Let's be real, as far as size goes Bivol isn't much bigger than most people Canelo has faced lately. He's smaller than Mundo. It wasn't all size that won him that fight.
Big enough to fight in another division. Let's not reach here. Bivol might not be a huge 175 pounder, but he is not small for the division. He is big for 168 and he belongs in 175.
So, he's bigger enough than Plant and others.
Bivol is smaller than most top Super Middleweights.
Bivol is a medium/small Super Middleweight campaigning at 175lbs.
When Bivol fought Pascal, Bivol rehydrated to 181lbs.
Bivol rehydrated to 183lbs when he faced Canelo,
Bivol says he never weighs more than 185lbs in the ring.
Bivol ~183lbs
175lbers
Bivol 183lbs
Pascal 185lbs
Kovalev 189lbs
Benavidez 189lbs
Morrell 190lbs
Kalajdzic 191.6lbs
Zurdo Ramirez 203lbs
168lbers
Andrade 190lbs
Nelson 193lbs
Morrell weighed 190lbs for his light heavyweight debut.
Benavidez weighed 189lbs for his light heavyweight debut.
Zurdo Ramirez 203lbs for his fight at light heavyweight against Boesel.
Radivoje Kalajdzic weighed in at 191.6lbs for his light heavyweight fight against Morrell.
Steve Nelson weighed 193lbs for his super middleweight fight against Marcos Ramon Vazquez.
Marcos Ramon Vazquez weighed 181lbs for his super middleweight bout.
Andrade rehydrated to 190lbs for his super middleweight bout against Benavidez.
Kovalev weighed 189lbs for his 2015 fight vs Pascal at light heavyweight.
Pascal weighed 185lbs when he fought Kovalev at light heavyweight.
He is not going to be a better fighter at 168 pounds. That is a fact.
He will make the weight, but he will not be a better fighter.
Alvarez is probably going to be a better fighter at 168 pounds.
I just think the fight at 168 pounds,is unnecessary. Up to himself, if he wants to throw away the fight etc.
well if it happens it’s because bivol thinks he will be ok and whether it’s at 168 or 175 he beats canelo.......that’s my take on it because canelo will also be weaker and less power.
168 or 175 bivol has canelo’s number
Let's be real, as far as size goes Bivol isn't much bigger than most people Canelo has faced lately. He's smaller than Mundo. It wasn't all size that won him that fight.
He isnt really any bigger than Plant but I suspect he is alot more physically strong and was disciplined to a serious degree. Game plan and execution won Bivol the fight above size
bivol has been saying that he can make that weight for some time and I’m not one to argue however if it did weaken him and he knows it all then he is being stupid.....he seems a very calculating and intelligent fighter so it seems naive to think he would put himself at a disadvantage.
The man is ice cool
He is not going to be a better fighter at 168 pounds. That is a fact.
He will make the weight, but he will not be a better fighter.
Alvarez is probably going to be a better fighter at 168 pounds.
I just think the fight at 168 pounds,is unnecessary. Up to himself, if he wants to throw away the fight etc.
Bivol will be weakened. I don't think fighters know what they are doing these days.
The culture of weight draining, has distorted their perceptions.
He is increasing the likely - hood of getting beat if he fights at 168 vs Alvarez etc.
bivol has been saying that he can make that weight for some time and I’m not one to argue however if it did weaken him and he knows it all then he is being stupid.....he seems a very calculating and intelligent fighter so it seems naive to think he would put himself at a disadvantage.
The man is ice cool
Bivol beats canelo at 168 as well as everything is comparable.
Bivol said he can make 168 comfortably and his size , reach will still be the same but his reflexes and foot speed will be sharper as well plus canelo punch will not carry the same weight as him being 175.
Styles wise he just has canelo’s number and canelo needs to be very careful because if his pride won’t allow him to not fight Bivol then we could very well see him lose all his belts 168 and probably the end of his career at the very highest level.
