The Truth About P4P and Race in Boxing

You think we're stupid You only root for him because he's facing canelo. Blacks have been attacking Asians all over the country due to race hate.. facts. That’s funny you say that. There was a white guy in Atlanta last year that shot up all those massage parlors killing like 8 people. What was that Asian love?

P4P is nonsense, charlo himself said so last night, it's about being the best in your division or at least one of the best.

Stupid post. Makes you sound as if you know nothing about boxing but know something about Agendas. I like Crawford, but you have to be honest. If you think Usyk didn't look good at heavyweight, let's talk about Crawford being dropped by Mean Machine. Let's talk about Crawford struggling against a one legged Benavidez. How about Crawford losing to Porter until he got the KO. Right? Let's talk about Crawfords undisputed run, where everyone guy he fought for undisputed went on a losing streak, only winning fights previously because they were fighting bums. However, Usyk's undisputed run is different. Every guy he fought has gone on to win their fights, only having lost to Usyk. That tells you a lot just right there. There's not comparison man. Usyk rightfully is number one in the P4P rankings. If you can't see that, then you have issues. I actually agree with the part that crawford was losing or at the very least razor thin close against porter before the stoppage, which is why I don't understand why people feel like charlo or spence is such a easy fights for crawford. Walk in the parks......I don't get it. But crawford showed grit and took out porter at the end. Before Usyk took on Joshua he looked like trash at heavyweight. Me personally I have never been big on Joshua from the very beginning. But its a good win for Usyk considering he was moving up. But let's not pretend Joshua isn't 1 for 1 with andy and hasn't been beaten to a pulp by a out of shape short fat ruiz. Again. The win is good due to the fact that Usyk was coming up.....its a good win. Also I gave you the criteria of what p4p is baised on. Usyk don't have as many champions on his record, nore longevity. And crawford has never had a disputed gift......I feel like Briedis beat Usyk (not a close fight but beat him) Crawford don't have disputed fights nore gift fights on his record as such. Crawford has conquered 135 140 and half way 147 mobie dick is left which i think is actually a 50 50. Against all things considered Usyk is not 1. With the createra I gave i see you guys have quickly stopped saying that fury is p4p 1 (which is the most stupidest ish have ever heard in my life) at least u are getting sensible.

Lies, lies and more lies. Crawford was never dropped by the mean machine. Never struggled against the undefeated Benavdiez, who was actually the more touted of the 2 Benavidez brothers coming up the amateurs. You call him 1 legged but going into the fight he was talking all this big **** about how he was 100% and had been begging for the crawford fight for years insisting he would beat his ass. The first few rounds were close, but he adjusted and produced a boxing masterclass rounds 7-12. And this was against a guy FOUR INCHES TALLER THAN HIM, you give Canelo all this credit for fighting taller guys, but Bud completely took away his height advantage. And you still **** on this win. Now let's talk about Porter, the man who Spence went life and death with, and the Bud haters he insisted he fight to earn a fight with Spence. Even though we told y'all he'd stop him. Yeah, that's what happened. But somehow he was a bum when Bud fought him but a killer when spence fought him. Here's a video proving once and for all Bud was never dropped or even hurt vs mean machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENFGj0__ZC0 You miss the point. The point is just like it sounds dumb criticizing Bud for fights he won, it sounds just as stupid criticizing Usyk for fights he won, with is what the poster I replied to was doing. That was the point.

P4P is....P4P. its not what it means to me nore you. Its exactly what it sounds like, P4P. Historically heavyweights don't rank in P4P, Which means that you are winging it and just overall reaching. P4P is how good a fighter is stacked up relative to his weight......thats literally what it is. 2nd is resume, consistency, unifications, undisputed, names. So on so fourth. Even then, fury doesn't have anywhere near the consistency, undisputed, nore names in a consistent pattern to be deemed p4p anything. Usyk at 19 fights has done well in one weight and has one good win in joshua at heavyweight & i like Usyk, but before Joshua he looked like complete trash at heavyweight. Crawford has taken apart 135 140 and half way taken apart 147 already. Again, It proves the orginal TS point right. If u are still arguing who is p4p 1 there is litreally nothing left to say..... OK I disagree with you

You think we're stupid You only root for him because he's facing canelo. Blacks have been attacking Asians all over the country due to race hate.. facts. For someone who cries racism at every opportunity, you sure promote racism.

Yet it's you guys who are the most racist people around. Ask Asian hate. The straight up most racist motherphucker on NSB is YOU!

