So tired of these Fury posts comparing him to some greats.
He is so overrated, (just like his last opponent). Actual boxing observers are aware of the FACT that this guy has been dropped by Pajkic, Cunningham and windmill Wilder (who himself has only the wins against Ortiz to brag about, and that aint much).
Fury went life and death with the great Otto Wallin. How is Fury supposed to keep AJ off him all night? It just won't happen (and maybe the fight itself won't happen, Fury knows to stay away from Whyte and AJ, but hopefully the money is so good we will see it happen).
Here is Fury looking ****e against very low competition, which is what he usually faces (Pianeta, Wallin, Schwartz, Seferi etc).
Can't wait, free money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L52oEnKQ_ys
Lol. Loving all the imaginary accolades for Fury in your quote.
Wanna make a bet that he ducks AJ? I can tell that already. You can't see it, because you are suffering from a lack of discernment.
You've also got a quote from a rambling old liar with something about aliens and stuff - to support your point.
Why do I bother?
Imaginary accolades? Fury has already won every title that Joshua currently owns, and also has the WBC title that Joshua has never won.
I'm stating that every credible ranking body has Fury as #1, I think I'll trust the panels of experts who compile those rankings over a matchroom casual such as yourself.
As for the quote, it's only a joke, have a day off lad.
So tired of these Fury posts comparing him to some greats.
He is so overrated, (just like his last opponent). Actual boxing observers are aware of the FACT that this guy has been dropped by Pajkic, Cunningham and windmill Wilder (who himself has only the wins against Ortiz to brag about, and that aint much).
Fury went life and death with the great Otto Wallin. How is Fury supposed to keep AJ off him all night? It just won't happen (and maybe the fight itself won't happen, Fury knows to stay away from Whyte and AJ, but hopefully the money is so good we will see it happen).
Here is Fury looking ****e against very low competition, which is what he usually faces (Pianeta, Wallin, Schwartz, Seferi etc).
Can't wait, free money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L52oEnKQ_ys
I saw it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L52oEnKQ_ys
See the 1:44 mark of the above link. Fury goes down, gets up with some balance issues, rests on the ropes then goes back to clinching once the action resumes. He was hurt by Pajkic, a weak punching heavyweight with a 27.7 KO percentage. Pajkic has modest skills, but he was aggressive and Fury had problems with it.
No way Fury's chin will take a solid right hand by Joshua.
Casuals like Froch_Uppercut are going to make Fury fans very rich.
Put your life savings on the fight mate, I dare you.
Lol. Loving all the imaginary accolades for Fury in your quote.
Wanna make a bet that he ducks AJ? I can tell that already. You can't see it, because you are suffering from a lack of discernment.
You've also got a quote from a rambling old liar with something about aliens and stuff - to support your point.
Why do I bother?
As I keep saying. Joshua's entire image is tailor made for losers and underachievers, its obvious from the way you even speak.
Haha. Your powers of deduction are way off the mark.
Wait what year was this fight? I don’t get why people bring up fights were a boxer was still learning their trade, I remember Spence getting hurt by some African guy and everyone uses that to question him, in a fight that happened years ago. You work on things and learn when you are coming up, you cannot compare the Canelo that fought Matthew Hatton to the one that fought Smith.
Spoken like a true casual.
As I keep saying. Joshua's entire image is tailor made for losers and underachievers, its obvious from the way you even speak.
Fury can win if A.J tires out .
But I know betting on someone tiring out goes wrong almost always . The entire Forum almost says A.J has stamina issues ,what they fail to realize he almost doesn’t give up any rounds and a high punch out out and say he looks winded .
These type of groups continue to lose money betting against him ,they haven’t figured out he is learning punch out put every fight much like a young Wlad Klitschko and looks unbeatable when he adjusts to that if someone is still standing.
A.J will win this one . It’s the fight he’s actually should look his best going into it and that’s not good at all for Fury ,who’s team better have him at peak performance otherwise it will be a onslaught by A.J and end it by mid rounds if not rattle Fury and have him fighting on egg shells throughout 12 rounds .I’m not sure people are blind or trolls not seeing how A.J has most advantages going into it .
The hell? Pulev was a +700 underdog...who exactly is losing money???
If i was AJ i'd take a tune up fight against Wallin. He would murder that ****ing bum in 3 rounds and put Fury into perspective.
Fury is one of the worst HW champs of all time. Absolute garbage CV full of total trash. Other than running away from Klit and stopping the one-punch bum Wilder he's done **** all to deserve the accolades he gets.
I hope AJ smashes this tramp into another retirement.
Fury can win if A.J tires out .
But I know betting on someone tiring out goes wrong almost always . The entire Forum almost says A.J has stamina issues ,what they fail to realize he almost doesn’t give up any rounds and a high punch out out and say he looks winded .
These type of groups continue to lose money betting against him ,they haven’t figured out he is learning punch out put every fight much like a young Wlad Klitschko and looks unbeatable when he adjusts to that if someone is still standing.
A.J will win this one . It’s the fight he’s actually should look his best going into it and that’s not good at all for Fury ,who’s team better have him at peak performance otherwise it will be a onslaught by A.J and end it by mid rounds if not rattle Fury and have him fighting on egg shells throughout 12 rounds .I’m not sure people are blind or trolls not seeing how A.J has most advantages going into it .
Joshua can go 12 easily.
He has done it before, and against better opposition than Fury.
I will grant that Fury went 12 against Wlad, but have you ever seen a more lethargic effort over 12 rounds than that borefest? Fury hardly threw a punch and won anyway.
TF has zero stamina advantage against Joshua. He has no advantages whatsoever.
He will lose.
The problem is, that he knows he loses, and might avoid.
