighter isn't on PPV :dunno:

Good news, let's see if he finally takes that Joshua fight both punks still owe us that match. better late than never

I have the actual breakdown which I can't post. Some info (Enjoy) Deontay Wilder vs Robert Helenius (10/15/22 at the Barclays Center) Sold - 6,625 Comps - 762 Gate Revenue $1,449,265.00 Seems like promoters are happy making little money now. Their goal is to make a little amount but do it many times with a sure bet against an average fighter. Welcome to corporate boxing. Tanks been doing it for years.

We have no way of knowing how many PPV buys Wilder-Helenius sold and neither does anybody in the media. The gate info is likely legit though. How many US fighters are selling $1.5 million in tickets for a tune up? Seems like a pretty good number to me. We definitely know the pay-per-view numbers from Rick laser who gets them from a media attorney. The numbers are totally legit.

If deonte's purse was maybe 1 million or $800,000 the event would have been a resounding success. However due to the fact that his minimum payday is like 15 or 20 million it was a huge loss for the promoter PBC

I have the actual breakdown which I can't post. Some info (Enjoy) Deontay Wilder vs Robert Helenius (10/15/22 at the Barclays Center) Sold - 6,625 Comps - 762 Gate Revenue $1,449,265.00 Too bad you bombed at life. And wasn’t this fight like 6 months ago? A little late with your reporting.

We have no way of knowing how many PPV buys Wilder-Helenius sold and neither does anybody in the media. The gate info is likely legit though. How many US fighters are selling $1.5 million in tickets for a tune up? Seems like a pretty good number to me.

Deontay Wilder is back to earning pre-Luis Ortiz levels. He became big when he was associated with Joshua. But then that's not what they want to admit. They thought he's become Mike Tyson 2 and the heavyweight has gone back big in the US. You can't make this sh**** up. The awkward part is Finkel and Wilder will now be forced to go back to Showtime now that Fox's deal with PBC is over. Yeah, Espinoza vomited their business saying, "Deal didn't make sense for us," referring to the Wilder vs Ortiz 2 fight. Meaning, they wanted too much money Showtime couldn't afford to pay.

good. NOw lets hope the rest of these ****ty ppvs this year bomb too. It's getting ridiculous. I'm from a time in which only the big big fights were ppv, now we have Charles martin vs Luis Ortiz headlining ppvs. starting with this weekends lopsided SHOWCASE ppv sold as something more than its not!

Wilder should have fired his management team like 10 years ago Imagine having all KO record of cans yet having legit ATG maybe even GOAT power He has been mismanaged HORRRIBLY. If Eddie Hearn can turn a glorified bodybuilder into a star imagine what he could do with a basketball player? - - Y I dare say Eddie turn him into U!!!

No coincidence Finkel is calling for that Joshua payday,I mean fight,all of a sudden. Who was that poster who would regularly post credible attendance,gate and ppv buys here? Don't think I've seen him post in a minute.