Stupid post. Makes you sound as if you know nothing about boxing but know something about Agendas. I like Crawford, but you have to be honest. If you think Usyk didn't look good at heavyweight, let's talk about Crawford being dropped by Mean Machine. Let's talk about Crawford struggling against a one legged Benavidez. How about Crawford losing to Porter until he got the KO. Right? Let's talk about Crawfords undisputed run, where everyone guy he fought for undisputed went on a losing streak, only winning fights previously because they were fighting bums. However, Usyk's undisputed run is different. Every guy he fought has gone on to win their fights, only having lost to Usyk. That tells you a lot just right there. There's not comparison man. Usyk rightfully is number one in the P4P rankings. If you can't see that, then you have issues. Lies, lies and more lies. Crawford was never dropped by the mean machine. Never struggled against the undefeated Benavdiez, who was actually the more touted of the 2 Benavidez brothers coming up the amateurs. You call him 1 legged but going into the fight he was talking all this big shit about how he was 100% and had been begging for the crawford fight for years insisting he would beat his ass. The first few rounds were close, but he adjusted and produced a boxing masterclass rounds 7-12. And this was against a guy FOUR INCHES TALLER THAN HIM, you give Canelo all this credit for fighting taller guys, but Bud completely took away his height advantage. And you still shit on this win. Now let's talk about Porter, the man who Spence went life and death with, and the Bud haters he insisted he fight to earn a fight with Spence. Even though we told y'all he'd stop him. Yeah, that's what happened. But somehow he was a bum when Bud fought him but a killer when spence fought him. Here's a video proving once and for all Bud was never dropped or even hurt vs mean machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENFGj0__ZC0

You think we're stupid You only root for him because he's facing canelo. Blacks have been attacking Asians all over the country due to race hate.. facts. No I was rooting for him a long time ago, even you remember that, you were the one calling him a bum

P4P is....P4P. its not what it means to me nore you. Its exactly what it sounds like, P4P. Historically heavyweights don't rank in P4P, Which means that you are winging it and just overall reaching. P4P is how good a fighter is stacked up relative to his weight......thats literally what it is. 2nd is resume, consistency, unifications, undisputed, names. So on so fourth. Even then, fury doesn't have anywhere near the consistency, undisputed, nore names in a consistent pattern to be deemed p4p anything. Usyk at 19 fights has done well in one weight and has one good win in joshua at heavyweight & i like Usyk, but before Joshua he looked like complete trash at heavyweight. Crawford has taken apart 135 140 and half way taken apart 147 already. Again, It proves the orginal TS point right. If u are still arguing who is p4p 1 there is litreally nothing left to say..... Stupid post. Makes you sound as if you know nothing about boxing but know something about Agendas. I like Crawford, but you have to be honest. If you think Usyk didn't look good at heavyweight, let's talk about Crawford being dropped by Mean Machine. Let's talk about Crawford struggling against a one legged Benavidez. How about Crawford losing to Porter until he got the KO. Right? Let's talk about Crawfords undisputed run, where everyone guy he fought for undisputed went on a losing streak, only winning fights previously because they were fighting bums. However, Usyk's undisputed run is different. Every guy he fought has gone on to win their fights, only having lost to Usyk. That tells you a lot just right there. There's not comparison man. Usyk rightfully is number one in the P4P rankings. If you can't see that, then you have issues.

Lol I literally asked you what pfp meant to you, and then I explained what it meant to me. Anyone butthurt that someone has Fury above Crawford is just a little bit.ch in my eyes. An honest man could have it vice versa, that's a solid opinion too, but not too many honest men around here. Also I said Usyk/Crawford would be after Fury. I never listed either at 2/3. Anyway, cry about it, idgaf P4P is....P4P. its not what it means to me nore you. Its exactly what it sounds like, P4P. Historically heavyweights don't rank in P4P, Which means that you are winging it and just overall reaching. P4P is how good a fighter is stacked up relative to his weight......thats literally what it is. 2nd is resume, consistency, unifications, undisputed, names. So on so fourth. Even then, fury doesn't have anywhere near the consistency, undisputed, nore names in a consistent pattern to be deemed p4p anything. Usyk at 19 fights has done well in one weight and has one good win in joshua at heavyweight & i like Usyk, but before Joshua he looked like complete trash at heavyweight. Crawford has taken apart 135 140 and half way taken apart 147 already. Again, It proves the orginal TS point right. If u are still arguing who is p4p 1 there is litreally nothing left to say.....

