On the Whole, Are American Boxing "Fans" The Worst Fans?

I agree, most of the bandwagoners are casuals who can only determine a fighters skill or greatness is by their 0, like you said it's the easiest way to do so. But, I do think that some of the bandwagoners are educated boxing fans. I've seen guys on the forum talk about Lomachenko before the Teofimo fight as a ATG, and someone even said that Lomachenko could beat Prime Mayweather, which is ridiculous. Keep in mind, I still acknowledge the fact that these are educated fans, to an extent. After Loma's loss to Teo, then I hear that "Hes washed up, he was never that good since he lost to Salido and Teo, etc." This is what I mean, even some educated American fans switch sides quickly. You can look on the forum right now, nobody is talking about Lomachenko anymore, he's no longer a praised fighter like before, that is also what I mean by fickle. Anyways, thanks for the response! Not many fighters get talked about unless they have a fight coming up. Loma just had his fight posted into a thread and got like 80 responses just in this forum. So I understand what ya saying but you have to keep in mind the context of the situation.

Matchroom fans are the worst fans in boxing, closely followed by Wilder fans. Americans are probably the best fans in boxing, at least they're willing to call a spade a spade, UK fans have this weird nationalistic thing going, whereas you're expected to support ALL British boxers despite how rubbish most of them are.

Ruiz has spent pretty much his entire life living in California. He was born in America. He is, by ****ing definition, an American. Seriously? Are we really doing this? By that logic is Fury Irish and not British? The dumb **** you clowns try and peddle man, seriously. You people never cease with your asinine stupidity. Well we obviously are 'doing this' as you seem to just want to try and be right and get the last word in - which I just can't have. If Fury calls himself Irish - ok, he's Irish. It makes no odds to me. Lets put it another way that you might understand - and if you want to throw some insults out - If you want to act like a massive cvnt, then I can only agree that you are a massive cvnt because you are acting like that. If Ruiz acts Mexican, he's Mexican. If Fury acts Irish, he's Irish - its totally up to you and them. All I can say is; all of the above is true if you and them choose to be. Asinine and stupidity mean the same thing - so you might want to rethink trying to look clever whilst calling others stupid. SMH. Now if where to say 'You people never cease with your asinine opinions' that would make sense. Now back to the original point - you shouldn't laugh at people losing in the ring if you aren't, yourself, in the ring. Here endeth the lesson.

Well, actually you did - and then you just immediately contradicted yourself. Living and training in America doesn't make you MORE American. Fury is training in Vegas right now - 100% not American. Golovkin, lives and trains in US - 100% Kazakh. Lomachenko, so many. Ruiz said he's Mexican. Anyone who's anyone calls him Mexican. He is dubbed the first Mexican HW Champion. He's so Mexican, he's a Taco. He's Mexican. Trained in Mexicali in Mexico as an amateur, represent them at the Olympics, went to Mexicali school, so yeah if the man says he is Mexican then who am I to argue with him? Margarito was born in America, Cotto was born in America... Etc

The prominent boxers minus maybe Fury and Taylor have ALL underperformed or just straight been washed once they stepped on American shores. The reason why MMA isn't an issue is because no one sits there inflating the egos and resumes of MMA fighters because, by and large, they don't get to spend a lot of their career fighting B-tier fighters only to get outclassed when they meet a truly live dog. The problem isn't Hearn boxers losing, its Hearn boxers being made out to be something special. Look at what happened to the likes of Smith and Joshua, not only were they beaten but their performances were kind of embarrassing. Hearn builds up a lot of these guys like they're a big deal, Americans pick up interest and then they laugh when those same guys don't deliver. The money issue is one to acknowledge though. Losing isn’t an issue, especially when you are testing yourself against the best at your level. This is why British boxers have fights against their domestic rivals early in their careers, lose and move on even with a loss. Bentley and cash are fighting this week and both are undefeated and at an early stage of their careers, Kongo and Morrison did the same thing on the undercard of Povetkin v Whyte. That’s my point, losing a fight doesn’t mean the end of your career or doesn’t mean you are a euro bum, and promoters are there to talk up their fighters; that’s their job. So whether it’s Hearn, Arum, Warren etc it’s irrelevant. Let what they do in the ring speaks for itself. MMA is thriving at an alarming rate in America because they put on competitive fights, I know their model is not great for boxing because they don’t co-promote. But boxing in America doesn’t help itself with the other side of the streets thing, hence why they have people from social media tapping in to the market. Ray Leonard was 25 when he fought a 22 year old Hearns, Spence and Bud are in their early 30s, Charlo and Boo Boo the same and they haven’t even fought each other yet. And you have the next generation coming up in Ennis and Ortiz, who they should be fighting in their early to mid 30s.... But let’s obsess about how “Hearn is making these boxers out to be something special” :D

