Wilder, Fury and the Arbitration case.

So you won’t answer the question ? Yea I didn’t think you would . So now you’re just going to post random stories like you do in the fantasy section ? Permitations consist of order of calculating numbers involving more then two participants or a certain order who comes first to get so no that doesn’t apply here or to me , oh Silly Billy you got to look up big words that can show me I have been wrong ? Seems like you’re losing it Silly billy . I know how much big man on campus means to you ,you agree with the dumbest posters on here . Ha You know trolls don’t last long , when are you going quit because you aren’t really showing any intelligence once again because you’re to preoccupied with me and going against whatever I post , even if it shows how ignorant you are posting random things trying to be the cool guy in the room ,that might work at at party where you can be a Chris Farley look alike and show off your great intellect but were actually discussing big boy stuff here not showing off . :rofl: Desperate again... lol. Your the last poster onhere to question the intelligence of any other poster. You cannot even write a coherent post. I lost it years ago Redumbeer... And? Menwhile your posts sound s convoluted as Queenies.

Posters on here actually think Arbitration is the WBC and athletic commission on here and can stop Fury from fighting . statutes of limitations could also be in arbitration here because the pre existing contract had a deadline to get the fight done with extensions already well used so that could be used depending on what kind of arbitration is taking place . I’ve detailed what mostly is easy to know ,anyone thinking Wilder can enforce a fight is desperate or desperately trying to be right . Who is even doing this arbitration? The court of arbitration for sport? Which jurisdiction? The first I heard it was mediation! Are people not just confusing this with arbitration? I haven’t read one article to say who/what is deciding or ruling on this matter?

Silly Billy what bogus claim ? :lol1: Here you go again agreeing with a poster who lacks much intelligence, what is he right about ?,other posters want to know to ? :lol1: The poster you agreed with would have to have privy info about anyone gathering attorneys as we speak to form a case ,, does that poster have privy information ,tell us Silly Billy because your suggestion is no one does but he would have to , to make that statement ? :lol1: Arum doesn’t tell the truth , is that your new random phrase to disregard anything plausible or true ? Everything Arum has said months ago prior to the fallout of Wilder has come true before mediation and up to now , Silly Billy you would make a lousy lawyer if your judgment was important on specifics . :rofl: Your one of about 4 posters here that show a serious lack of intelligence here... Redumber what you will learn is that when your not trying to embarass others and wind up stepping into it yourself like you do, contract law has many permitations and often enough, assuming things, like you do, will make one look like you do... a cow's a s s. don't worry about him... worry about your own posting behavior, trust me on that one...

I can't find that news about attorneys putting a casr together. Although I've not checked the LDBC racist news yet. It came from Coppinger two days ago.

People are talking about this being an issue!? This arbitration means nothing! They can physically make Fury fight Wilder, they can’t physically stop the AJ v Fury fight. whatever they want to go and do they will. All it means, if they rule in favour of Wilder, they might rule a fight should take place, which again you can’t make someone do! So when there order is ignored, Wilder can sue them and get some money! Based on the figures the AJ Fury fight will generate it will be peanuts! realistically after the beating Wilder took, what would his purse be for the fight? 10m Max? Just pay him that to piss off

Well this turned out to be bullocks. Attorneys are putting together their case as we speak. Why do so many of you knowingly talk out of your ****ing arses. I can't find that news about attorneys putting a casr together. Although I've not checked the LDBC racist news yet.

Well this turned out to be bullocks. Attorneys are putting together their case as we speak. Why do so many of you knowingly talk out of your ****ing arses. I realise you're hard of thinking but FFS. My first paragraph is factual. Arbitration is not litigation. The other paragraphs that use words like 'pretty good indication' and 'my guess' are opinions and guesses. That's why I chose those words. I figured you might understand them. And maybe I've missed some news, but wtf are you talking about? Have you got some breaking news?

Well this turned out to be bullocks. Attorneys are putting together their case as we speak. Why do so many of you knowingly talk out of your ****ing arses. Lol. Its true... So many make the most bogus claims. You would think they were privy to information and that Arum tells the truth. Its kind of pathetic.

It's not a case. It's two sides agreeing to discuss their side of the contractual debate with an independent arbitrator. Arbitration is not binding on either party. Court cases are, but we haven't got there yet. If Fury is off signing contracts then that's a pretty good indication that they're not in arbitration anymore. How can they be discussing a Wilder fight while signing a Joshua fight? That being the situation, why hasn't team Wilder lodged anything with a court yet? My guess is they've either got a result to their satisfaction, or they simply don't have any legal right to the rematch. Well this turned out to be bullocks. Attorneys are putting together their case as we speak. Why do so many of you knowingly talk out of your fucking arses.

One fact that we know is this contracts isn’t without an expiry in boxing. You don’t sign one for life. COVID is NOT an excuse because fights had happened during the whole fiasco.

