Thurman, Spence, and Hypocrisy

He was overrated as ****, just like Porter is still overrated as ****. I don't know why people are still doing this bit where beating Porter makes you an elite fighter.

I don't remember people saying Keith was a hype job at any point in his career, let alone after those wins. I could careless about any P4P list, but boxing is about how you get moved & who you're with. Iirc Spence was on the P4P list as early as beating Lamont Peterson! I remember when Broner was on the P4P list. Shìt is like an attention list. You can literally talk your way to a list. But the list in itself is a whole nother discussion. I'll say this tho to add context tho. Errol beat Lamont, Mikey, & Brook before those guys mentioned in the OP. & to me he beat Brook when he was arguably the best 147 at the time. & his Brook win TO ME is better than both his aforementioned wins in the OP! So then adding Porter & DSG it's not unreasonable at all for him to be on the mythical list.

What we're you honest about? Is Crawford Not a 3 weight world champion? ARE Thurman or Porter or Spence? Ive got no issue with any of those 4, all good fighters but let's not try crap on the one that doesn't fight for the promoter you are a fan of. Respect them all. Or atleast make sense and take everything in to account for your hatred of non PBC Crawford. Dont pretend he has done nothing when he has done more than any of the others. Come on now. U telling me that Crawford has fought more tuff opposition than Porter? Thurman, Spence? Pac? Delahoya? Mosley? He’ll even Mayweather fought more big name opponents even though they were past their prime. I like Crawford but he hasn’t done NOTHING as far as fighting the best. I could give a sheeit about promoters, managers or advisers. Fk them all.

I guess honesty OFFENDS U. Dont worry, your boy Trump will be back. What we're you honest about? Is Crawford Not a 3 weight world champion? ARE Thurman or Porter or Spence? Ive got no issue with any of those 4, all good fighters but let's not try crap on the one that doesn't fight for the promoter you are a fan of. Respect them all. Or atleast make sense and take everything in to account for your hatred of non PBC Crawford. Dont pretend he has done nothing when he has done more than any of the others.

If he makes a good point then make a new thread for that point. Why ignore the point of the thread by hiding behind a different fighter. And if we want to compare Thurman and Spence to Crawford can Thurman and Spence both also claim to be undisputed or even champions in 3 weight divisions? I guess honesty OFFENDS U. Dont worry, your boy Trump will be back.

How come when Thurman beat Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia, everyone said Keith was a complete hype job who did not deserve to be on the p4p list? How come when Spence beat Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia, everyone is saying Spence is top 5 p4p, some say top 3, some say 1? These same people are going to be okay with Spence ducking Thurman. Don't put too much thought into it.

Thurman was on the p4p list until he got KTFO by a journeyman in Josesito and lost to a 40 year old pac and remained inactive for 2 years after. How come Thurman refuses to fight a top 5 welterweight? And why is he suddenly #1 in the division? This, OP is talking about things Thurman did 4 and 4.5 years ago. And yes despite what OP claims, Thurman WAS ranked highly at welter back then. Why should he be rated so highly today

How come when Thurman beat Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia, everyone said Keith was a complete hype job who did not deserve to be on the p4p list? How come when Spence beat Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia, everyone is saying Spence is top 5 p4p, some say top 3, some say 1? Its all about pushing narratives and agendas.

I think he makes a good point. Why? If he makes a good point then make a new thread for that point. Why ignore the point of the thread by hiding behind a different fighter. And if we want to compare Thurman and Spence to Crawford can Thurman and Spence both also claim to be undisputed or even champions in 3 weight divisions?

I edited it for you. Smartass. Try posting factual information to make your arguments, maybe you can lose that red rep.

because ******s think Thurman is worse because he lost to Pacquiao.

Josesito knocked out Thurman? When? I edited it for you. Smartass.

Thurman was on the p4p list until he got KTFO by a journeyman in Josesito and lost to a 40 year old pac and remained inactive for 2 years after. How come Thurman refuses to fight a top 5 welterweight? And why is he suddenly #1 in the division? Josesito knocked out Thurman? When?

All I know is that Americans need to stop having like 3-4 guys in the 'top 10 p4p' lists where all 3-4 of the guys are in the same division and haven't faced each other. That's not how it's supposed to work. P4p should be abolished all together.

Stick to the topic I think he makes a good point. Why?

First and foremost, p4p is absolute trash. Doesnt matter whose list it is. Second, the answer to your question is more about fans of boxers vs fans of the SPORT of boxing. Those are good wins for thurman AND good wins for spence. And its inactivity thats stalled thurman career, regardless of the reason for it.

Thurman was on the p4p list until he got damn near KTFO by a journeyman in Josesito and lost to a 40 year old pac and remained inactive for 2 years after. How come Bud refuses to fight a top 5 welterweight? And why is he suddenly #1 in the division?

Because Thurman ran at the end of both fights while Errol took the fight to Danny and Shawn Porter.

Better question, how come Crawford won't fight any of the three? Stick to the topic

All I know is that Americans need to stop having like 3-4 guys in the 'top 10 p4p' lists where all 3-4 of the guys are in the same division and haven't faced each other. That's not how it's supposed to work.