Well, actually you did - and then you just immediately contradicted yourself. Living and training in America doesn't make you MORE American. Fury is training in Vegas right now - 100% not American. Golovkin, lives and trains in US - 100% Kazakh. Lomachenko, so many. Ruiz said he's Mexican. Anyone who's anyone calls him Mexican. He is dubbed the first Mexican HW Champion. He's so Mexican, he's a Taco. He's Mexican. Ruiz has spent pretty much his entire life living in California. He was born in America. He is, by fucking definition, an American. Seriously? Are we really doing this? By that logic is Fury Irish and not British? The dumb shit you clowns try and peddle man, seriously. You people never cease with your asinine stupidity.

I never said anything about fighting Americans, I said that Americans picked up interest and both fighters lost in poor performances. And, even then, lets not sit and pretend Ruiz wasn't born in America, lives and trains there. Get the **** out of there with that horse****. Well, actually you did - and then you just immediately contradicted yourself. Living and training in America doesn't make you MORE American. Fury is training in Vegas right now - 100% not American. Golovkin, lives and trains in US - 100% Kazakh. Lomachenko, so many. Ruiz said he's Mexican. Anyone who's anyone calls him Mexican. He is dubbed the first Mexican HW Champion. He's so Mexican, he's a Taco. He's Mexican.

Not sure how Americans can laugh at others losing considering no Americans were involved in Smith/Canelo or Joshua/Ruiz 1. I laugh at Americans for being proud that they spend tens of millions of dollars more to watch the same fights, that I pay a quarter to watch. Its like enjoying being robbed. Just to pre-empt the whole 'Ruiz is American'. Ruiz prefers to be known as Mexican, rather than American. It must be too much of an embarrassment. I never said anything about fighting Americans, I said that Americans picked up interest and both fighters lost in poor performances. And, even then, lets not sit and pretend Ruiz wasn't born in America, lives and trains there. Lets cut the nonsense.

I agree with the sentiment of us having significantly more champions than other places. And even that doesn’t sway the hardcore fan, but promotions tend to sit a fighter with a loss on the bench for a while to promote their rising star. So it may seem as though we forget, but promotion definitely changes. Also lest we forget presently the disdain not only euros but all fight fans give when their countries beat an American fighter, its gross. Deontay Wilder, jeff lacy, even porter when he lost to brook, English fans made those seem like David vs Goliath conquests and you’re so omnipresent on here. That contributes to the image of a forgotten fighter, even if US fans would still support

American boxing fans are ruthless or very passive towards there own fighters, but they can embrace overseas fighters 'If they invade america'. Tyson Fury is the latest overseas fighter they have embraced.

Does he? Did he? Nope. Anytime a Fury fan wants to impress us with his resume, pls do :lol1:

Old Man Ortiz cleans out shot Wlad and everyone else Fury fought (except Wilder of course). If you need to laugh at a resume, dial up a Euro bum Does he? Did he? Nope.

