Who the hell has he even beat? This guy is turning 34 this year and his best win is Viktor Postol. How in the hell is he p4p? Go fight a Porter, Garcia, Spence, Thurman. He was big for every division he fought at below 147.
Matthysse was always overhyped. He couldn't even decisively beat a 33 year old Zab who went on to be dominated by Khan, Danny, and Paulie in 3 of his next 4 fights. But yea, Crawford needs to actually fight someone A level, in their prime.
Crawford is vastly overrated and over hyped for his trash resume. His best win is either Postol or inactive and blown up Gamboa, who made him do the stanky leg lol. His resume consists of b class or lower trinket holders, faded former champs and bums. His welterweight resume is pure dog ****. Horn, peg legged Jose Bumavidez, washed up glass jaw Amir Khan, Eurobum Mean Machine, and washed up weight drained quitter Brook.
He lost rounds to peg legged Jose Bumavidez and had to wait for his bum leg to give out before stopping him. He had to lowblow washed up glass jaw Amir Khan to stop him. Eurobum Mean Machine dropped him lol. Washed up weight drained quitter Brook damn near closed his eye before he quit.
Crawford re-signed with Top Rank and ESPN exclusivity to duck the top guys. It's the usual Top Rank protection program plan, have a sheeit fight lined up, use another fighters name to fake a call out, fight the sheeit fight, and the morons will believe the guy that was called out is ducking when in reality the Top Rank hype job is ducking. The sheeit fights and resume prove the real ducker. How a guy is ducking but fighting tougher competition is comical. Dumbass fangimps fall for these tactics all the time.
Asking for 50/50 then 60/40 your way is a clear pricing yourself out when the other guy draws more and has more belts that are more prestigious. Using triangle theories doesn't work in boxing since styles make fights. When your own promoter says they are losing $ on you and you don't help promote fights, why rush to negotiate a fight, especially when you are pricing yourself out already?
Crawford is saying Virgil Ortiz needs to earn a fight with him by beating Eurobum Mean Machine. Well Crawford needs to use his own logic to earn a shot at the top welterweight by beating a top 5 welterweight. Shawn Porter wants to fight Crawford too. But Crawford is scared and ducking. He would prefer the ghost of Mike Alvarado or Josesito Lopez next though.
Good to see you, been a while.
He "runs da block". :rofl:
can you imagine if crawford were a pbc fighter? what most of these guys would be saying about him? holy shit!
but bud respresent the anti pbc people...hes one of their "soldiers" if you will(not really by his choice)....so they will excuse everything and try to build up the resume or tell us that the pbc guys are ducking.......but imagine if bud were pbc....wow....its like golovkin....that guy has never done wrong in the eyes of many..its always someone elses fault....but theyll bag on other fighters for the same exact stuff
What's Crawford's excuse now? Who's he got that will give him a bigger payday than Spence? Pac fight ain't happening. 60-40 is a fair split.
I think 60-40 is plenty fair. Especially if Spence gets that other belt. Crawford isn't helping matters with his demand.
But has Spence or the PBC made an offer? Spence demanded Crawford Cross the street so obviously it's up to Spences side to make the offer. Has there been one? If there hasn't been an offer or a term sheet or a contract sent to Bud or Arum then I'd say there is the perfect excuse right there.
Surely they or you arent expecting Bob and Toprank to do the paperwork and foot the bill for a fight to be shown on Fox or Showtime?
Yes he wanted to fry some fish meaning fight other ppl and not Crawford while Crawford has been calling him out. So he has been avoiding him. I said it pages ago, he put him to the back of the queue.
What's Crawford's excuse now? Who's he got that will give him a bigger payday than Spence? Pac fight ain't happening. 60-40 is a fair split.
How was he avoiding him? He just wanted to fry some lucrative fish before facing him. Crawford has nobody for him that will give him a big payday aside from grandpa Pac, who he isn't getting.
Yes he wanted to fry some fish meaning fight other ppl and not Crawford while Crawford has been calling him out. So he has been avoiding him. I said it pages ago, he put him to the back of the queue.
