Can fury just dump the belts and fight aj?

I guarantee there’s a penalty in the contract for ignoring the rematch clause. I’m not saying they’ll ignore anything. But there’s always a negotiation. What if they can’t come to terms on purses, site, date, things of that nature. If it’s late July or early August and both sides haven’t agreed then a September fight is unrealistic. Plus Canelo plans to fight on Mexican Independence weekend so most likely it will have to happen well before to make that deadline. The second fight underperformed with it being a co promotion and I don’t think there’s that much interest in a third fight.

I'm interested in seeing the court ruling and actually knowing of its jurisdiction. Does it have effect outside of America? Is it just a low level ruling that can be appealed in a higher court etc? From what I've seen, Lewis v Rahman was used as precedent.

It says they have until 09/15 so it’s not like Fury can’t ever fight anyone again. It’s unclear what happens if they can’t come to an agreement before then. If Fury just refuses to fight then he'll be in breach of contract and Wilder will pursue him for damages. The contract will deal with 'not coming to an agreement'. Although I don't know what happens if the fight can't generate the kind of fees that are listed in the contract.

what happens if espn/fox decide 'we're putting up 5m for wilder' and wilder says no. he turns it down and they end up making offers back and forth, leaving no time for the fight, what happens then?

The arbitration is not tied to a belt, it's tied to a rematch clause. Fury fights Wilder next or retires. He can't continued his boxing career with this clause in place because anyone involved in helping Fury fight someone else (other than WIlder) going forward will be sued like crazy. It says they have until 09/15 so it’s not like Fury can’t ever fight anyone again. It’s unclear what happens if they can’t come to an agreement before then.

I'm interested in seeing the court ruling and actually knowing of its jurisdiction. Does it have effect outside of America? Is it just a low level ruling that can be appealed in a higher court etc?

Of course it does. Still a big fight. Would still crown the top fighter. You'd like to think the fact that it's so difficult would motivate the sport to make the fight while they can. Doesn't happen like that though. It's the second worst division in boxing. I'm not losing any sleep over it. (Third worst if you count Bridger, I do not.) but yeah, it's still a big fight, but without it being "undisputed heavyweight championship" It's more of a huge domestic fight.

Kinda defeats the purpose and marketability of an undisputed fight if Fury dumps the WBC and Joshua dumps the WBO, no? Of course it does. Still a big fight. Would still crown the top fighter. You'd like to think the fact that it's so difficult would motivate the sport to make the fight while they can. Doesn't happen like that though.

Kinda defeats the purpose and marketability of an undisputed fight if Fury dumps the WBC and Joshua dumps the WBO, no?

What do you mean… both parties (promotional teams) were fighting/defending the WBC belt. That’s what was agreed upon. Top Rank and PBC are marketing a Championship fight. This is basic common sense. The belt goes back and forth in their series, that’s the premise having made the Rematch. What does AJ get fighting Fury without a belt? Lol. Wouldn’t he rather offer the fight to Wilder for Undisputed? This is the WBC we are talking about. The WBC would MOST LIKELY make Wilder the WBC champion if Fury were to vacate and still get sued. Which means the fight goes back to AJ vs Wilder for Undisputed. Top Rank would be in a lose situation. The best thing Top Rank could do is have Fury vs Ruiz having been phased out How many times have belts been dropped between the original fight and a rematch? Happens all the time. The reason is that the contract is between the fighters. The belt is an honour conferred by an organisation. The rematch clause cannot stipulate that they are putting the belt up for the winner. The parties to the fight can't offer that. They don't own it in the first place to be able to offer it.

What do you mean dump? the contracts always included the belt. If Fury were to vacate the belt he would get sued again. Lol. Everything is based on money and the type of fight being marketed I went through this months ago with someone. Might have been you. A contract can place certain obligations on Fury, but it can't obligate him to be the WBC Champion. It's not necessarily in his control.

I don’t think so It was initially thought to be the case but it seems unlikely. I think if it was that simple, he would do it. He stands to make crazy money from the AJ fight. I think the belt would be gone in a heartbeat if that was a solution.

The arbitration is not tied to a belt, it's tied to a rematch clause. Fury fights Wilder next or retires. He can't continued his boxing career with this clause in place because anyone involved in helping Fury fight someone else (other than WIlder) going forward will be sued like crazy.