they want testing but they dont want their guy to get caught
this isnt horse racing, doping out of camp is still doping, if u dont test these guys randomly all year round u wont catch most of them unless they mess up bigtime, like mr benn here & his advisor in this area
Vada is voluntary, it's like having extra protection just in case the other guy is popping dirty and vada is not tied to a commission. basically when a fighter pops dirty with vada, it should be entirely at the discretion of the opposing fighter to decide his/her next move.
as soon as commissions meddle in it, then vada is just the same as wada/ukad and it means commissions can tamper.
i dont like vada ever since victor ****e waded into the bjs situation.
billy mocked canelo. billy got done for a nasal inhalant 'out of competition' and eddie argued that vada are moving the goalposts on when out of competition begins eg this info is not on their website/documents. under wada and ukad, competition begins 3 days before the fight.
cynthia conte decided to interview victor (she knew exactly what she was doing there, going to a buy who is clearly not impartial. Victor claimed what bjs took was 8x worse than clenbuterol (total crap) and that this out of competition rule is stupid etc. This caused the MSAC to react and ban the fight. So yeh eddie was defending billy to keep the fight. When it fell apart they all blamed him. Billy via mtk and frank warren was adamant eddie was a gangster who set bully up.
eddie's got all the criticism for this Conor benn situation. His side of the argument is 'ukad and bbboc have no say in this, vada is voluntary' 'eubank and wasserman are okay with it, so what do you want me to do?'. Likewise Ben Davis has also questioned if bbboc will end up with a lawsuit on their hands if they cancel the fight.
btw with the bjs vs andrade situation, frank warren had threatened to sue aswell but then he gave up because 'its an eddee earn card, blame him'.
btw i also think its fkin tragic of me to be sat here on this thursday afternoon typing all this when i have a fk ton of work to do. i used to post on interfaith/conspiracy forums before and that was even worse. i figured boxing would be more light hearted and fun. memes n ****.
I’m thinking integrity here. Or lack thereof. Also: Eubank is drained and not permitted to hydrate that much and people, including his own promoter, would easily allow him to fight a roider. Wtf? :nonono::nononono:
VADA is great at testing no doubt, respect to Dr. Margaret Goodman and all at VADA
The issue is, unlike USADA, VADA is Powerless they can't even reveal Positive Results where as if USADA Pops you they shut everything down with no excuses of "It Was Just A Small Trace". VADA should be allowed to reveal adverse findings Immediately instead to Promoters wanting to Hide Results until after the fight so Promoters and Sanctioning Bodies can make money. Not a F^CK given about the Safety of Fighters clearly if you're willing to put them in with a dirty fighter
There's no doubt many other's are on the stuff . Boxing lacks talent already, without PED's we'd probably just see a bunch of Club fighters lol
This goes for every other sport as well .
When your company loses a ton of money when the last ppv falls woefully short of expected sales, you got no choice but to make yourself look foolish because you need every dime you can get.
Yeah the desperation is crippling him.
Biggest hypocrite in boxing.
When your company loses a ton of money when the last ppv falls woefully short of expected sales, you got no choice but to make yourself look foolish because you need every dime you can get.
I'm not really in the loop regarding this fight, but it sounds strange if WADA and UKAD cannot be trusted. We are talking olympic testing agencies.
But if both parties agreed on VADA then the case is open and shut. The point is that this is a binary thing. Either you're positive or not.
Vada is voluntary, it's like having extra protection just in case the other guy is popping dirty and vada is not tied to a commission. basically when a fighter pops dirty with vada, it should be entirely at the discretion of the opposing fighter to decide his/her next move.
as soon as commissions meddle in it, then vada is just the same as wada/ukad and it means commissions can tamper.
i dont like vada ever since victor cunte waded into the bjs situation.
billy mocked canelo. billy got done for a nasal inhalant 'out of competition' and eddie argued that vada are moving the goalposts on when out of competition begins eg this info is not on their website/documents. under wada and ukad, competition begins 3 days before the fight.
