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This is boxing we're talking about and you don't seem to know basic sh*t about it. You don't know much about a Prospect of the Year and appear to have some borderline racial issues on top of that, which is probably why you suck off Haymon so much. Its obvious this is more about emotion for you than actual facts. So we can leave it there for now. Others can decide for themselves if they think PBC does a better job of developing fighters than Golden Boy Promotions. it takes a special kind of idiot(you) to not understand that even canelo became huge on the back of the schaeffer/haymon relationship...putting him on a floyd ppv...then putting them in the the ring together.....those guys did more for building canelo than oscar ever did...all oscar ever did was lose him after riding the wave that schaeffer and haymon helped create you lack the ability to think....the relationship haymon and schaeffer had was mutually beneficial and golden boy was flourishing at the time...strongest its ever been...till oscar showed up lol now the face of oscars company are two kids who havent accomplished anything yet and havent even sold out a 12k seat arena LOL...youre a dunce

This is boxing we're talking about and you don't seem to know basic sh*t about it. You don't know much about a Prospect of the Year and appear to have some borderline racial issues on top of that, which is probably why you suck off Haymon so much. Its obvious this is more about emotion for you than actual facts. So we can leave it there for now. Others can decide for themselves if they think PBC does a better job of developing fighters than Golden Boy Promotions.

What are you trying to say, that all Hispanics look alike? Random pro athlete? Ortiz was Prospect of the Year. You didn't know what you were talking about. It's not the first time. That's cool, just makes you look like a clown. my point flew right over you head as usual.....you are so defensive because you know im right that when i said something factually incorrect about ortiz u had to point it out like it was a reflection of my intelligence level...its not...intelligence is the ability to think critically and logically.....you have shown here you cant...because you cant even understand the difference between the positions oscar and haymon are in right now and how they differ.... LOL@prospect of the year means making it lol...joel julio was prospect of the year once...i guess everyone knows his hometown too...lol i had a brief memory lapse while typing fast and mulitasking that i confused him with victor for a second...that doesnt make your argument stronger

"arghhh i cant think critically and use logic...so when he says something factually incorrect im going to call him dumb too".....how a child or dumb person acts you still cant refute the variables ive produced in regards to the original convo...... facts haymon has much better roster than oscar....and haymon built his roster while working with golden boy before oscar got involved fact haymon/schaeffer made floyd/canelo and also put him on split site floyd cards to build canelo....lol fact haymon has less air time and money and resources to devote to prospects right now because he has a large roster of recognizable veterans fact ryan and ortiz arent stars yet...they have accomplished nothing yet...and are barely past prospect level...both could be great no doubt....

cool..i didnt know where ortiz is from...thatm makes someone dumb lol.....not the ability, or lack thereof, to think critically...lol hey man...without looking it up what state is "insert name of random pro athlete" from? oh you didnt know? you must have a low iq=something someone with a low iq would say.... ortiz, hispanic, texas...garcia, hispanic, california...you get the idea..... great job building fighters oscar...even though they havent really done anything noteworthy yet.....oscar is the greatest at building fighters!!! he has two barely past prospect level fighters!!! congrats! What are you trying to say, that all Hispanics look alike? Random pro athlete? Ortiz was Prospect of the Year. You didn't know what you were talking about. It's not the first time. That's cool, just makes you look like a clown.

Vergil Ortiz is from Texas. You dumb, low IQ muthaf*****. cool..i didnt know where ortiz is from...thatm makes someone dumb lol.....not the ability, or lack thereof, to think critically...lol hey man...without looking it up what state is "insert name of random pro athlete" from? oh you didnt know? you must have a low iq=something someone with a low iq would say.... ortiz, hispanic, texas...garcia, hispanic, california...you get the idea..... great job building fighters oscar...even though they havent really done anything noteworthy yet.....oscar is the greatest at building fighters!!! he has two barely past prospect level fighters!!! congrats!

