https://twitter.com/rangerrollins/status/1366803007061581836?s=20
This is one of the fights I've wanted the most. Two strong MWs with very good chins and two fighters who would not take many steps back. Almost guaranteed FOTY type of match ups.
Oh well, Charlo needs to target Benavidez or Plant in 2021.
these are the kind of excuses that Golovkin fans blurt out to justify why he should avoid a threat...
been happening for years
he's fought a lot of guys with better resumes than jermall so that doesnt make much sense. charlo got a close win over the #4 ranked fighter, murata ko'd the #4 guy not too long ago as well. murata also has another top 10 win over ndam while charlo doenst. murata lost badly to brant but charlo prob should have lost to korobov so im not seeing how charlo is some amazing top guy and murata is some bum. american bias? havent seen any dazn fighters leave dazn so that was prob a non starter. why not just go to dazn to get the fights? they tried to get charlo and he turned it down. seems like political games more than anything. gggs contract is tied to dazn not dazn, leave for a ppv, return to dazn. that doesnt make any sense. why would they let him do that? seems dumb from their side and they have him under control. im sure charlo knew this when the offer was made if it was made, relying on uninformed people to take the bait and run with it and oh here you are. informed people know charlo already turned down dazn and fought bums for 4 years straight before fighting another pbc guy
but in 5 years time, those excuses will change to... "he tried to fight the best, but everyone ducked him"
seen it all before
he's fought a lot of guys with better resumes than jermall so that doesnt make much sense. charlo got a close win over the #4 ranked fighter, murata ko'd the #4 guy not too long ago as well. murata also has another top 10 win over ndam while charlo doenst. murata lost badly to brant but charlo prob should have lost to korobov so im not seeing how charlo is some amazing top guy and murata is some bum. american bias? havent seen any dazn fighters leave dazn so that was prob a non starter. why not just go to dazn to get the fights? they tried to get charlo and he turned it down. seems like political games more than anything. gggs contract is tied to dazn not dazn, leave for a ppv, return to dazn. that doesnt make any sense. why would they let him do that? seems dumb from their side and they have him under control. im sure charlo knew this when the offer was made if it was made, relying on uninformed people to take the bait and run with it and oh here you are. informed people know charlo already turned down dazn and fought bums for 4 years straight before fighting another pbc guy
all I am saying is... Golovkin method of choosing the path of least resistance... EVERY... SINGLE... TIME... has not changed
* SIGH *
looks like Chickenkin will never take top fights
he's fought a lot of guys with better resumes than jermall so that doesnt make much sense. charlo got a close win over the #4 ranked fighter, murata ko'd the #4 guy not too long ago as well. murata also has another top 10 win over ndam while charlo doenst. murata lost badly to brant but charlo prob should have lost to korobov so im not seeing how charlo is some amazing top guy and murata is some bum. american bias? havent seen any dazn fighters leave dazn so that was prob a non starter. why not just go to dazn to get the fights? they tried to get charlo and he turned it down. seems like political games more than anything. gggs contract is tied to dazn not dazn, leave for a ppv, return to dazn. that doesnt make any sense. why would they let him do that? seems dumb from their side and they have him under control. im sure charlo knew this when the offer was made if it was made, relying on uninformed people to take the bait and run with it and oh here you are. informed people know charlo already turned down dazn and fought bums for 4 years straight before fighting another pbc guy
https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1367506297042571264?s=20
No truth to this report according to Coppinger!
Hearn was having none of this!
Oh well in case there was any doubt,now I know its true! Coppinger is the same hack that the Atlantic didn't even want.
Come on, man.
Murata lost to Rob Brant.
Demetrius Andrade and Jermall Charlo are both available to Golovkin. He's taking the easy way out.
murata beat the piss out of rob brant the 2nd time.
not to mention brant is a good fighter, he would beat most top middleweights incl. munguia.
murata has better 1 punch KO power than andrade or charlo. more dangerous, more money for GGG.
i think murata is a close fight with charlo, and could be a favorite vs andrade.
Come on, man.
Murata lost to Rob Brant.
Demetrius Andrade and Jermall Charlo are both available to Golovkin. He's taking the easy way out.
I don't like Charlo performance against korbov--I also didn't think he dominated derenaychenko and that was a close fight. One also lost to Tony harrison.....
I think murata Charlo would be close--charlo has never been overly impressive. This goes for both brothers
GGG is a great fighter. I respect his style in the ring and he seems like a good dude. I critique him when warranted as well and have done so many times.
My comments in 'defense' of him are really just in response to his haters who for some reason get super emotional and threatened by some 170 soaking wet MW from BFE. His haters go way overboard in their hate. I point out things like that on here. I do it for any fighter or situation. It just so happens that GGG probably gets more of those types of comments than anyone else.
I call out Rev, or I used to before he blocked me, all the time for the incredibly stupid stuff he says about Crawford as well. Called out Fury fans for their 'Fury is the GOAT' 'Wilder sucks' comments after Fury beat him in fight 2. You can't really hold both of those opinions simultaneously.