cynthia conte decided to interview victor (she knew exactly what she was doing there, going to a buy who is clearly not impartial. Victor claimed what bjs took was 8x worse than clenbuterol (total crap) and that this out of competition rule is stupid etc. This caused the MSAC to react and ban the fight. So yeh eddie was defending billy to keep the fight. When it fell apart they all blamed him. Billy via mtk and frank warren was adamant eddie was a gangster who set bully up.
eddie's got all the criticism for this Conor benn situation. His side of the argument is 'ukad and bbboc have no say in this, vada is voluntary' 'eubank and wasserman are okay with it, so what do you want me to do?'. Likewise Ben Davis has also questioned if bbboc will end up with a lawsuit on their hands if they cancel the fight.
btw with the bjs vs andrade situation, frank warren had threatened to sue aswell but then he gave up because 'its an eddee earn card, blame him'.
btw i also think its fkin tragic of me to be sat here on this thursday afternoon typing all this when i have a fk ton of work to do. i used to post on interfaith/conspiracy forums before and that was even worse. i figured boxing would be more light hearted and fun. memes n shit.
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this was in 2018, it was the first card Dazn put on.
canelo was signed a while later. At the time Eddie wanted to delivery a massive fight in the US and we ended up with Andrade vs some tribesman.
Billy Joe Saunders was actually still a Frank Warren fighter until 2019, He was still contract under Frank Warren for the Andrade fight which never happened. After he got stripped of the 160 title, he went on to win the 168 title while still promoted by Frank Warren
he wasn’t actually an Eddie Hearn fighter until later in 2019
I don't remember the exact timeline exactly but Canelo pops up over at DAZN and expressed interest in BJS's belt. Convenient to kill the fight so BJS doesn't take that Andrade defeat vs getting his eye busted up and Canelo taking the belt. Can't trust promoters and foresight.
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this was in 2018, it was the first card Dazn put on.
canelo was signed a while later. At the time Eddie wanted to delivery a massive fight in the US and we ended up with Andrade vs some tribesman.
I don't remember the exact timeline exactly but Canelo pops up over at DAZN and expressed interest in BJS's belt. Convenient to kill the fight so BJS doesn't take that Andrade defeat vs getting his eye busted up and Canelo taking the belt. Can't trust promoters and foresight.
Only that makes no sense because Saunders was stripped of the middleweight title before the Andrade fight for testing positive . But Canelo v Saunders was for the Super Middleweight title …and…
He didn’t win the super-middleweight title until after that PED thing and he was still promoted by Frank Warren at the time during all of this. He was stripped of the 160 title and later won the 168 title when he was still with Frank Warren.
BJS v Saunders was supposed to be one of the first big fights where a Frank Warren fighter was going to fight on a Eddie Hearn show
This is why having some knowledge of actual contexts matters.
this was the BJS vs Andrade situation right?
I don't remember the exact timeline exactly but Canelo pops up over at DAZN and expressed interest in BJS's belt. Convenient to kill the fight so BJS doesn't take that Andrade defeat vs getting his eye busted up and Canelo taking the belt. Can't trust promoters and foresight.
as far as i know, it was done because Wada and ukad could not be trusted entirely, with the information concealed by the commission and testing agency in the event of a failled test or even the otherway round where they could have an agenda against a fighter and then tamper with the result.
normally Vada release the news straight away so neither party is out of the loop, they know what's going on. I don't know why they didnt on this occasion.
I'm not really in the loop regarding this fight, but it sounds strange if WADA and UKAD cannot be trusted. We are talking olympic testing agencies.
But if both parties agreed on VADA then the case is open and shut. The point is that this is a binary thing. Either you're positive or not.
Why sign for VADA testing and then ignore the result?
as far as i know, it was done because Wada and ukad could not be trusted entirely, with the information concealed by the commission and testing agency in the event of a failled test or even the otherway round where they could have an agenda against a fighter and then tamper with the result.
normally Vada release the news straight away so neither party is out of the loop, they know what's going on. I don't know why they didnt on this occasion.