lol...oscar has "developed" two guys that are hispanic and from california..... Vergil Ortiz is from Texas. You dumb, low IQ muthaf*****.

lol...oscar has "developed" two guys that are hispanic and from california.....and neither guy has done a ppv yet and hasnt even sold out a 12k seat arena....yet a clown is talking like oscar is the best fighter developer the world has ever see....lol this cant be real life.....meanwhile tank has sold out 12k seat arenas in two cities and has a ppv.....not to mention tanks advisor also has a roster full of highly recognizable stars and names in which he must feed by providing money and air time to..... and oscar has exactly who else to devote time, money and attention to? lol....even when had canelo that wasnt all that much either...canelo, ry and ortiz.....and most of the heavy lifting making canelo into a household name was done while oscar was globetrotting with money grubbing whores and coke

as if an 89 yr old gives a damn about you lot lol.

Yeah I agree, with all the airtime and roster PBC has they cant seem to find the magic yet. They certainly haven't yet. Oscar lost almost all his roster and ended up on DAZN...yet still does better develooing fighters than PBC with Fox.

You're the one that's dumb, homie. Trying to give credit to Al Haymon for Golden Boy's fighters. Then making excuses for the fact that Oscar does a better job developing boxers without Haymon than Haymon does without Oscar. There's one common variable in that equation, the proof is in the pudding. If you don't get it then maybe you simply don't understand variables as well as you think you do. no i understand them quite well....haymon and schaeffer put floyd/canelo together...which had as much to do with launching canelo as anything that oscar ever did..... oscar doesnt do a better job developing boxers....you have ortiz and ryan who have done nothing yet.....and thats all you can show me.....i can show you a list of stars al has that hes developed over time...and i can show you tank...and i can show you prospects he has that he will develope when the time is right and he needs a new breed.....that will happen...just like he did with tank again...you can grasp that al cant devote the resources to prospects like oscar can right now because oscar doesnt have **** otherwise and haymon has tons of named mouths to feed...its really simple...youre a dunce the pbc is in a much STRONGER position than golden boy right now....and thats because haymon is haymon and oscar is oscar.....congrats on him making ryan garcia and ortiz...who have done NOTHING of note yet and havent even done a ppv or sold out a 12k arena lol

It was Oscar's company, if Schaefer and Haymon were misleading him about the contracts of the fighters then that is scumbag shit on the part of those two. PBC has proven to be mostly horrible at building up fighters on their own though. And Schaefer is out of business. Whereas Oscar keeps coming with guys like Vergil Ortiz and Ryan Garcia...so maybe karma is seeing that justice is served in the end. Yeah I agree, with all the airtime and roster PBC has they cant seem to find the magic yet.

haymon was doing the work with schaeffer building all of the guys haymon has now that are established stars...that is proven fact...its just someone like you who refused to acknowledge truth and fact lol.... im not missing you with low iq ****...because every time you speak on this subject you show how ignorant you are...and cant understand variables i can run down haymons whole roster of established stars he helped build with schaeffer and also give you a list of prospects he has......when i run down what oscar has its ortiz and ryan....you cant refute anything ive said with any logical proof fact-haymon has roster of established stars...which he must find money and fights for...he takes care of the veterans....he also has prospects he can push when the time is right....he doesnt devote as much resources to them now because he doesnt have to oscar must devote his resources to ryan and ortiz because its all he has.... YOU ARE DUMB....or just afraid to face reality... you do realize al was building all of the guys he has now while oscar was out doing god knows what right? what fight helped launch canelos name to millions and millions of of people? oh thats right...floyd/canelo..lol...wonder who was responsible for that You're the one that's dumb, homie. Trying to give credit to Al Haymon for Golden Boy's fighters. Then making excuses for the fact that Oscar does a better job developing boxers without Haymon than Haymon does without Oscar. There's one common variable in that equation, the proof is in the pudding. If you don't get it then maybe you simply don't understand variables as well as you think you do.

