Eddie Hearn speaks!: We would've lost a lot of money, Dillian training and waiting for contract

Looks and reads like a troll to me. literally every single thing i wrote there were facts. what was there to troll about? example for that fight to get made. Wilder was willing with Fury because 1) he was at 50% coming off 3 years without a competitive fight and 2) struggled against wallin which prompted wilder to think 'he's done, he's damaged, if i open up that eye again, it'll be easy'. john fury himself has said this aswell. he openly said that wilder cherry picked fury and in the same interview also said 'joshua would have beat wilder aswell'. keep in mind in that interview, it was the real pissed off honest john fury coming out.

nothing nonsense about that point. Fury was the b side mandatory to Wlad. That fight was always going to be on Wlad's terms. Fury wasnt relevant for 3 yrs when he fought Wilder on a pbc show. The reality is that Wilder held out for more money against Joshua and he selected Fury as a cherry pick. You know already that John Fury has confirmed this. He's said that Wilder cherry picked Fury after he saw the otto wallin fight aswell. The point being Wilder had to be willing in order for that fight to get made. Wilder was willing with Fury because 1) he was at 50% coming off 3 years without a competitive fight and 2) struggled against wallin which prompted wilder to think 'he's done, he's damaged, if i open up that eye again, it'll be easy'. Also with aj being part of matchroom and dazn, naturally team pbc/al haymon didnt want to do business with them. You've made out it's all because joshua was scared. it's total crap. the real offers came from aj and whyte. It isnt a troll, i'd expect a brit to know. it's tots tv but i find the picture hilarious. Looks and reads like a troll to me.

What utter nonsense… :lol1: From a guy with a picture of a troll what else would you expect. nothing nonsense about that point. Fury was the b side mandatory to Wlad. That fight was always going to be on Wlad's terms. Fury wasnt relevant for 3 yrs when he fought Wilder on a pbc show. The reality is that Wilder held out for more money against Joshua and he selected Fury as a cherry pick. You know already that John Fury has confirmed this. He's said that Wilder cherry picked Fury after he saw the otto wallin fight aswell. The point being Wilder had to be willing in order for that fight to get made. Wilder was willing with Fury because 1) he was at 50% coming off 3 years without a competitive fight and 2) struggled against wallin which prompted wilder to think 'he's done, he's damaged, if i open up that eye again, it'll be easy'. Also with aj being part of matchroom and dazn, naturally team pbc/al haymon didnt want to do business with them. You've made out it's all because joshua was scared. it's total crap. the real offers came from aj and whyte. It isnt a troll, i'd expect a brit to know. it's tots tv but i find the picture hilarious.

You’ve literally made an account dedicated to bashing Al Haymon. Talk about rent free. :lol1: Christ when was the last time I said anything about Al Haymon?

You don't make sense mate. Why couldn't he lose money on the fight? Because it's big? It still costs what it costs and make what it makes. He'd have no motive to bid less than he thought it was worth - he was absolutely motivated to bid what Matchroom thought it was worth. So you can be confident that they thought it was worth around $32M in purses, plus other costs, plus margin. Bob and Frank probably have fighter costs at a similar level as Matchroom's bid. They'll pay Whyte what he's entitled to ($7Mish) and Fury what he's entitled to (according to his contract). Since Fury signed with ESPN, has he fought on a rival's card? Of course not, he's the champion, the A Side. And would he fight for 80% of $32M with no additional revenue share and loss of control of the fight? Maybe, but it's a reasonable question to ask. I think they're all pretty fair and reasonable points. Not sure why you'd see it as spin. Hearn’s not daft enough to bid a number he would lose money on. He’d also never even consider doing that. Eddie is all about the profit. Since he’s signed with ESPN Fury has fought on FOX twice in co-promotions. He’d have problem fighting on DAZN and ESPN would not stand in the way either- look at the Teofimo situation. Eddie simply lost the purse bid because his valuation of the fight was clearly off, that’s why Frank’s bid blew them out the water. Regardless of what we think of promoters they know the business and they know their margins. All this “the fight will lose money” is just sour grapes from Eddie and his fans because they lost a purse bid they desperately wanted to win.

