Lomachenko Versus Kambosos, Says Mauricio Sulaiman ...

Yeah. I hope so. From what I've heard from a guy who's close to certain people in the industry, he says what I've thought for awhile, which is that Matchroom doesn't have the money that it used to. Hearn can't throw around the big bucks like he had before. And I think this is true considering Haney fought JoJo for $1 million. He fought Linares for three and JoJo for one. That says a lot. And there's something about Kambosos and the way he talks about his next opponent that makes me think it'll be Loma. In an interview today, he said that "Haney can't crack and egg," and the guy he spoke to said that he believes Haney is tailor made. The interviewer also said that he believes Haney will be next, though George didn't confirm it or agree. thing about dazn is, it's owned by leonard blavatnik and he has made a TON of money in the past couple of covid years. He was worth $20m in 2020, now he's worth $38b+. Dazn base their business on data through stats-perform and thus they are more aware of the value of fighters/fights now then they were at the start. Furthermore, they will have a good idea about the economic position of boxing fans right now and may decide to hold their money back until that improves. An example of this is that British boxing was dead and in a dark age in 2008-10. There was no money in the sport and sky sports backed out of boxing. it took 5 years for it to really pick up. 5 years is not a long time at all. 2017 was not that long ago. I'm not supporting or hating on dazn either with way in this point, im just saying it is a silly argument to think 'dazn no longer have the money' when the owner has almost doubled his money. Roman abramovic, the chelsea fc owner, has spent £2b on chelsea since 2003. He's worth $13b..and that 2b he's spent on chelsea was for fun. chelsea is his hobby, his vanity affair, his art project. As for Haney. Haney was under contract with dazn/matchroom before. Now he isn't. He is a free agent now who chose to fight with dazn/matchroom for the jojo diaz fight. if they're paying him less it's because they're paying him accurately now based on his data.

This is the same as the people thinking Davis is afraid of Loma. It's a joke. Him being controlled and told what do to and who NOT to fight is the issue though.

1. "Lomachenko claimed the vacant WBC belt in a 12-round win over England’s Luke Campbell last August, adding to a collection which already included the WBA and WBO lightweight straps. His approval to face Campbell for the available title came on the condition that the winner face Devin Haney, by way of his interim title-winning stoppage of unbeaten Zaur Abdullaev which came two weeks later. That dynamic changed during last year’s convention in Cancun, when Lomachenko—once again through Top Rank—sought recognition as “Franchise” champion in exchange for giving up the green belt." https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...is-own--152472 2. "Haney’s upgrade came as a result of unified and now former WBC titlist Vasiliy Lomachenko (14-1, 10KOs) being named as the sanctioning body’s “Franchise” champion. The move came at the request of Top Rank, Inc., whom promotes Lomachenko and is grooming the three-division titlist and pound for pound entrant for what was previously pitched as an undisputed lightweight championship showdown with the winner of the Dec. 14 clash between IBF titlist Richard Commey and unbeaten mandatory challenger Teofimo Lopez." https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachen...d-full--143620 3. "Haney was initially the mandatory challenger to world champion Vasiliy Lomachenko, who was elevated to the status of "franchise champion" - which allowed him to sidestep any obligation to fight Haney." https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...-champ--149024 Annnnd Haney turned down 5 million to fight Loma. Dude... Loma's not running from Haney. You guys need to move on with your life. We'll see if Hany will agree to fight Loma after Loma beats Kambsosos. That's flat out who Loma will fight afterwards.

All these articles came after the fact. This is ad hoc logic because nothing was being said about this previously. In fact, this is what was being said previously; Before Haney was a champion of any sort, Loma had planned on fight the winner of Commey and Lopez. Loma was going to fight Commey a long time ago but those plans fell through because Richard suffered an injury. Unfications trump mandatories, regardless. So there really is no argument to be had about Loma ducking Devin. It's ludicrous and everyone knows it. Time to move on. Lomachenko would have been allowed to unify with the winner of Commey vs Lopez. But afterwards there would be an obligation looming to fight Devin Haney. That's why they dropped the belt, to make that obligation go away. What don't you understand about that? It's not that hard to follow. I watched Arum saying this, directly looking at Hearn and Haney: "Loma is not gonna fight you. We'll ask for franchise." Arum's smirk and arrogance told me that he really looks down on both Hearn and Haney. Loma wasn't even present. I honestly don't think Loma had any idea about this crap. Fair is fair. Loma didn't duck Haney. He will fight anyone. He's not with the BS boxing politics, either. At the time, I was Loma's biggest critic. Again, fair is fair. In my opinion, people should let this crap go. This is the same as the people thinking Davis is afraid of Loma. It's a joke. Mauricio Sulaiman says Lomachenko and Top Rank requested Franchise Champion status and signed the document at their convention in Cancun. https://youtu.be/sCCYdI0CDWc