Yet it's you guys who are the most racist people around. Ask Asian hate. Dmitry Bivol is half asian and we were the ones long ago saying that we liked him because he had class, wasn't a narcissistic jerk like canelo, Kovalev, ggg, it was you calling him a bum that was ducking zurdo.

I have no problem with Usyk ranked above him for now but the winner of Crawford vs. Spence has to be p4p 1. Usyk came very close to losing to both Breideis and Chisora. AJ is an overrated bodybuilder. He's more interested in showing off his delts on social media than boxing. I never felt Usyk was in danger of losing against Breidis. Neither Chisora. The winner of the Spence fight has a solid argument for being number 1 I agree

Another great video by the great Bruce Vane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ptiDko2FE - - I only watch good fights with sound off, not morons and moron wannabees.

Usyk should definitely be higher then Crawford. Winning the WBSS and then going up to HW and beat AJ for 3 of the belts is more impressive than anything Crawford has done. I have no problem with Usyk ranked above him for now but the winner of Crawford vs. Spence has to be p4p 1. Usyk came very close to losing to both Breideis and Chisora. AJ is an overrated bodybuilder. He's more interested in showing off his delts on social media than boxing.

Usyk should definitely be higher then Crawford. Winning the WBSS and then going up to HW and beat AJ for 3 of the belts is more impressive than anything Crawford has done.

And Thats all i needed to know, It proves the point........u have fury and usyk over Crawford? Historcally heavyweights aren't even in pfp. Not to mention that usyk nore fury have done anywhere near what Crawford has done cereer for cereer and pfp. You just proved everything that the ts was stating.......all I needed to know. Lol I literally asked you what pfp meant to you, and then I explained what it meant to me. Anyone butthurt that someone has Fury above Crawford is just a little bit.ch in my eyes. An honest man could have it vice versa, that's a solid opinion too, but not too many honest men around here. Also I said Usyk/Crawford would be after Fury. I never listed either at 2/3. Anyway, cry about it, idgaf

Man I don't even know what pfp means to different people. For me it means who are the 10 best fighters out there regardless of weight. If you can even account for something like that. I don't watch anyone south of 130 pounds so I can't comment on those guys. The most proven talented fighters, at their current level, for me are something like Usyk, Fury, Crawford, top 3. Then I would have an assortment of guys in the next group, who all have little asterisks imo - Canelo, Loma, Shakur, Spence, GGG, Beterbiev, Bivol, Jermell. The final crew would be guys who could be top 10 but I don't quite know enough yet - Tank, Ryan Garcia, Teo, Josh Taylor, Jermall, Andrade. If I had to pick a number 1, it is Fury right now. To me he has been the most impressive and I think he is the best fighter on the planet. My top 3 are pretty solidly Fury, and then either Usyk or Crawford. And Thats all i needed to know, It proves the point........u have fury and usyk over Crawford? Historcally heavyweights aren't even in pfp. Not to mention that usyk nore fury have done anywhere near what Crawford has done cereer for cereer and pfp. You just proved everything that the ts was stating.......all I needed to know.

Yea....but all pride to the side. Canelo should have never even been p4p 1........he has too many gifts inconsistences and even popped dirty lol the guy should have never been 1 over crawford. So who do u have as 1 now? Man I don't even know what pfp means to different people. For me it means who are the 10 best fighters out there regardless of weight. If you can even account for something like that. I don't watch anyone south of 130 pounds so I can't comment on those guys. The most proven talented fighters, at their current level, for me are something like Usyk, Fury, Crawford, top 3. Then I would have an assortment of guys in the next group, who all have little asterisks imo - Canelo, Loma, Shakur, Spence, GGG, Beterbiev, Bivol, Jermell. The final crew would be guys who could be top 10 but I don't quite know enough yet - Tank, Ryan Garcia, Teo, Josh Taylor, Jermall, Andrade. If I had to pick a number 1, it is Fury right now. To me he has been the most impressive and I think he is the best fighter on the planet. My top 3 are pretty solidly Fury, and then either Usyk or Crawford.

I listened to about 30 seconds and it was all I could take. Canelo lost to the 2nd best guy at 175 via decision. 5 years ago he was fighting at 154. He was just undisputed at 168 (some smoke and mirrors imo but still). Crawford is one of the best as well, but to say he is clearly ahead of Canelo and should have been, just because Canelo lost to Bivol, is crazy. It would be like saying Crawford sucks etc if he lost to Charlo at 154 or GGG/Charlo at 160. Yea....but all pride to the side. Canelo should have never even been p4p 1........he has too many gifts inconsistences and even popped dirty lol the guy should have never been 1 over crawford. So who do u have as 1 now?