This is why having some knowledge of actual contexts matters.
this was the BJS vs Andrade situation right?
if i remember this correctly, initially Eddie Hearn went out the of the way to defend BJS. He argued that Billy had passed the Ukad tests and that the whole 'out of competition' rule with Vada was the issue since they allow it out of competition but are now moving the goalposts on when competition begins compared to other testing agencies. He then argued that the MSAC should sanction the fight on the basis that they follow WADA, not VADA and ukad is Wada etc. Yet being american and likely old white guys without a braincell between them, they just suspended BJS.
At the time frank warren was a no show and had done nothing as a promoter for billy. He piped up later mumbing and groaning, quite literally blaming eddie hearn.
This was eddie's response and it included a bit where he started pointing out that he had defended billy the best he could but 'what can i do? he failed a vada test'. something along those lines.
In fact bjs's father later dissed eddie claiming eddie was the one who caused the suspension and that they cheated billy out of his belt. This is the sort of sh** queensbury and mtk lot were feeding these guys. another instance of this sort of thing at play was when Francis Warren was spending time with Eddie Hearn during the Andrade vs Williams fight. Francis asked eddie if 'what happens to canelo if billy beats him?' Eddie responds 'well then it's over. Francis goes back Saunders and tells him 'they are rooting for you to lose'. Bily's dad made a huge issue out of it before the canelo fight.
so yeh, eddie's original arguments about vada and ukad testing where one passes all the ukad but fails a vada test, were consistent. 'they follow wada, ukad is wada, vada is only advisory'.
this is the problem now. vada was supposed to bring transparency but the decision would be for the fighters to make at their own discretion. Vada was used to rule out corruption from Wada/ukad where they could fail you and ban you from fighting at will (something they could do if they had a vandetta against a fighter).
Why sign for VADA testing and then ignore the result?
This is why having some knowledge of actual contexts matters.
this was the BJS vs Andrade situation right?
if i remember this correctly, initially Eddie Hearn went out the of the way to defend BJS. He argued that Billy had passed the Ukad tests and that the whole 'out of competition' rule with Vada was the issue since they allow it out of competition but are now moving the goalposts on when competition begins compared to other testing agencies. He then argued that the MSAC should sanction the fight on the basis that they follow WADA, not VADA and ukad is Wada etc. Yet being american and likely old white guys without a braincell between them, they just suspended BJS.
At the time frank warren was a no show and had done nothing as a promoter for billy. He piped up later mumbing and groaning, quite literally blaming eddie hearn.
This was eddie's response and it included a bit where he started pointing out that he had defended billy the best he could but 'what can i do? he failed a vada test'. something along those lines.
In fact bjs's father later dissed eddie claiming eddie was the one who caused the suspension and that they cheated billy out of his belt. This is the sort of sh** queensbury and mtk lot were feeding these guys. another instance of this sort of thing at play was when Francis Warren was spending time with Eddie Hearn during the Andrade vs Williams fight. Francis asked eddie if 'what happens to canelo if billy beats him?' Eddie responds 'well then it's over. Francis goes back Saunders and tells him 'they are rooting for you to lose'. Bily's dad made a huge issue out of it before the canelo fight.
so yeh, eddie's original arguments about vada and ukad testing where one passes all the ukad but fails a vada test, were consistent. 'they follow wada, ukad is wada, vada is only advisory'.
this is the problem now. vada was supposed to bring transparency but the decision would be for the fighters to make at their own discretion. Vada was used to rule out corruption from Wada/ukad where they could fail you and ban you from fighting at will (something they could do if they had a vandetta against a fighter).
Shocker! Boxing promoter is hypocrite
who’d have thought that?
The difference with Eddie Hearn is for some reason he has very loyal fans who are totally blind to his lies and hypocrisy
Anyway that’s the beauty of Internet videos, If you’re as slimy as Eddie Hearn, It’s going to come back to bite you because it’s always there to be pulled up again.
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