You can blame the victim all you want. What Haymon and Schaeffer did was underhanded and unethical. Point blank. You can miss me with the low IQ nonsense. At the end of the day Oscar has been badly screwed over yet he STILL manages to build fighters beter than PBC. The track record proves it. Hopefully Gervonta Davis doesn't get put in prison for his hit-and-run otherwise Haymon won't even have that star he can take credit for developing. haymon was doing the work with schaeffer building all of the guys haymon has now that are established stars...that is proven fact...its just someone like you who refused to acknowledge truth and fact lol.... im not missing you with low iq ****...because every time you speak on this subject you show how ignorant you are...and cant understand variables i can run down haymons whole roster of established stars he helped build with schaeffer and also give you a list of prospects he has......when i run down what oscar has its ortiz and ryan....you cant refute anything ive said with any logical proof fact-haymon has roster of established stars...which he must find money and fights for...he takes care of the veterans....he also has prospects he can push when the time is right....he doesnt devote as much resources to them now because he doesnt have to oscar must devote his resources to ryan and ortiz because its all he has.... YOU ARE DUMB....or just afraid to face reality... you do realize al was building all of the guys he has now while oscar was out doing god knows what right? what fight helped launch canelos name to millions and millions of of people? oh thats right...floyd/canelo..lol...wonder who was responsible for that

they werent robbed if oscar didnt come in and stick his nose in where it wasnt before....where was oscar when he let schaeffer run his company...all of the sudden he comes out of nowhere and tries to break it up...... your 2nd paragraph just screams "low iq"...you ever heard of variables? do you know what they are and where they exist in this scenario? its not an excuse...its fact..haymon has a much larger list of established names to get money and air time for......i can list them all but you should already know all the names.....whats oscars roster consisting of as far as established stars? its simple logic...which is why you have a hard time following....if all haymon has was ortiz and ry theyd be just as known as they are now.....but he has plenty of already established stars which he helped build at golden boy with schaeffer....and also theres tank...who has sold out two cities at 12k apiece and has a ppv....which one of ortiz or ry has done that? when haymon needs to build more stars he will...hes done and knows how....he just doesnt push all of the prospects as hard and as fast because he doesnt need them....without ortiz and ry right now golden boy would be virtually NOTHING...and you know this....try applying logic to the argument...if you do that youll see the error in you thinking You can blame the victim all you want. What Haymon and Schaeffer did was underhanded and unethical. Point blank. You can miss me with the low IQ nonsense. At the end of the day Oscar has been badly screwed over yet he STILL manages to build fighters beter than PBC. The track record proves it. Hopefully Gervonta Davis doesn't get put in prison for his hit-and-run otherwise Haymon won't even have that star he can take credit for developing.

I'll keep going over it any time I see you defending the shady robbery of Oscar's roster of fighters by Haymon and Schaeffer. Your stubborn refusal to admit that Oscar is superior at building fighters than Haymon is one of the most biased takes I've seen. You keep trying to come up with excuses for it (oh, Haymon has to find fights for a lot of fighters, doe) instead of simply acknowledging it. they werent robbed if oscar didnt come in and stick his nose in where it wasnt before....where was oscar when he let schaeffer run his company...all of the sudden he comes out of nowhere and tries to break it up...... your 2nd paragraph just screams "low iq"...you ever heard of variables? do you know what they are and where they exist in this scenario? its not an excuse...its fact..haymon has a much larger list of established names to get money and air time for......i can list them all but you should already know all the names.....whats oscars roster consisting of as far as established stars? its simple logic...which is why you have a hard time following....if all haymon has was ortiz and ry theyd be just as known as they are now.....but he has plenty of already established stars which he helped build at golden boy with schaeffer....and also theres tank...who has sold out two cities at 12k apiece and has a ppv....which one of ortiz or ry has done that? when haymon needs to build more stars he will...hes done and knows how....he just doesnt push all of the prospects as hard and as fast because he doesnt need them....without ortiz and ry right now golden boy would be virtually NOTHING...and you know this....try applying logic to the argument...if you do that youll see the error in you thinking