Hearn builds up a lot of these guys like they're a big deal, Americans pick up interest and then they laugh when those same guys don't deliver. Not sure how Americans can laugh at others losing considering no Americans were involved in Smith/Canelo or Joshua/Ruiz 1. I laugh at Americans for being proud that they spend tens of millions of dollars more to watch the same fights, that I pay a quarter to watch. Its like enjoying being robbed. Just to pre-empt the whole 'Ruiz is American'. Ruiz prefers to be known as Mexican, rather than American. It must be too much of an embarrassment.

I only notice this over the last recent years, i mean these guys come up with stuffs like "Eurobum" and this are prominent posters on here, only TWO weeks ago another prominent boxer said if one of Hearn boxer loses then its the end for Hearn and that boxer, and i was like WTF? Why are you guys stuck on this undefeated record? Like MMA doesn't care, younger brits with undefeated records are fighting each other, i gave examples of those. And i remember saying this is why american boxers don't want to fight each other unless its on PPV for more money, hence why we wouldn't see Ortiz v Ennis, hence why we wouldn't see Garcia v Haney, hence why we haven't seen Bud/Spence or Plant/Benavidez. The prominent boxers minus maybe Fury and Taylor have ALL underperformed or just straight been washed once they stepped on American shores. The reason why MMA isn't an issue is because no one sits there inflating the egos and resumes of MMA fighters because, by and large, they don't get to spend a lot of their career fighting B-tier fighters only to get outclassed when they meet a truly live dog. The problem isn't Hearn boxers losing, its Hearn boxers being made out to be something special. Look at what happened to the likes of Smith and Joshua, not only were they beaten but their performances were kind of embarrassing. Hearn builds up a lot of these guys like they're a big deal, Americans pick up interest and then they laugh when those same guys don't deliver. The money issue is one to acknowledge though.

The worst fans by far are the Hearn fanboys. They have been brainwashed by regularly watching hour long Hearn interviews on youtube and they run to Eddie's defence. Then they buy those unworthy ppv's. Hearn is able to get away with putting lacklustre shows as ppv because of these morons. This. Hearn has completely turned me off a lot of British boxing. Its a successful model, but not one that works if you want to see talented fighters.

american fans are terrible. So are brits. Americans fans are a bunch of race obsessed morons who usually hate on their own fighters especially if they have different colour skinny skin skins. British fans are completely delusional, but love all fighters equally even if they’re complete rubbish. bang. On. The. Money.

To be fair to the American fight fans the Boxers themselves are fkking embarrassing right now. You got excuse king Wilder with a joke of a resume, Old Man Ortiz cleans out shot Wlad and everyone else Fury fought (except Wilder of course). If you need to laugh at a resume, dial up a Euro bum

To be fair to the American fight fans the Boxers themselves are fkking embarrassing right now. You got excuse king Wilder with a joke of a resume, you got Spence and Crawford not happening which is one of the biggest fights in the whole sport, and you got the serial clout chasers like Jermall Charlo and Tank Davis who call out so many names and then refuse to fight any of them. No wonder American fans have a warped view of the sport when the sportsmen themselves are so warped.

American Boxing fans seem to really struggle to credit any fighter that isnt American and give American fighters extra credit just for being American. American fight fans have a superiority complex. And then American Boxers and their promoters are scared to lose because American Boxing fans need their fighters to be unbeatable like Floyd, as soon as they may not be the very best then they tend to throw them away and stop supporting them. To be fair that is very much a generalisation and there are lots of true Boxing fans that understand fighters lose and there are proper fans who will stick by a fighter through thick and thin. But there is a large contingent of sports fans who have the "IF YOU AIN'T 1ST YOU'RE LAST" mentality. No one in the United States cares about these fighter losing they're prizefighters. They knew the risk signing the contract that if they loss a comeback would be difficult. So those fighter better be at there best because one loss and the gravy train stops as people have more important things to do than support some idiot who's best skills is getting punched in the head and punching someone else for a living. Floyd understood the public hatred gets him more money why do you think he posted all that bullshit? For public consumption.

I realized this recently You do know boxing, as do most sports, go through America, yes ? Fu ck soccer :lol1: