Are PBC boxers the most stupid fighters in the world?

These dumb posters showing these PBC boxers houses like others live under a rock… SMH, like that’s what the OP is referring to. Holyfield had houses like those, Riddick Bowe had houses like those, years later they are selling BS from the back of their truck. With a dumb mentality like these posters these fighters would always think they are making the right decisions turning down career high paydays. Very true. The hypocritical part is they don't even buy PPVs. They want their fighters to do well financially, but they won't buy PPVs. I started threads whether they'll buy PPV for this fight or that fight. Not one of them responded. It's clear they're streaming everything for free. It's like pontificating about the saintliness of donating to charitable causes, yet they won't spend a single cent.

Santa Cruz was already a consistent 6 figure fighter under GBP. In Santa Cruz’s 10 fights under PBC he easily averaged 1mil per fight at the least, especially during the time of PBC’s “overpaid too much” compared to other platforms at the time, his $2.6mil mansion was easy work, just like those in Texas too. When Jacobs told Jermall “you ain’t even touching M’s yet” the Charlos still had their mansions. It means big Charlo was always on a program for least resistance while he paid off his “investments” such as a mansion. When fighters would see a consistent routine for activity making minimum $1mil purses on PBC was job security. now when a Canelo fight comes, there’s the risk of being expendable and how Haymon might view them afterwards so instead of losing that 0 to a high pay with Canelo they can make up for the earnings with 7 fights. Lots of favoritism too Haymon did too to max the wallets to his best friend Ronnie Shields since the PBC stock boy and trainer always gets his cut… Plant would rather fight Feigenbutz 2, Mike Lee Trilogy making $1mil each time. This is the job security at PBC. That’s fine. You either want to get beat by Canelo or not You really think Plants not going to fight Canelo. Why the hell did he sit out for? And if you look at his Instagram he and his wife are training their asses off.

I love that Richie was able to provide his own spin on that song, not just the Alabama thing. First time I've seen it. Thanks. I like original versions, but I always look for covers that do their own spin but not necessarily better. I'm a collector as a hobby. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcCSrTecRH0

I have stopped taking boxing too seriously doe. Like Neil Diamond says, "LA's fine sun shines most of the time Feeling is laid back... LA's fine but it ain't home, New York's home but it ain't mine no more.... Lionel's version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X56zTl-VMOE I love that Richie was able to provide his own spin on that song, not just the Alabama thing. First time I've seen it. Thanks. Any idea when Diamond's Sweet Caroline will begin to get sang again in boxing events? Haven't heard it sang in a while.

Fans in other sports don't have to demand anything. The best just naturally competes with the best in the end. Boxing is not a real sport. It's a circus. I have stopped taking boxing too seriously doe. Like Neil Diamond says, "LA's fine sun shines most of the time Feeling is laid back... LA's fine but it ain't home, New York's home but it ain't mine no more.... Lionel's version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X56zTl-VMOE

Fans just have to stop treating boxing as a real sport where the best fights the best in the end like tennis and others. This sport only needs passive fans. Fans that don't demand who fighters should fight. Like you've read in some posters here. You accept it as it is warts and all. You don't have rights as fans like what you read in some posters here. Fans in other sports don't have to demand anything. The best just naturally competes with the best in the end. Boxing is not a real sport. It's a circus.

I'm not going to argue for either but I will say with income tax, trainers' fee, managers' fee, promoters' fees and cost of living PBC fighters maybe doing the correct thing for them. Holyfield and Tyson both lost generational wealth and have to discuss fighting at 50; and sure Mike might say its going to charity but people involved with fight want to get paid to.

These dumb posters showing these PBC boxers houses like others live under a rock… SMH, like that’s what the OP is referring to. Holyfield had houses like those, Riddick Bowe had houses like those, years later they are selling BS from the back of their truck. With a dumb mentality like these posters these fighters would always think they are making the right decisions turning down career high paydays.

PBC fighters are okay with making the kind of money they make. Most average people are. They don't have to make millions and millions of dollars. As long as it's steady, safe and risk-free. Fans just have to stop treating boxing as a real sport where the best fights the best in the end like tennis and others. This sport only needs passive fans. Fans that don't demand who fighters should fight. Like you've read in some posters here. You accept it as it is warts and all. You don't have rights as fans like what you read in some posters here. Me, I enjoy watching it when the risk-averse fighter who is okay with fighting scrubs gets mauled and beaten to pulp. Of course it rarely happens, but it's always possible. Upsets are the key to enjoying boxing. Sacrificial lambs who gets paid $50K - $100K suddenly getting a chance to make his first millions of $$$$$. Those are the fighters I'm rooting for.