Bob Arum: amir khan vs crawford will sell 1million ppv buys Bob Arum: fury vs whyte will sell 500k buts (on espn in america). clearly bob arum is out of touch with modern spending habits and promotion. Bob has the backing of espn which is why he can waste their money and then just blame anyone else for it. Frank paid more money to tyson fury than eddie hearn was willing to spend. In turn, Fury fought twice in fights that clearly lost frank money...and then he just went off to america with espn/bob, leaving frank in the mud. you're acting like frank churns out money. Your point on tyson fighting wilder and wlad in their house, is a crap argument. He was mandatory to wlad and clearly the b side back then. the whole rhetoric with fury-wilder 1 was 'we are all united together against hearn and aj', that was as close to an in-house fight as possible. with the way things are now, there's no way Fury would be fighting whyte on an eddie hearn show. seriously rubbish arguments as usual from you. What utter nonsense… :lol1: From a guy with a picture of a troll what else would you expect.

Lol he's definitely living in your head. You foaming at the mouth like a rabid animal. Take a breath man, enjoy life and don't let it eat you up. You’ve literally made an account dedicated to bashing Al Haymon. Talk about rent free. :lol1:

How can you tell eddie hearn is lying? His lips are moving. only casuals get fooled by what eddie hearn says. Hearn a week ago: “AJ us thinking about stepping aside, we can step aside”. Hearn today: “AJ never considered step aside”. LOL this guy :lol1: :lol1: Exactly man… It genuinely baffles me how many fools buy into his lies.

The anti hearn guys are just weirdos, boxing really attracts them tbh, there are fans on the British forums who seem to yearn for "the good old days" of Warren cards in obscure smoke filled arenas, no women in the crowds, with British title fights headlining. They are miserable old gatekeepers who don't like how hearn took boxing back to the mainstream in the UK. It feels like there are more people obsessed with shitting on Matchroom fanboys than there are actual Matchroom fanboys.

Why should Whyte go out of his way to help promote a single bit of this fight, according to Fury 8m is 7.5m more than he’s worth. So go on then champ, you’re up. Also, this place “wah wah wah Hearn never shuts up wah wah”. Then complains when he does. It's tiresome for sure. It's the people who don't like Hearn who constantly talk about him on here, while claiming the opposite. Their forced celebrating of a purse bid last week was up there with the weirdest things i've seen on here.

Whyte will duck the Fury fight. After Fury knocks him out, he won't be able to play the victim anymore, and he's made a career from that. I hope not but this is a possibility. He turned down final eliminators and a shot at AJ, tested positive for PED's and got KO'd by Povetkin yet, "poor Whyte, no one will give him a shot" is still the overriding narrative. If he gets his shot and loses then he's out of the picture for a long time. Thing is, if he ducks will people still feel sorry for him or will he be out of the world title picture as a result? I think it's a risk either way which is why he should take the fight, get his biggest payday and his chance to prove that he's one of the best in the division. Didn't Warren say something about a bonus for the winner that'll take Whyte's purse up to like 11mil? If he truly believes in himself, he should take this fight.

Why should Whyte go out of his way to help promote a single bit of this fight, according to Fury 8m is 7.5m more than he’s worth. So go on then champ, you’re up. Also, this place “wah wah wah Hearn never shuts up wah wah”. Then complains when he does.

Obviously Hearn or any promoter is going to spin things to fit their agenda whatever happens, but still, it did cost a fuck ton of money, even Matchrooms bid was probably higher than you'd expect for a fight of this magnitude. We will see if the fight even happens anyway. I wont fully believe it until they're both in the ring.

Whyte will duck the Fury fight. After Fury knocks him out, he won't be able to play the victim anymore, and he's made a career from that.

I don't think anyone really loses here. Hearn was at a disadvantage in the purse bid because he was going to have to pay the full 80% to Fury if he won. Whyte gets paid well, Fury's side has control of things and Frank and Bob get to promote their fighter on their networks (and attempt to make profit). If Whyte wins then Matchroom will a great deal of control in the HW division. Whyte isnt a matchroom fighter signed to a deal as far as im aware. He is self owned and managed and works with matchroom on a fight by fight basis so yes hearn will probably do the talking and stuff but as we keep hearing sky and ben shalom are somewhat involved with dillian now so if AJ loses what does Hearn have in the HW division. He was so caught up in the AJ hype he neglected the HWs and turned down joyce, yoka, dubois for wardley and babic. Luckily he has hrgovic to fall back on but isnt that a co promotion.