If people kept their criticisms of fighters reasonable, I wouldn't call anyone out. But when people go overboard, about any fighter, then yes I will call that out.
Sure, you can call anyone out. No problem with that.
I respect GGG as well. Have said it multiple of times that when matched against another top guy, you will get your money's worth with him more than any other fighter. Every fight is guaranteed to be exciting and competitive.
I just never knocked GGG once in this thread though.
Um, Coppinger hasn't been on PBC on FOX since he signed with The Athletic.
Hearn literally went clubbing with Coppinger for his birthday. It is well known that those two are close and Coppinger often times reports on what Hearn wants him to report. Take for example, Coppinger has NEVER reported on viewing numbers in the UK. Yet for the first two shows during the pandemic that Warren put on, Coppinger started to report the numbers and said he got it from the Nielson ratings. Only problem? Nielson ratings don't exist in the UK! Hearn was telling him those numbers and then when Hearn started to put on shows, magically Coppinger stopped reporting those numbers.
Coppinger on February 4th tweeted that if any fighter wants to comment on MTK or Kinahan for a story he is writing they can....Well, a month later and the story is not out. Why is that? The leaked e-mail that Coppinger reported regarding Lopez and TR trying to collude against DAZN/Matchroom bidding. Who do you think his source was there?
But every reporter is bought in some ways. So it is what it is and not a knock on Coppinger. He does break more stories than anyone else...He gets some wrong too, but from the big names, he is usually out front with stuff.
It isn't exposing me at all. You are clearly feeling a certain away since it involved GGG, which is fine. You like GGG quite a bit and he is one of your favorites. We all have our favorites. But exposing me? Nope, not even close.
And how I presented it? Ha! I literally in my initial post say it is when one of the fights I've wanted for a while and it is a guaranteed action packed fight. Then said Charlo needs to fight Benavidez or Plant in 2021. You are the one that got super upset about it and tried to come to your own conclusion. You implied I am saying GGG turning down the offer means he is ducking Charlo when that was never said.
So yeah, I'm good over here. It is YOU that clearly were upset by something.
GGG is a great fighter. I respect his style in the ring and he seems like a good dude. I critique him when warranted as well and have done so many times.
My comments in 'defense' of him are really just in response to his haters who for some reason get super emotional and threatened by some 170 soaking wet MW from BFE. His haters go way overboard in their hate. I point out things like that on here. I do it for any fighter or situation. It just so happens that GGG probably gets more of those types of comments than anyone else.
I call out Rev, or I used to before he blocked me, all the time for the incredibly stupid stuff he says about Crawford as well. Called out Fury fans for their 'Fury is the GOAT' 'Wilder sucks' comments after Fury beat him in fight 2. You can't really hold both of those opinions simultaneously.
If people kept their criticisms of fighters reasonable, I wouldn't call anyone out. But when people go overboard, about any fighter, then yes I will call that out.
I'm not upset. I'm just calling you out on your bullsh.it. And when you are trying to be slick, just admit it. Because when you try to weasel out of it, as you're doing now, you look like a complete scrub.
Coppinger is on PBC on Fox ALL THE TIME!!!! for example. So the 'he is tight with Hearn' line is a complete bullsh.it excuse and laughable. I honestly can't believe you just tried to throw that bullsh.it out there to try and build some credibility. Lol that is hilarious. Coppinger is literally accused of being a PBC shill all the time, and with good reason.
My point overall was 1) it was obviously a BS story from one side to try and make their guy look good, when in reality that fight has many obstacles to it. And 2) the way you presented the story was very low class, and it exposed you. But you do you. Every time you try to double down and explain it away, it exposes you further, so keep it up.
I already proved my point. It was obviously a bullsh.it story, and you got fooled by it. Because you're obviously kind of a fanboy. So it exposed you and continues to expose you when you try and give the story legitimacy.
Um, Coppinger hasn't been on PBC on FOX since he signed with The Athletic.
Hearn literally went clubbing with Coppinger for his birthday. It is well known that those two are close and Coppinger often times reports on what Hearn wants him to report. Take for example, Coppinger has NEVER reported on viewing numbers in the UK. Yet for the first two shows during the pandemic that Warren put on, Coppinger started to report the numbers and said he got it from the Nielson ratings. Only problem? Nielson ratings don't exist in the UK! Hearn was telling him those numbers and then when Hearn started to put on shows, magically Coppinger stopped reporting those numbers.
Coppinger on February 4th tweeted that if any fighter wants to comment on MTK or Kinahan for a story he is writing they can....Well, a month later and the story is not out. Why is that? The leaked e-mail that Coppinger reported regarding Lopez and TR trying to collude against DAZN/Matchroom bidding. Who do you think his source was there?
But every reporter is bought in some ways. So it is what it is and not a knock on Coppinger. He does break more stories than anyone else...He gets some wrong too, but from the big names, he is usually out front with stuff.
It isn't exposing me at all. You are clearly feeling a certain away since it involved GGG, which is fine. You like GGG quite a bit and he is one of your favorites. We all have our favorites. But exposing me? Nope, not even close.