So you acknowledge that Spence has been avoiding Crawford. Atleast we agree on that.
How was he avoiding him? He just wanted to fry some lucrative fish before facing him. Crawford has nobody for him that will give him a big payday aside from grandpa Pac, who he isn't getting.
spence is also afraid to lose his 0.. those two are becoming youtubers soon. they talk more but act less.. should be fighting each other.. but bud make it harder coz he wants a higher payday which i think is not applicable right now.. he's slowly becoming no name.. i wonder how did people rank him higher when he fought non elite fighters.
Is he though?
Who has he ducked? He called out Thurman when he was at his best and the top dog at 147, called out all the top Welterweights. Called out Canelo who would admittedly be a cash grab but is undoubtedly a very dangerous fight for Spence.
I would disagree. Crawford has skills and accomplishments that warrant hype. Yes his resume could be better.
Matthysse was slurped to the high heavens because he is a non American power puncher. This site tends to love that kind of fighter more than anything. Neither his skill set, accomplishments or resume warranted the level of hype he got imo.
People forget just how much Danny destroyed that hype train.
Them were the days, I was the most vociferous dampener of the Matthysse d1ckriders, telling them how Danny was going to whip him.
I would disagree. Crawford has skills and accomplishments that warrant hype. Yes his resume could be better.
Matthysse was slurped to the high heavens because he is a non American power puncher. This site tends to love that kind of fighter more than anything. Neither his skill set, accomplishments or resume warranted the level of hype he got imo.
People forget just how much Danny destroyed that hype train.
I agree. Bud isn't very realistic when he lists he reasons for why he deserves a higher split than Spence, Spence does the better numbers and he holds more belts.
But let's not pretend Spence wants it. He has even admitted to putting Crawford to the back of the queue and claimed he didn't know why Crawford would be at his fights. He also named a list of fights he wanted to have and Crawfords name wasn't even on it.
It could not be more obvious Spence dont want that fight. I've never seen more blatent negativity towards a potential opponent, especially one with a world title when it is supposed to be strap season.
spence is also afraid to lose his 0.. those two are becoming youtubers soon. they talk more but act less.. should be fighting each other.. but bud make it harder coz he wants a higher payday which i think is not applicable right now.. he's slowly becoming no name.. i wonder how did people rank him higher when he fought non elite fighters.
It’s clear he is a skilled fighter and by the eye test he is a top P4P guy.
But when he’s done fighting he will be easily forgotten with his current resume. You’re remembered by who you fought and who you beat not triangle theories and fights that your promoter stopped from happening.
He made that decision to go to Top Rank knowing their weak WW stable and that Arum doesn’t often play nice with other promoters.
If he stopped now he’s just another what if guy.
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It’s clear he is a skilled fighter and by the eye test he is a top P4P guy.
But when he’s done fighting he will be easily forgotten with his current resume. You’re remembered by who you fought and who you beat not triangle theories and fights that your promoter stopped from happening.
He made that decision to go to Top Rank knowing their weak WW stable and that Arum doesn’t often play nice with other promoters.
If he stopped now he’s just another what if guy.
Why should he not? He was OK to rush for a Lightweight in Mikey Garcia, Garcia didn't have to win a world title 1st, Garcia didn't have to run through the rest of the PBC Welters to earn his chance.
Why would he go for Crawford? Well its one of the best fights to be made in the sport. Why wouldn't he want that scalp on his resume?
Mikey was a bigger draw than Crawford then though.
Exactly. Personally I think Pacquiao was screwed over a bit in that fight but regardless it was a tough encounter. Bud Crawford then went and destroyed Horn with ease.
But the haters don't want to even consider that. If its not PBC it don't count for chit to them.
I think this is very fair and a lot more than people wish to acknowledge. I don't look at the scores always I look at the fight. And the world knows what happened that night. No matter how you scored it, pacquiao got hit a lot, was very uncomfortable with Horn's pressure, and was probably the toughest night he'd had since the Floyd fight. But the DICAFS won't admit this