Wilder might want the rematch or hold them on the rematch clause but they took very long to get anything together. It wasn't until Fury started saying that he was going to fight someone else that then you heard Wilder talking about fighting again. In the end nobody knows what is in those contracts but the persons involved.

Do you guys even read the stuff reported on this site? "Finkel said their contract calls for mediation to resolve any differences and if that does not work the issue would go to binding arbitration. “In our contract, if there is a dispute it goes to mediation and that’s what’s going to happen,” Finkel said. “And (then) binding arbitration if mediation is unsuccessful.” https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-taking-fury-mediation-attempt-force-third-fight--153168 Mediation can take weeks, arbitration can take months. It was reported the arbitration was going to be pursued in late January, so it is very possible the arbitration process didn't begin until February. It's binding arbitration btw.

Things we know to be facts: - Wilder and Fury had a rematch clause in their contract. The rest is all guesswork. My guess is that Wilder went quiet, the period for the fight passed, he's making a case that there should have been an extension due to COVID, and it's not being particularly successful given that Fury is off signing contracts elsewhere. But it's my guess. No facts.

What case? Wilder got his ass kicked :lol1:

Nope you do not need to “Mediate” before going to court. Not sure where you got that from. Team Wilder didn’t “Mediate” with Povetkin before going to court. Team Joshua didn’t mediate with Team Ruiz before serving him legal papers, reminding him of his binding rematch clause contract. So when I see the “You mediate” thing first, am always asking where is that coming from? Correct. But I never said you need to mediate before going to court. That's stated precisely nowhere in my post. I said it's not one or the other, they're separate things. You mediate (if you can't settle between yourselves)... then if you're still not satisfied and think you have a case then you go to court. Alternatively you could just go to court. Negotiate (parties try to resolve between themselves), mediate (independent arbitrator), litigation (court decides). All separate elements, all may or may not happen. Going back to the original point... The fact that this is in arbitration doesn't mean it can't later go to court. Team Wilder have chosen to go to arbitration. That doesn't mean the threat of litigation has disappeared. And that threat carries a time element. They could have Fury tied up in court instead of fighting Joshua. Fury could press ahead but he'd do so with a risk (however small) that Wilder wins and gets paid out for lost earnings on a heavyweight championship rematch. He wouldn't press ahead with that risk in play.

You mediate before you go to court. Not instead of (unless you reach a satisfactory resolution). You don't need a strong case to enter litigation. Just a case. Even as an outsider, the fact that they had a rematch clause that expired during a pandemic would mean they could seriously take this to court. The threat from Wilder might not be that they will win the case, it might just be that they will go to court and be a pain in the backside. It's the same leverage that Ruiz had in the Joshua rematch. Court cases take time and Fury and Joshua don't want to lose that time. Ultimately this is Fury's problem, but it creates an issue for Joshua too. Nope you do not need to “Mediate” before going to court. Not sure where you got that from. Team Wilder didn’t “Mediate” with Povetkin before going to court. Team Joshua didn’t mediate with Team Ruiz before serving him legal papers, reminding him of his binding rematch clause contract. So when I see the “You mediate” thing first, am always asking where is that coming from?

Fury gets a pass since he's fighting a more important fight.

They literally cannot drag either Fury or AJ into anything. Why? Because they need a valid contract to be able to do that. They don’t have a valid contract, hence why they were (Team Wilder) going right through mediation. If they could have put a stop to Fury then we would be having litigation, not mediation then litigation. The best they would hope for is the couple of hundred grand for the phone calls and whatnot. You mediate before you go to court. Not instead of (unless you reach a satisfactory resolution). You don't need a strong case to enter litigation. Just a case. Even as an outsider, the fact that they had a rematch clause that expired during a pandemic would mean they could seriously take this to court. The threat from Wilder might not be that they will win the case, it might just be that they will go to court and be a pain in the backside. It's the same leverage that Ruiz had in the Joshua rematch. Court cases take time and Fury and Joshua don't want to lose that time. Ultimately this is Fury's problem, but it creates an issue for Joshua too.

I think they'd be pushing for an agreed trilogy fight down the line. And that might suit both parties. Give Wilder a couple of easy fights. Fury gets a swansong, either with or without belts. They could even draw AJ into that kind of deal. Under threat that they'll drag it out through the courts and threaten the Undisputed fight happening. They literally cannot drag either Fury or AJ into anything. Why? Because they need a valid contract to be able to do that. They don’t have a valid contract, hence why they were (Team Wilder) going right through mediation. If they could have put a stop to Fury then we would be having litigation, not mediation then litigation. The best they would hope for is the couple of hundred grand for the phone calls and whatnot.

The best Wilder side can hope for is to get a couple of hundred grand for their fruitless efforts, I think they'd be pushing for an agreed trilogy fight down the line. And that might suit both parties. Give Wilder a couple of easy fights. Fury gets a swansong, either with or without belts. They could even draw AJ into that kind of deal. Under threat that they'll drag it out through the courts and threaten the Undisputed fight happening.