I watched Arum saying this, directly looking at Hearn and Haney: "Loma is not gonna fight you. We'll ask for franchise." Arum's smirk and arrogance told me that he really looks down on both Hearn and Haney. Loma wasn't even present. I honestly don't think Loma had any idea about this crap. Fair is fair. Loma didn't duck Haney. He will fight anyone. He's not with the BS boxing politics, either. At the time, I was Loma's biggest critic. Again, fair is fair. In my opinion, people should let this crap go. This is the same as the people thinking Davis is afraid of Loma. It's a joke.

1. "Lomachenko claimed the vacant WBC belt in a 12-round win over England’s Luke Campbell last August, adding to a collection which already included the WBA and WBO lightweight straps. His approval to face Campbell for the available title came on the condition that the winner face Devin Haney, by way of his interim title-winning stoppage of unbeaten Zaur Abdullaev which came two weeks later. That dynamic changed during last year’s convention in Cancun, when Lomachenko—once again through Top Rank—sought recognition as “Franchise” champion in exchange for giving up the green belt." https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...is-own--152472 2. "Haney’s upgrade came as a result of unified and now former WBC titlist Vasiliy Lomachenko (14-1, 10KOs) being named as the sanctioning body’s “Franchise” champion. The move came at the request of Top Rank, Inc., whom promotes Lomachenko and is grooming the three-division titlist and pound for pound entrant for what was previously pitched as an undisputed lightweight championship showdown with the winner of the Dec. 14 clash between IBF titlist Richard Commey and unbeaten mandatory challenger Teofimo Lopez." https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachen...d-full--143620 3. "Haney was initially the mandatory challenger to world champion Vasiliy Lomachenko, who was elevated to the status of "franchise champion" - which allowed him to sidestep any obligation to fight Haney." https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...-champ--149024 All these articles came after the fact. This is ad hoc logic because nothing was being said about this previously. In fact, this is what was being said previously; After the fight, Lomachenko (14-1, 10 KOs) said that he'd like to face the winner of the December fight between IBF champion Richard Commey and Teofimo Lopez for the right to be undisputed king of the division, but that it's up to his promoter, Bob Arum of Top Rank, to make it happen. Considering Commey and Lopez are also Top Rank boxers, it shouldn't be difficult to pull off, although Devin Haney facing Zaur Abdullaev on Sept. 13 in a WBC final title eliminator might have something to say about that. ARTICLE Before Haney was a champion of any sort, Loma had planned on fight the winner of Commey and Lopez. Loma was going to fight Commey a long time ago but those plans fell through because Richard suffered an injury. Unfications trump mandatories, regardless. So there really is no argument to be had about Loma ducking Devin. It's ludicrous and everyone knows it. Time to move on.

You can believe that all you want. It's pretty funny a Basically you're saying Haney is a paper champion. Lomachenko has no issue fighting Haney. And apparently he demanded 5 million to fight Loma. He has zero chance against Loma. 1. "Lomachenko claimed the vacant WBC belt in a 12-round win over England’s Luke Campbell last August, adding to a collection which already included the WBA and WBO lightweight straps. His approval to face Campbell for the available title came on the condition that the winner face Devin Haney, by way of his interim title-winning stoppage of unbeaten Zaur Abdullaev which came two weeks later. That dynamic changed during last year’s convention in Cancun, when Lomachenko—once again through Top Rank—sought recognition as “Franchise” champion in exchange for giving up the green belt." https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...is-own--152472 2. "Haney’s upgrade came as a result of unified and now former WBC titlist Vasiliy Lomachenko (14-1, 10KOs) being named as the sanctioning body’s “Franchise” champion. The move came at the request of Top Rank, Inc., whom promotes Lomachenko and is grooming the three-division titlist and pound for pound entrant for what was previously pitched as an undisputed lightweight championship showdown with the winner of the Dec. 14 clash between IBF titlist Richard Commey and unbeaten mandatory challenger Teofimo Lopez." https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachen...d-full--143620 3. "Haney was initially the mandatory challenger to world champion Vasiliy Lomachenko, who was elevated to the status of "franchise champion" - which allowed him to sidestep any obligation to fight Haney." https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez...-champ--149024

