TruGeordie on talent in boxing

He's a youtuber and mate of KSI and those lot isn't he, so he's kind of big into his celebrity fights. Is Jake Paul really thriving in a boxing sense? He's thriving money wise, but it's celeb boxing really isn't it. Facing other youtubers, ex-mma guys, ex basketball players, all making their boxing debuts. If he'd gone into MMA instead of boxing and did the same, he'd probably of been just as talked about in the press as he is now.

As far as I'm aware, he's a football guy who just dabbles in combat sports, he's had Hearn & Fury on his podcast. He is best known in the YouTube world for having his direct messages exposed where he asked some girl to crap on his chest and bang him with a big black strap on look it up

UFC might stack their cards more, but the point they’re missing is guys join the UFC when they’ve already been fighting in other promotions and then ready to make that jump. It’s not like boxing where Eddie Hearn or someone has to really secure young talent from the start, then give them fights from very early in their career on his cards and build their career. that’s why boxing has a lot more lower level fights on the cards.

Haha check this out, funny shit. "Use da muscles AJ" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0plavQjFkt4 Coldwell there as well. Is there anybody he won’t wh*** himself out to? :lol1:

Hmmmmm not sure about that. MMA undercards are usually significantly more entertaining than boxing undercards as they are usually far more competitive. UFC cards are consistency good. Boxing cards are consistently not so good But a good boxing match > MMA fight Yeah I pretty much agree with this. I think MMA is designed to provide a more consistent level of entertainment, boxing rules can lead to a lot of fights that drag on, but when theres a really good fight the rules compliment it. The counts after a knockdown, more rounds and total fight time etc makes it feel more epic and attritional. Only having punches makes it a lot more crisp and aesthetic due to the simplicity, hit and not get hit. And punches only + shorter rounds allows the fighters to keep up a higher overall pace/volume throughout. There really arent many MMA fights I can think of that were crazy in terms of action/intensity but at the same time werent sloppy as shyt.

Hmmmmm not sure about that. MMA undercards are usually significantly more entertaining than boxing undercards as they are usually far more competitive. UFC cards are consistency good. Boxing cards are consistently not so good But a good boxing match > MMA fight

Seems like a big juiced up casual by the looks of him. :lol1: Haha check this out, funny shit. "Use da muscles AJ" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0plavQjFkt4

As far as I'm aware, he's a football guy who just dabbles in combat sports, he's had Hearn & Fury on his podcast. Seems like a big juiced up casual by the looks of him. :lol1:

Who the f*** is this guy? He a YouTuber or something? As far as I'm aware, he's a football guy who just dabbles in combat sports, he's had Hearn & Fury on his podcast.

Disagree. Much more depth than the garbage UFC. He's just being biased towards his sport, just like boxers are biased towards their own generation as it makes them look better. Nash out. The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Im Pretty sure Arlovski is still a top HW and hes been knocked out like 20 times ffs :lol1: Yeah its fucking surreal. People were calling for him to retire like a decade ago for the sake of his health. He was on a 4 fight losing streak outside of the UFC, 3 via first round KO. It seemed inconceivable that he'd ever get back to the UFC again, never mind still be there in fucking 2021 and typically beating anyone who isnt top 10-15 level.

every time i tune into the UFC, there is a big fat chippytits HW who is god awful or a bunch of OAP's. its embarrassing to watch, apart from Gane and Nganu, the rest are aids. Im Pretty sure Arlovski is still a top HW and hes been knocked out like 20 times ffs :lol1:

Chisora def isnt a top 10. Parker is, but I can name over 20 HWs right now who would beat him. in no particular order incase some of you guys go on the rag over this. Usyk, Tyson Fury, AJ, Joyce, Whyte, Ruiz, Wilder, Dubois, Hrgovic, Parker, Michael Hunter, Hughie Fury, Bakole, Kabayel, Pulev, Ortiz, Gassiev, Tony Yoka, Jalolov, Makhmudov, and Frank Sanchez. As for Jake Paul. All he's proven is that he can put 2 former mma champions to sleep.

Was watching TruGeordie and Bisping talk about Jake-Woodley fight . Somewhere in the video TruGeordie mentioned how he watched the Chisora-Parker card and that he was unimpressed that those two were supposedly top 10 fighters at Heavyweight. Stated that in an UFC card normally throughout the entire card is high-level guys . Boxing lacks that and that's why Jake Paul can capitalized on it . According to him the standards in boxing is lower then in MMA . Therefore easier for Jake to thrive You guys think there's any truth to that? Or does he just not know the sport in and out. I for one think there is some truth to it but at the same time he's highly overrating MMA fighter's I've seen top 10 Heavyweights fight in UFC and was highly unimpressed myself. I do think theres some truth to the depth of talent in MMA tho . Mostly cause the mid level guys in MMA can actually make a living in the sport and dedicate time to honing their skills . Rather then work a Full-time job like many if not all mid=level boxers do . Which boxer did Paul beat to assume that??? He beat an UFC guy, that is the opposite of what it means. UFC lacks boxing skills so Paul can capitalize on it.

Who the f*** is this guy? He a YouTuber or something?

The heavyweights have been awful for decades now, outside of the few elite in each era.

The HW division in MMA has been ****ing awful for years outside of a handful of fighters. Gane/Ngannou is a killer match up between two monsters but the division drops off really fast. Say what you will about current HW boxing but the depth is far, far better. The 3rd and 4th tier is guys like Del Boy, Helenius, Martin, Bakole, Hughie, Takam et al. The 3rd and 4th tier of HW MMA is...**** I dont even know tbh, but its not good. As far as undercard quality goes, its apples to oranges. The UFC markets itself as the NFL of MMA, its supposed to have the cream of the crop of the talent pool on its roster. This is not entirely true in practice, but its mostly true. Boxing doesnt have this in comparison, its fragmented with the top talent spread out everywhere. Theres no real hierarchy of promotions and they pretty much all have lazy undercards. Completely agree not to mention all the divisions in boxing spreads the top talent even further . Also I think to him Chisora/Parker etc looked un athletic/talented etc. but put any of those MMA Heavyweights in a boxing ring and they'd look even worse. Boxers don't waste movements for the most part as MMA fighters do . Less is more in boxing all that jumping etc just wasted energy

If anything, Jake Paul just keeps exposing MMA/UFC for the trash it’s. The fighter are meant to be all rounders and for a complete novice to keep putting them to sleep, it shows how terrible the product is. Hes trained exclusively boxing for 3 years while having access to high level coaching and resources, and is then hand picking older, smaller fighters who he thinks he can deal with stylistically, and fighting them under rules that ban 75% of their skillset. You really think he couldnt train wrestling/jiu jitsu/muay thai etc with top coaches for 3 years and beat some 40 year old smaller boxer in MMA? he could probably do that right now actually, his brother definitely could.

The HW division in MMA has been fucking awful for years outside of a handful of fighters. Gane/Ngannou is a killer match up between two monsters but the division drops off really fast. Say what you will about current HW boxing but the depth is far, far better. The 3rd and 4th tier is guys like Del Boy, Helenius, Martin, Bakole, Hughie, Takam et al. The 3rd and 4th tier of HW MMA is...shit I dont even know tbh, but its not good. As far as undercard quality goes, its apples to oranges. The UFC markets itself as the NFL of MMA, its supposed to have the cream of the crop of the talent pool on its roster. This is not entirely true in practice, but its mostly true. Boxing doesnt have this in comparison, its fragmented with the top talent spread out everywhere. Theres no real hierarchy of promotions and they pretty much all have lazy undercards.