Guaranteed money is the hold up. Not kinahan ties.
Haymon gives out low guarantees to the pbc guys. And they supposedly make the rest on the back end. Just Google the pbc fighter guaranteed purses. They are always between 1 and 2 million.
Bud ain't going for it. He wants guaranteed money and he deserves it for taking this risk. And errol deserves it for taking on all comers
Could be a combination of a lot of things BUT people are watching that Kinahan situation as well and see how that plays out and how might be caught up in the middle of it. Yes the Purses are Listed Low on purpose this is very well known for YEARS! Also well known that Fighters take home way more than what is listed
This fight likely gets pushed back to 2023
The reason why nobody making any offers to Bud right now...
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it is a perception that he is tied to Daniel and Bob Arum just recently came out and flat out said he is advised by Kinahan which I thought was kinda BS and Bob could end up getting Bud investigated by just coming out and saying that publicly but also too it could really effect the fight from being made
Nobody wants to be near that mess when the Hammer comes down, it is word that any day now it could a list of Fighters, Managers, Promoters who could get shut down for having ties with him. You do NOT want the FBI to come knocking so yeah if you're Showtime and PBC maybe it would be wise to maybe wait and make sure Crawford is not link to that before moving forward with any business with him
BOTH want this fight stop trying to label one of them a Duck because that doesn't seem to be the issue at all
Guaranteed money is the hold up. Not kinahan ties.
Haymon gives out low guarantees to the pbc guys. And they supposedly make the rest on the back end. Just Google the pbc fighter guaranteed purses. They are always between 1 and 2 million.
Bud ain't going for it. He wants guaranteed money and he deserves it for taking this risk. And errol deserves it for taking on all comers
One of the Nov dates has a UFC event and the other has an Aerosmith concert. This fight isn't happening this year. No way they try to put it on before Xmas. What's the excuse now? Can't be Crawford and Arum bc reports say Haymon and Espinoza are beef. Showtime wants the fight and Haymon doesn't (no surprise there). Just blame it on Bob.
Why not before Christmas?
Mayweather vs Hatton
De la hoya vs Pacquiao
Cotto vs Margarito 2
Hopkins vs Taylor 2
Trinidad vs Vargas
Pacquiao vs Marquez 4
Tank vs Cruz
All of these were December PPV's before Christmas
I am so over this fight. I think that they are scared to fight each other. Honestly, if all sides really wanted this fight it would have happened by now.
If it doesn’t happen now I don’t think it ever happens.
Spence probably fights Thurman then moves up to 154 next year.
Who else is there for Bud to fight that can make a splash?
The fight won't be announced until after Wilder's fight is announced.
PBC PPV schedule:
September - Andy Ruiz
October - Deontay Wilder
November - Errol Spence
December - Tank Davis
They're not going to announce the November PPV until at least a couple weeks after they announce the October PPV.
Et voila ... a couple weeks time now I should think!
The official announcement should be coming any day now. Rumors have it that the bout is tentatively scheduled for either the weekend of Nov 12 or the 19th. Hopefully, by the end of the week on Saturday August 20th we should know something.
The reason why nobody making any offers to Bud right now...
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it is a perception that he is tied to Daniel and Bob Arum just recently came out and flat out said he is advised by Kinahan which I thought was kinda BS and Bob could end up getting Bud investigated by just coming out and saying that publicly but also too it could really effect the fight from being made
Nobody wants to be near that mess when the Hammer comes down, it is word that any day now it could a list of Fighters, Managers, Promoters who could get shut down for having ties with him. You do NOT want the FBI to come knocking so yeah if you're Showtime and PBC maybe it would be wise to maybe wait and make sure Crawford is not link to that before moving forward with any business with him
BOTH want this fight stop trying to label one of them a Duck because that doesn't seem to be the issue at all
The fight won't be announced until after Wilder's fight is announced.
PBC PPV schedule:
September - Andy Ruiz
October - Deontay Wilder
November - Errol Spence
December - Tank Davis
They're not going to announce the November PPV until at least a couple weeks after they announce the October PPV.
PBC has the tendency just to announce the fight when it actually gets made. They don't really negotiate via the media like Arum, Hearn and ODLH does.
But on the other hand this is taking too long and usually that is not a good sign.
Spencer? Is it that hard to get the guy's name right? Errol Spence Jr.
THERE'S NO F**KING R IN SPENCE
Yeah that is how you tell the mentally challenged folks from the rest of us. They say things like “Spencer” perhaps thinking it is funny when clearly nobody thinks it’s funny.
Bud and spence need to fight. A claim to being a top 3 pfp can't be achieved without it.
Certainly not with predators like nelo, usyk and inoyue operating
One of the Nov dates has a UFC event and the other has an Aerosmith concert. This fight isn't happening this year. No way they try to put it on before Xmas. What's the excuse now? Can't be Crawford and Arum bc reports say Haymon and Espinoza are beef. Showtime wants the fight and Haymon doesn't (no surprise there). Just blame it on Bob.
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