Before tonight Ring had Joyce at #6 and Parker at #3. TBRB had Joyce #5 and Parker at #3.
He'll be riding high now, but how do you see him fairing against some of the other HWs in the top 10 :
Fury:
Usyk:
Joshua:
Wilder:
Ruiz:
Whyte:
Ortiz:
Before tonight Ring had Joyce at #6 and Parker at #3. TBRB had Joyce #5 and Parker at #3.
He'll be riding high now, but how do you see him fairing against some of the other HWs in the top 10 :
Fury:
Usyk:
Joshua:
Wilder:
Ruiz:
Whyte:
Ortiz:
parker always been a gatekeeper
Fury: Fury's stamina will be a problem here imo. He was resting a lot v Wilder and struggled late v Wallin. Joyce is too big and relentless to just box from the outside like he did Whyte, and I can't see Fury knocking him out. It's definitely one to avoid for Tyson.
Usyk: Usyk UD, maybe a shut out. Don't see how much has changed since the amateurs, other than Usyk having got bigger and fought at a higher level. Usyk has the stamina and skills to outbox Joyce for 12.
Joshua/Wilder: Punchers chance. They will land. Will Joyce flinch? Neither lasts 12 if they can't finish him.
No point talking about the others chances, although good fights for Joyce to keep building, so would like to see.
Great post , well thought
I also believe Joyce gives Fury fits all over
Not saying he would win but it’s no walk in the park seeing how Joyce enjoys taking big shots
I can see him losing to Usyk just because he has great ring iq , a little too much for Joyce
And I think he beats the rest with ease besides Wilder seeing the winner would be the first to land the big right
Fury decision him, Usyk decision him, Wilder starch him with a huge shot on the jaw, Joshua have him in big trouble while decisioning him, Ruiz probably best stylistic match up for Joyce would be fireworks Joyce UD
Fury: Fury outboxes him and wins on points
Usyk: Usyk outboxes him and wins on points
Joshua: a much closer fight but I think Joshua wins
Wilder: A KO is guaranteed either way and Wilder probably knocks him out
Ruiz: Joyce possibly wins this one
Whyte: Joyce wins this one
Ortiz: Joyce wins this one
Fury vs. Joyce is very predictable . . Joyce is durable and strong, but his punches are too slow and basic . . . Fury outsmarts him.
The fight to see is Joyce vs. Wilder . . . what happens when Deontay lands the big right on Joyce's chin . . . only one way to find out.
I think top guys will avoid him. Joyce will probably be promoted to the true WBO champ next year.
To be honest, Joyce should rematch Parker. It is probably the biggest money fight he can get.
I never rated Wilder... but I still can't rank Joyce higher than Wilder even if I rate Joyce as being much better. Let's see what happens in Wilder v Helenius.
So he's 5th in my list.
The reality is I'd fancy Joyce to give any of them a fight and would give him a good chance against anyone. Until the day his incredible punch resistance gives he'll be a huge threat. But eventually he'll have taken too many shots... he needs a title fight now.
Fury: Fury by split decision
Usyk: Usyk by UD
Joshua: Joshua by split decision
Wilder: Joyce by KO
Ruiz: Joyce by UD
Ortiz: Joyce by KO
Whyte: Joyce by TKO
The last fight on the above list might present the most surprising outcome because of Whyte's left hook. I suspect only a fighter with a mean left hook can hurt Joyce due to certain tendencies I've noticed from the Juggernaut. Will that be enough without follow-up "combination punching"? Whyte isn't a crisp combination puncher, so most likely not. Still, Joyce by TKO.
Other fights I would like to see:
1. Joyce vs Bakole
I feel many persons are sleeping on Bakole. Bakole, much like Joyce, is a serious player in the division going by his display against Yoka and that he seems to improve visibly with each fight. He too is a 270+ HW with great work rate. This one will be close; I pray it happens down the road.
2. Joyce vs Zhang
Yet another battle between two 6-foot-6 guys. Zhang edges it in both power and fundamentals, plus variety in punches. But he lags in conditioning and work rate, which are in fact Joyce's main strengths bar chin. They both have trusted whiskers. Will Zhang being a southpaw improve his chances. I'll favour Joyce by TKO or UD, more so because of Zhang's conditioning, but you just never know; hence the fights.
Finally, let's not hold our breaths. These are the most likely ones to happen IMHO, in descending order.
1. Usyk, especially if the unification gets dragged. This Ukrainian fella will fight anyone. Joyce is his mandatory and would be called soon enough.
2. Joshua, it is a big money fight in the UK, one Joyce will pray for cash-wise, given that time is against him, of which I strongly believe Joshua will oblige.
3. Ortiz, 'cause he no longer has much to lose.
4. Bakole and Zhang would jump at the chance, more likely Zhang.
...That's it!
He’d only lose to Fury and Usyk by decision. He’d give Fury some problems like the Wallin fight. He’s going to roll over everyone else in the list. I don’t think Fury or Joshua would fight him — too much risk. I could see Usyk fighting him, and Wilder isn’t afraid of anyone but I can’t see a way he’d beat him. He’d just have his right hand, and he’d most likely break it on Joyce’s skull.
Joyce is 37, how badly has he been managed that he hasn't been in the title mix years ago, especially in this weak HW era. He could've easily been the first to crack the hype of Anthony Joshua and earned him some serious $$.
Don't agree with any of the above fully. Such is the beauty of predicting fights and this over opinionated era perhaps. And I just won £50 on Joyce.
Fury: UD Loss
Usyk: UD Loss
Joshua: UD Loss
Wilder: TKO Win
Ruiz: UD Win
Whyte: UD Win
Ortiz: KO Win
He will stop Fury because hes hard as fk and has a chin aswell as conditinioning
fury bamboozled a naive wilder but a heavier wilder with a better clue almost had fury out.
Fury: Loses by wide decision or late stoppage
Usyk: Wins by late stoppage
Joshua: Wins by late stoppage
Wilder: Loses by Stoppage
Ruiz: Wins on points 116-112
Whyte: Wins by late stoppage
Ortiz: Wins inside 4 rounds as Ortiz is shot to bits now. Cash in
From what I have seen, Joyce looks to be the physically strongest and most durable out of all of them. That alone makes him a threat to anyone if you are not able to seriously stagger him.
And people may think otherwise but Joyce has skill in the way he move ands defends. It is just so slow but he has fundamentals.
I think him and Usyk is a great fight and I truly do not know if Usyk can withstand that much pressure and overall strength. Definitely would not be like the Joshua fight.
Stopped by Fury late
Loses 12-0 to Usyk
Stopped by Wilder early
50/50 with Joshua, leaning towards Joshua stopping him because Joshua is somehow the less robotic of the two
60/40 he beats Ruiz, who clearly doesn't care anymore
Ortiz is shot, Joyce walks through him by now
Whyte is shot and sucked when he wasn't shot; anybody with an uppercut stops him going forward