And how I presented it? Ha! I literally in my initial post say it is when one of the fights I've wanted for a while and it is a guaranteed action packed fight. Then said Charlo needs to fight Benavidez or Plant in 2021. You are the one that got super upset about it and tried to come to your own conclusion. You implied I am saying GGG turning down the offer means he is ducking Charlo when that was never said.
So yeah, I'm good over here. It is YOU that clearly were upset by something.
No, you are definitely upset. There are hardly any threads you see on this site that use the word "Report" in the headline. If Coppinger or Rafael or anyone reports something, that is the headline. We are not reporters needing to use the words "report" or "sources."
I mean Coppinger said it is a BS report, and he is extremely tight with Hearn. Ranger has the PBC sources so it just depends on who you want to believe. No certainty either the report is true or false. Charlo himself said he was told that Golovkin doesn't want it right now so it is clear where Ranger got his report from.
I'm not upset. I'm just calling you out on your bullsh.it. And when you are trying to be slick, just admit it. Because when you try to weasel out of it, as you're doing now, you look like a complete scrub.
Coppinger is on PBC on Fox ALL THE TIME!!!! for example. So the 'he is tight with Hearn' line is a complete bullsh.it excuse and laughable. I honestly can't believe you just tried to throw that bullsh.it out there to try and build some credibility. Lol that is hilarious. Coppinger is literally accused of being a PBC shill all the time, and with good reason.
My point overall was 1) it was obviously a BS story from one side to try and make their guy look good, when in reality that fight has many obstacles to it. And 2) the way you presented the story was very low class, and it exposed you. But you do you. Every time you try to double down and explain it away, it exposes you further, so keep it up.
I already proved my point. It was obviously a bullsh.it story, and you got fooled by it. Because you're obviously kind of a fanboy. So it exposed you and continues to expose you when you try and give the story legitimacy.
Not upset, was just calling you out. And looks like I was right. It was a BS 'report' and shouldn't even be a thread.
No, you are definitely upset. There are hardly any threads you see on this site that use the word "Report" in the headline. If Coppinger or Rafael or anyone reports something, that is the headline. We are not reporters needing to use the words "report" or "sources."
I mean Coppinger said it is a BS report, and he is extremely tight with Hearn. Ranger has the PBC sources so it just depends on who you want to believe. No certainty either the report is true or false. Charlo himself said he was told that Golovkin doesn't want it right now so it is clear where Ranger got his report from.
I posted the headline of the report.
I don't need to "own" up to anything.
I also posted in this thread that this doesn't mean GGG is ducking Charlo or the report even needs to be believed.
I also posted in the thread where Charlo mentions that Haymon told him that Golovkin doesn't want the fight "right now."
I also posted Coppinger's tweet in this thread disputing this report.
New developments come, and they get posted.
Not sure what you are so upset by.
Not upset, was just calling you out. And looks like I was right. It was a BS 'report' and shouldn't even be a thread.
If you're going to do it, you may as well own it. Don't backtrack.
"Gennadiy Golovkin Turns Down Two Fight Offer to Face Jermall Charlo, Targets Murata or Munguia Next ."
That was your headline. If you were just reporting things, you would say 'reportedly' etc, in your title. You would also go into the details of the 'offer'. Acting like this 'offer' is anything more than a move to get attention and clout is silly.
Post the thread then where you've posted the same about Charlo, and I'll at least give you kudos as an equal opportunity troll.
I posted the headline of the report.
I don't need to "own" up to anything.
I also posted in this thread that this doesn't mean GGG is ducking Charlo or the report even needs to be believed.
I also posted in the thread where Charlo mentions that Haymon told him that Golovkin doesn't want the fight "right now."
I also posted Coppinger's tweet in this thread disputing this report.
New developments come, and they get posted.
Not sure what you are so upset by.
Why not? Charlo has turned down DAZN offers in the past.
I never even said anyone has to believe this report or that GGG is ducking Charlo. This is literally what is posted on this site on a daily basis…. Reports from boxing folks.
If you're going to do it, you may as well own it. Don't backtrack.
"Gennadiy Golovkin Turns Down Two Fight Offer to Face Jermall Charlo, Targets Murata or Munguia Next ."
That was your headline. If you were just reporting things, you would say 'reportedly' etc, in your title. You would also go into the details of the 'offer'. Acting like this 'offer' is anything more than a move to get attention and clout is silly.
Post the thread then where you've posted the same about Charlo, and I'll at least give you kudos as an equal opportunity troll.
https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1367506297042571264?s=20
No truth to this report according to Coppinger!
Hearn was having none of this!
I can believe it, maybe when he was a free agent. And was looking at deals from different networks before signing with DAZN.
But there is NO way PBC would offer him a fight with Charlo now or after he signed with DAZN.
PBC likes to work alone, not way would they allow Charlo to make a lot of money by fighting GGG right now.
Lol turns out I had good reason to be scared about those election fraud claims, didn't I?
? I'm assuming you're being sarcastic? I never made a claim that the results of the election would change. Just that there was enough evidence out there to show wrongdoing. And that some of what was out there should be very troubling to any decent person. Months later, I really don't give a sh.it at all.
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