You are just being an arse because of Freddie's disabilities.
What do you really want to know? Froid isn't really a good father figure to his kids. How do you expect him to be a father figure to future champions?
Freddie on the other hand was trained by the great Eddie Futch!
Eddie Futch went on to train champions like Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Harry Homes and Trevor Berbick. Four out of the five men who beat the great Muhammad Ali.
Futch also trained Riddiick Bowe, Wayne McCullough.
Futch was in Ali's corner for "The Thrilla in Manila!"
So when you blame Freddie's disabilities you are just showing people how much about boxing you don't know.
He does studder. And he’s still been able to be successful.
It’s worked well for Freddy Roach.
I said it to poke fun it this thread. Freddie has been training for a very long time. Because his illness has advanced now it is affecting him more physically.
I see him training tank and Haney all the time, would he invest time training them full time or this just for show?
https://youtu.be/VAXAzKWmzcY
he seems to be training them on the business side more than anything. don't fight prime fighters, fight old guys with name value!
look at what happened to haney. he becomes feather fisted fighter.. later on he will also become cherrypicker while also fighting for the A side stuff. floyd better go fighting youtubers.
It's interesting how he's not using the pad work him and his uncle (RIP) were known for. I think Floyd could be an amazing trainer, but it would depend on how he would do with all the other factors that play into being a great trainer aside from boxing knowledge.
Floyd is a bit too unique a personality to be a really effective coach.
He could mentor and inspire young kids though.
Obviously he makes it all about himself, that's the real issue.
I wouldn’t say so, he could potential get frustrated as they couldn’t execute what he teaches as he will hold everyone to his standard
also a coach really needs to be first in the gym and last out. If he was any type of coach it would be dropping in and out as a consultant. Couldn’t see him spending hours in the gym prepping things for his fighter, wrapping hands etc
plus if you look at those sparring sessions he presided over in his gym he doesn’t have enough compassion to be a coach
It’s worked well for Freddy Roach.
You are just being an arse because of Freddie's disabilities.
What do you really want to know? Froid isn't really a good father figure to his kids. How do you expect him to be a father figure to future champions?
Freddie on the other hand was trained by the great Eddie Futch!
Eddie Futch went on to train champions like Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Harry Homes and Trevor Berbick. Four out of the five men who beat the great Muhammad Ali.
Futch also trained Riddiick Bowe, Wayne McCullough.
Futch was in Ali's corner for "The Thrilla in Manila!"
So when you blame Freddie's disabilities you are just showing people how much about boxing you don't know.
I doubt it, his ego's too big. Plus just because you know a lot doesn't mean that you can explain it well. Floyd doesn't strike me as a great communicator.
He strikes me as a fighter who will be good with amateurs 'Bringing fighters up from grass roots'.
All the best coaches are really amateur coaches, working day in day out with various fighters and abilities.
I agree with you on this. Floyd would have to train someone as a Kid to learn all the details that floyd would want to teach. I don't think he can take on a pro boxer and help them much. Looking at floyd senior and uncle rogers history tells me this. People think floyd's skill come naturally which to some extent is true but I really believe that it's more from doing certain things over and over as a kid and ramped up the work as he got older. Floyd had the greatness from being honed by high level professional fighters who cared about him and he did not throw that gift away.
Good coaches have a fair amount of losses. You need to know what a loss is. Even better, you probably would be better off being coached by someone who never even went pro but just studies the sport. Pro’s like Mayweather can’t coach because his ego is too big and he would be too hard his fighter. Now I do agree with Prince Kool that if Floyd brought someone up since they were kids, he would fair better. But Mayweather taking a pro and teaching him is a bad idea. Just like Michael Jordan being an NBA coach, it would be terrible.
Another nonsense one is RJJ. Like what the heck is a freak of nature going to teach? How to hit as fast and as hard as him while getting out of harms way? You can’t teach that. Roy will be trying to teach shit that he was able to do and no one else could. You can’t teach reflexes, you develop it over time.
Generally speaking, HOF type athletes haven't made great trainers/managers/coaches. For example, Ted Williams wasn't able to teach anyone how to hit, Denis Savard wasn't much of a hockey coach, and Ryne Sandberg was a terrible baseball manager. There are exceptions. Larry Bird was an excellent coach. However, I think the best coaches tend to be the grinder-type athletes; think Joe Torre and Phil Jackson. Asking somebody like Floyd to teach one how to box would be like asking Picasso how to paint. They are geniuses and one can't teach genius.
Yeah I tend to agree it’s very hard to teach when you were blessed with such natural talent.
Possibly yeah. He has an incredible base of knowledge.
The only issue would be his megalomaniac personality. At some point you have to step back and let the fighter lead the way.
I also think it’s always difficult for great fighters to become great trainers because generally they were blessed with a lot of natural talent. Stuff that worked for them won’t necessarily work for lesser fighters.
Generally speaking, HOF type athletes haven't made great trainers/managers/coaches. For example, Ted Williams wasn't able to teach anyone how to hit, Denis Savard wasn't much of a hockey coach, and Ryne Sandberg was a terrible baseball manager. There are exceptions. Larry Bird was an excellent coach. However, I think the best coaches tend to be the grinder-type athletes; think Joe Torre and Phil Jackson. Asking somebody like Floyd to teach one how to box would be like asking Picasso how to paint. They are geniuses and one can't teach genius.