Bivol is clinical , sharp , great footwork , great hand speed and very very intelligent with positioning and distance
Bivol will be weakened. I don't think fighters know what they are doing these days.
The culture of weight draining, has distorted their perceptions.
He is increasing the likely - hood of getting beat if he fights at 168 vs Alvarez etc.
I believe Bivol makes 168 easily. He is not a big puncher anyway, he is more sharp combo operator. If he drops a little weight that will not hurt him IMO.
he is a small light heavy, his style is adopted on fighting bigger guys. Yes, he would have less power at 168, but Canelo would have even much less power.
I dont believe Plant was walking around 185 - 190lbs on fight night when he fight Canelo, and Bivol knew how to use his height, reach and his style to go in and out, unlike Plant that tries to fight as Mayweather "flashy". Bivol didn't look like he wanted to look nice with his style but to win the fight in any way possible.
183 according to Bivol.
Caleb Plant started his career at 160. Bivol fought at 178 in the amateurs.
Bivol fought at 165 (ammy MW) until late 2011 when he was nearly 21. That's the same weight Plant was competing at at the same age. And when Plant turned pro at age 21 he was likely rehydrating well into the 170s, hell even bigger JMWs hit 170+ after rehydration. Also worth noting that just cos an ammy fights in a particular weightclass doesn't mean they come to the ring at the class limit... the ammy sport rewards speed and technique more so it's not necessarily such an advantage trying to come in as big as possible.
Bivol claims he was 183 in the ring vs Canelo which is probably in the ballpark that Plant reaches... maybe a touch more since my eyes say that Bivols got a slightly more robust frame but OTOH Plants a touch taller. Either way, not a huge amount in it.
I dont believe Plant was walking around 185 - 190lbs on fight night when he fight Canelo, and Bivol knew how to use his height, reach and his style to go in and out, unlike Plant that tries to fight as Mayweather "flashy". Bivol didn't look like he wanted to look nice with his style but to win the fight in any way possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXmdeqc9m7k
Come on, folks. Canelo tried to drain Bivol and still lost 12 out of 12 rounds based on compubox stats. Sweet Cheeks has a bit of swag. That's about it. Bivol stops this dude.
Cheeks looks so awkward pulling off that shyte.
Big enough to fight in another division. Let's not reach here. Bivol might not be a huge 175 pounder, but he is not small for the division. He is big for 168 and he belongs in 175.
So, he's bigger enough than Plant and others.
I think it is time to admit he is just better boxer than all guys Canelo fought at 168.
You got that right Callum Smith let Alvarez waltz into his punching range without tagging him with even a jab in his face. Smith has more of decided height and reach advantage than Bivol.
Plant was boxing Canelo but got tired and then started getting slowly broken down.
Saunders was about even on an honest score card until his eye socket cracked.
Bivol is a small light heavyweight. I remember a while back he was talking about wanting fights at 168. I think clearly Bivol is built more durable like Golovkin versus Plant
Let's be real, as far as size goes Bivol isn't much bigger than most people Canelo has faced lately. He's smaller than Mundo. It wasn't all size that won him that fight.
It’s not just about size or power. Watch the fight again and notice that Canelo COULD NOT HURT Bivol. Bivol was in their with a REAL power puncher in Smith. Canelo and is No Smith in terms of power. It is what it is. Just cause you don’t understand something. Don’t mean it’s not real.
Let's be real, as far as size goes Bivol isn't much bigger than most people Canelo has faced lately. He's smaller than Mundo. It wasn't all size that won him that fight.
7 pounds genius. It’s simple math.
I think when you said robot we all assumed the big stiff Euro robot archetype were all accustomed to seeing in the ring. Funny thing is now that some of the most dynamic fighters today are European like Usyk, Loma, and Bivol (Russian I know).
I just think it's odd that people assumed that - when I outlined what I meant by robot in the very next sentence. But I do understand that for some it has a negative connotation.