So why don't they just..."LEAVE!" Oh that is right they won't, you wanna know why Because they get PAID VERY WELL... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xJv8GgR51A Very little issue with Jermell. He fought the right guys coming up under Shields and even took the Andrade fight early in his career which he was going to get slaughtered if Rocnation did pull Andrade out. He's fighting for undisputed and Lara, Hurd and ChinnyRock have avoided him. I can't say the same for his brother who is moving like PBC welterweights. I don't know what 160 holds for Jermell if he moves up. I'd probably keep him at 154 and defend a couple of times. Plenty of money stopping the 3 mentioned above, especially the teacher/pupil fight vs Lara .

I'd rather die rich than broke. I think that's why Haney and Andrade don't complain about Hearn. He pays them their quarterly fees 4 times a year, even without a fight. Why not stay? Not many have that luxury. Boxing is a brutal sport.

PBC fighters seem to do very well for themselves financially and like Errol Spence said out loud "WHY NOT TAKE THE EASY ROUTE" They get paid very well to stay safe and fight the easy fights, yes they are offered more money and the chance at greatness but their owner and master Al Hyman seems to get them out of sport and achievement mode and in to business mode. This is why it doesn't bother me in the least when these yanks try to mock British or Euro fighters when they keep losing on the big stage, at least they are stepping up like they want the hardest fights where they can try to be great and prove themselves. These Americans would lose more too if they actually dared step up. But they don't. Only thing that bothers me is they do so much clout chasing, they smack talk the top dogs soooooo much, tell us how it's easy work, then duck. You don't wana fight them, don't want to lose your 0, don't want to hurt your worth or value? That's fine, but don't shit talk about fighters you are not prepared to fight.

So why don't they just..."LEAVE!" Oh that is right they won't, you wanna know why Because they get PAID VERY WELL... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xJv8GgR51A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K78JE_iplc Now that should probably be the complaint if you're that desperate for one...is that guys are getting paid well to fight guys like Montiel so a lot of fighters mentality is like "Well I Might As Well Keep Making The Easy Money". Take Shawn Porter for Example, why take 1+ Million to fight Crawford when you can get that fighting the Likes of Formella so since he is already being paid well of course it is going to raise their prices up for big fights. Unless you have your own Financial Situation in Order I don't think NO FANS should be trying to tell a fighter how much he is ONLY WORTH and how much he NEEDS and how much he should Accept. They have people much smarter than me, you and everybody on this forum combined who gets paid very well to do their job which is to get their Clients paid and Haymon does GET HIS CLIENTS PAID one way or the other. NO FIGHTER, NO PROMOTER should be taking advice from boxing fans...EVER! We're simply not qualified to try and instruct these people on how to do things on the business side when someone like Haymon been in this Business for YEARS/Decades and has made a lot of fighters MILLIONARIES. Maybe make yourself (Not directed at you who started this Thread but more so overly critical FANS IN GENERAL) a Millionaire FIRST before trying to give advice to other Millionaires on how much money you think they're only worth and how much you think they should only make {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\t200.gif Views:\t0 Size:\t1.47 MB ID:\t30900149","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"30900149","data-size":"full","title":"200.gif"} Wow, bro, Jermell styling. Nice home. I hope he keeps it up for his future kids or whomever.

So why don't they just..."LEAVE!" Oh that is right they won't, you wanna know why Because they get PAID VERY WELL... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xJv8GgR51A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K78JE_iplc Now that should probably be the complaint if you're that desperate for one...is that guys are getting paid well to fight guys like Montiel so a lot of fighters mentality is like "Well I Might As Well Keep Making The Easy Money". Take Shawn Porter for Example, why take 1+ Million to fight Crawford when you can get that fighting the Likes of Formella so since he is already being paid well of course it is going to raise their prices up for big fights. Unless you have your own Financial Situation in Order I don't think NO FANS should be trying to tell a fighter how much he is ONLY WORTH and how much he NEEDS and how much he should Accept. They have people much smarter than me, you and everybody on this forum combined who gets paid very well to do their job which is to get their Clients paid and Haymon does GET HIS CLIENTS PAID one way or the other. NO FIGHTER, NO PROMOTER should be taking advice from boxing fans...EVER! We're simply not qualified to try and instruct these people on how to do things on the business side when someone like Haymon been in this Business for YEARS/Decades and has made a lot of fighters MILLIONARIES. Maybe make yourself (Not directed at you who started this Thread but more so overly critical FANS IN GENERAL) a Millionaire FIRST before trying to give advice to other Millionaires on how much money you think they're only worth and how much you think they should only make {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\t200.gif Views:\t0 Size:\t1.47 MB ID:\t30900149","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"30900149","data-size":"full","title":"200.gif"}

You obviously haven’t seen Leo Santa Cruz and the Charlo brothers houses. They seem to be living alright to me. And what does counting another mans pockets do for you anyway? Believe half of what you hear and none of what you see. There’s so much disinformation out there that nobody really knows what someone was really offered or the stipulations that go along with that.