Since when is refusing to promote a fight respectable? On dillians behalf. Its the biggest fight of his career and its not the fans fault that youre having some legal bs with the wbc. We want the full build up. Its childish throwing toys out the pram. Im speaking about whyte not hearn. Hes got the opportunity to be in a great build up a great spectacle. Promote himself to the world as a fighter and personality. Take part in a classic. But hes too busy bitching that his highest ever pay day isnt high enough. Yeah real fighting man! All they wana do is fight money isnt important. Bulllllllshhht

Let's hope there's some truth to this, as long as both fighters truly want it then it should happen. I was thinking Whyte might be going the 'silent' route like Wilder in the third fight. Fury seemed a little put off by not having someone to go back and forth with during the build up and when Wilder finally started talking his shit at the final presser, Fury seemed annoyed while Bob got shook and cancelled the face off. It didn't matter in the end but I think Wilder's approach took some edge off Fury's mind-games/mental "advantages". Whyte loves to get involved, letting Fury do most of the talking might not go down so well during the pressers. I don't think the mind games mean that much at the top level but it makes for an entertaining build up. I just want this fight to happen and am relieved that Hearn is saying they're still interested.

I don't think anyone really loses here. Hearn was at a disadvantage in the purse bid because he was going to have to pay the full 80% to Fury if he won. Whyte gets paid well, Fury's side has control of things and Frank and Bob get to promote their fighter on their networks (and attempt to make profit). If Whyte wins then Matchroom will a great deal of control in the HW division.

Eddie trying to spin things as usual. :lol1: You wouldn’t have lost a lot of money on the fight and you’ve never been prepared to lose money on a fight. When has Eddie ever lost money on a fight in his 10 years in the sport? Bob and Frank have been in the game for what 80-90 years between them, do you really think they’d bid on a fight knowing they’d lose money. They have a greater understand of the value of fights than Eddie has, there’s a reason Bob has been at the top of this game for 50+ years. Then there’s more bullsh** about Fury “probably wouldn’t of taken the fight”, Fury has fought on rival promoters shows numerous times, some of his biggest fights (Wlad and Wilder 1) were both on rival promoters shows. What nonsense. :lol1: You don't make sense mate. Why couldn't he lose money on the fight? Because it's big? It still costs what it costs and make what it makes. He'd have no motive to bid less than he thought it was worth - he was absolutely motivated to bid what Matchroom thought it was worth. So you can be confident that they thought it was worth around $32M in purses, plus other costs, plus margin. Bob and Frank probably have fighter costs at a similar level as Matchroom's bid. They'll pay Whyte what he's entitled to ($7Mish) and Fury what he's entitled to (according to his contract). Since Fury signed with ESPN, has he fought on a rival's card? Of course not, he's the champion, the A Side. And would he fight for 80% of $32M with no additional revenue share and loss of control of the fight? Maybe, but it's a reasonable question to ask. I think they're all pretty fair and reasonable points. Not sure why you'd see it as spin.

Eddie trying to spin things as usual. :lol1: You wouldn’t have lost a lot of money on the fight and you’ve never been prepared to lose money on a fight. When has Eddie ever lost money on a fight in his 10 years in the sport? Bob and Frank have been in the game for what 80-90 years between them, do you really think they’d bid on a fight knowing they’d lose money. They have a greater understand of the value of fights than Eddie has, there’s a reason Bob has been at the top of this game for 50+ years. Then there’s more bullsh** about Fury “probably wouldn’t of taken the fight”, Fury has fought on rival promoters shows numerous times, some of his biggest fights (Wlad and Wilder 1) were both on rival promoters shows. What nonsense. :lol1: It’s funny this clown brings up ego too, does he not remember how his own ego killed the Wilder-AJ negotiations with all that Shirley Winkle bullsh**. PBC don’t even answer this fools calls now because of how poorly he handled those dealings. The reality is Frank and Bob blew Eddie out the water because they represent the bigger star and have the better platforms (ESPN, BT) backing them. Now we’ve cut through all the bullsh** let’s hope he’s actually telling the truth about Whyte and he intends to sign the contract and the fight happens. I look forward to all his moron fans quoting this after eating up his BS. Bob Arum: amir khan vs crawford will sell 1million ppv buys Bob Arum: fury vs whyte will sell 500k buts (on espn in america). clearly bob arum is out of touch with modern spending habits and promotion. Bob has the backing of espn which is why he can waste their money and then just blame anyone else for it. Frank paid more money to tyson fury than eddie hearn was willing to spend. In turn, Fury fought twice in fights that clearly lost frank money...and then he just went off to america with espn/bob, leaving frank in the mud. you're acting like frank churns out money. Your point on tyson fighting wilder and wlad in their house, is a crap argument. He was mandatory to wlad and clearly the b side back then. the whole rhetoric with fury-wilder 1 was 'we are all united together against hearn and aj', that was as close to an in-house fight as possible. with the way things are now, there's no way Fury would be fighting whyte on an eddie hearn show. seriously rubbish arguments as usual from you.