I'm just telling you the facts. 1. Haney put himself in position to challenge Lomachenko for the WBC belt. ​​​​​​ 2. Lomachenko could have fought Teofimo Lopez AND still kept the belt, since the WBC hadn't ordered anything with Haney yet. 3. Lomachenko's team instead requested Franchise Champion status and dropped the WBC belt, ensuring that the winner of Lomachenko vs Teofimo could never be ordered to fight Haney. If you can point out where I am wrong then do so. Otherwise the truth is what it is. ​​​​​​ You can believe that all you want. It's pretty funny a Basically you're saying Haney is a paper champion. Lomachenko has no issue fighting Haney. And apparently he demanded 5 million to fight Loma. He has zero chance against Loma.

I watched the UFC hard for about 10 years but it’s not really my thing. It's very hard for me to get in to.

There's not helping you. Lmfao. Who the hell believes this besides Loma haters? Move on dude. I'm just telling you the facts. 1. Haney put himself in position to challenge Lomachenko for the WBC belt. ​​​​​​ 2. Lomachenko could have fought Teofimo Lopez AND still kept the belt, since the WBC hadn't ordered anything with Haney yet. 3. Lomachenko's team instead requested Franchise Champion status and dropped the WBC belt, ensuring that the winner of Lomachenko vs Teofimo could never be ordered to fight Haney. If you can point out where I am wrong then do so. Otherwise the truth is what it is. ​​​​​​

This is the fight to make if Haney is pricing himself out. I would have preferred to see the "undisputed" controversy resolved with a Kambosos/Haney fight, but it's looking more like Loma/Kambosos, and that's a more entertaining fight IMO.

I think you watch boxing for the wrong reasons. UFC or WWE might be more down the 'exciting' lane. I watched the UFC hard for about 10 years but it’s not really my thing.

I work a lot so I have to be hyped if I’m going to take the night off. I think you watch boxing for the wrong reasons. UFC or WWE might be more down the 'exciting' lane.

that way he would never have to defend against Haney. There's not helping you. Lmfao. Who the hell believes this besides Loma haters? Move on dude.

Dude I stopped watching "pre fight hype" when I was a kid. I work a lot so I have to be hyped if I’m going to take the night off.

Damn good fight!!! I really like Kambosos vs Lomachenko!!!

You have to stop finding boxing news on CNN dude. Why the hell would Loma fight someone who doesn't have a title when he's trying to unify the division? You guys say real dumb ****. This internet world mentality is embarrassing. Loma beats Kambosos the next guy he fights is whoever else has a belt.... Lomachenko could have unified the division without dropping the WBC belt. But he didn't want a fight with Devin Haney looming afterwards. So his team requested Franchise Champion status, that way he would never have to defend against Haney. I hope Lomachenko doesn't get the Kambosos fight, he already got his chance at the belts and screwed Devin out of his chance.

Poor reporting from the BBC? And from BoxingScene too? "In 2019, Haney was the mandatory challenger to Lomachenko's WBC title. Lomachenko, in what became a controversial move, made a request to the WBC to make him the "Franchise" champion. " https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-...%22%20champion. people don't want to accept the facts that are presented to them. Any other time they are posting news articles, from the same sources, now these sources are bs . lol. They know it's the truth, but want to continue playing the fool like most of us don't know any better.

Have you got a source for Suliaman saying he isn't/wasn't the mandatory challenger? I'd be interested to read that. Okay. I got you the original. It's buried in here, and it's a long conversation. Bill Haney joins too. You can hear all in the discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry1OjBIo67A&t=0s

Do you live in Bizarro World? Haney was the WBC mandatory and Lomachenko's team requested Franchise Champion status so they wouldn't have to fight him. In real life we know there is zero chancce that Lomachenko will fight Haney, because that is what actually happened once already, You have to stop finding boxing news on CNN dude. Why the hell would Loma fight someone who doesn't have a title when he's trying to unify the division? You guys say real dumb shit. This internet world mentality is embarrassing. Loma beats Kambosos the next guy he fights is whoever else has a belt....