how many times do we have to go over this? haymon has a huge roster of guys to pay and find air time for.....oscar has ortiz and ryan....lol your take, which youve been repeating, has to be one of the lowest iq, dumb, takes ive seen...and ive showed you many times even when oscar had canelo...it was basically canelo...and ryan and ortiz.... now think of all the guys that haymon has to find fights for... haymon has also already made tank into a household name and has a few young prospects he can prob do the same with when the time is right....guys like colbert, fulton, figueroa, mielnicki, morrell etc....those guys could already be on the level of ry or ortiz if they were pushed as hard.....but they arent because al has tons of big name mouths to feed.....oscar doesnt schaeffer and haymon had golden boy running smooth...the company was a good/big as ever.....and putting floyd/canelo in together did wonders for building canelo....as well as big business.....thats reality....they did as much for canelo as oscar ever did...... if you gave al haymon just ortiz jr and ryan garcia to work on hed have them in the same spot or better...he has much deeper pool of talent to work for you cant refute any of this with sound logic either....just your retreaded, horrible, take I'll keep going over it any time I see you defending the shady robbery of Oscar's roster of fighters by Haymon and Schaeffer. Your stubborn refusal to admit that Oscar is superior at building fighters than Haymon is one of the most biased takes I've seen. You keep trying to come up with excuses for it (oh, Haymon has to find fights for a lot of fighters, doe) instead of simply acknowledging it.

It was Oscar's company, if Schaefer and Haymon were misleading him about the contracts of the fighters then that is scumbag shit on the part of those two. PBC has proven to be mostly horrible at building up fighters on their own though. And Schaefer is out of business. Whereas Oscar keeps coming with guys like Vergil Ortiz and Ryan Garcia...so maybe karma is seeing that justice is served in the end. how many times do we have to go over this? haymon has a huge roster of guys to pay and find air time for.....oscar has ortiz and ryan....lol your take, which youve been repeating, has to be one of the lowest iq, dumb, takes ive seen...and ive showed you many times even when oscar had canelo...it was basically canelo...and ryan and ortiz.... now think of all the guys that haymon has to find fights for... haymon has also already made tank into a household name and has a few young prospects he can prob do the same with when the time is right....guys like colbert, fulton, figueroa, mielnicki, morrell etc....those guys could already be on the level of ry or ortiz if they were pushed as hard.....but they arent because al has tons of big name mouths to feed.....oscar doesnt schaeffer and haymon had golden boy running smooth...the company was a good/big as ever.....and putting floyd/canelo in together did wonders for building canelo....as well as big business.....thats reality....they did as much for canelo as oscar ever did...... if you gave al haymon just ortiz jr and ryan garcia to work on hed have them in the same spot or better...he has much deeper pool of talent to work for you cant refute any of this with sound logic either....just your retreaded, horrible, take

"my whole experience in boxing" thats the problem with guys like him...he cant stand change..he longs for the days, and never wants to relinquish, when the promoter is boss and the fighters just do what they say for a check...lol......" i have a contract"....thats why oscar came in and tore up golden boy when schaeffer had a good thing going through his partnership haymon..."ughh i dont understand this why arent these guys signed to exclusive contracts....ughhh yeah so what if my company is thriving this makes no sense i dont get it ughhh"...lol bob..you fight no one...these guys dont really GAF about you It was Oscar's company, if Schaefer and Haymon were misleading him about the contracts of the fighters then that is scumbag shit on the part of those two. PBC has proven to be mostly horrible at building up fighters on their own though. And Schaefer is out of business. Whereas Oscar keeps coming with guys like Vergil Ortiz and Ryan Garcia...so maybe karma is seeing that justice is served in the end.

Damn that Teofimo and Kambosos! Trying to get more money than their promoters want to give them. How dare they?