All the casuals will be on Fury.
The ITK boxing heads will have well gotten on AJ by then.
This is an absolute lock.
Fury is so bad, he likely won't take the fight.
The bs we have been.sold (and many have been.unable to see through) these past few years, with a narrative of an amazing puncher versus a slick stick and mover = complete bulls**t.
Actual boxing people see this. Joshua is a vastly superior boxer to Fury, has more power, a better chin, hits from more angles, has a better variety of punches, has stamina galore - he beats Fury in every department including current resume.
Keep drinking that propaganda cool aid bro- ill be over here cashing in.
I wonder if you can get odds of the fight not happening- because I really believe Fury will duck, like Wilder did.
Spoken like a true casual.
The odds will shorten yea, when the fight is announced/ a week away from fight it will be a pick em near enough because all the casuals will put money on AJ.
All the casuals will be on Fury.
The ITK boxing heads will have well gotten on AJ by then.
This is an absolute lock.
Fury is so bad, he likely won't take the fight.
The bs we have been.sold (and many have been.unable to see through) these past few years, with a narrative of an amazing puncher versus a slick stick and mover = complete bulls**t.
Actual boxing people see this. Joshua is a vastly superior boxer to Fury, has more power, a better chin, hits from more angles, has a better variety of punches, has stamina galore - he beats Fury in every department including current resume.
Keep drinking that propaganda cool aid bro- ill be over here cashing in.
I wonder if you can get odds of the fight not happening- because I really believe Fury will duck, like Wilder did.
The odds will shorten yea, when the fight is announced/ a week away from fight it will be a pick em near enough because all the casuals will put money on AJ.
All the casuals will be on Fury.
The ITK boxing heads will have well gotten on AJ by then.
This is an absolute lock.
Fury is so bad, he likely won't take the fight.
The bs we have been.sold (and many have been.unable to see through) these past few years, with a narrative of an amazing puncher versus a slick stick and mover = complete bulls**t.
Actual boxing people see this. Joshua is a vastly superior boxer to Fury, has more power, a better chin, hits from more angles, has a better variety of punches, has stamina galore - he beats Fury in every department including current resume.
Keep drinking that propaganda cool aid bro- ill be over here cashing in.
I wonder if you can get odds of the fight not happening- because I really believe Fury will duck, like Wilder did.
I'm black myself and I actually have a liking for Wilder so believe what you will. Also seriously, steroids? You think Joshua is clean? You think any of the top guys are clean? Both Wilder and Joshua ballooned in weight until they got onto the clean boxing program. Fury has already been caught. Its just the game, trying to discredit Holyfields achievements because of such is ****ing lame.
Dillian Whyte is a bum and Wlad could have taken the fight had he not let his foot off the pedal. Even then, yes it was his most spirited performance and an impressive one...but Wlad was 41 and off for 16 months. I want to see him in with a live dog who hasn't shown up for a payday...and there are plenty. Fury, Usyk, Wilder, Joyce, Hrgovic, Yoka, even Dubois. Kinda tired of being made to believe because he soundly beats some old hasbeen, I'm meant to praise his performances as wonderful. Who has Pulev beaten? Hughie Fury? Bogdan Dinu...just look at how one dimensional he looked.
The 90s era was all that hence why it had some of the best heavyweights in it. This is what kills me about you ****ing idiot Joshua fans. You think he is the beginning and end of boxing and he's barely even a top 30 all time heavyweight. The 90s era consistently had top fights and guys like Lewis making a mockery of guys that we admire even now.
Lewis, Holyfield and Tyson ****ing earned their stripes. One has om of the deepest resumes in heavyweight boxing, the other cleaned out cruiserweight and went on to beat all time greats like Tyson and Foreman. Tyson is the youngest heavyweight champion of all time. What are Joshua's achievements in comparison, having a bunch of bum ass uk dickriders who will laud performances against rhe mighty likes of Pulev and Charles Martin? Names that will NEVER make any kind of ATG list.
1) a few yrs back, Fury was not taken too seriously despite his stature and unbeaten record. The 3 guys everyone was looking to, in fact 4..were Wilder, AJ, Parker and Ortiz.
I liked Wilder because of the backstory of his daughter, his marraige, 7 kids..and in his 2012 post fight he said
"it's important to also thank God in loss not just in victory" or something to that effect. it was vs a guy called kelvin prince.
when wilder came to the uk and dropped audley harrison with only ONE punch, even aj was in the audience laughing.
the point is everyone in the uk liked wilder and he was really at home in sheffield during the build up to that GBP/Amir khan card.
the problem was, at that stage the question was 'why hasnt he stepped up yet'?
i used to blame Oscar, i thought 'he cares more about the mexican fanbase many of whom are racist evidently from what im reading online' so when wilder switched to pbc his first fight was for the wbc belt..
so all up until then, i was a fan of wilder.
where it went downhill is he turned into this complete typical black american moron with the jewellery and big ego. then as aj was coming up it started becoming obv he was not only not stepping up, he was outright hating on aj.
parker i remained a fan of, i like the guy. unlucky loss to whyte, he'll beat whyte in a rematch.
im a big fan of whyte..what a guy..
Fury went downhill as soon as he started twisting stories and exaggerating, hating etc.
i used to find him very funny and entertaining. Fury is still likeable for example he still lives in Morcambe in a normal house big house. shops in b & m store (a discount store) right after beating wilder? respect that. just don't like his antics and his dad with it, butt hen it's also mind games. it's probably more his weak racist fanbase, most of whom are not real fans and used to be fake kell brook fans when they were chanelling their inner hitler on amir khan (who i now think is a complete bellend too).
sorry for the essays. just saying.
2) the steroid use..
fury got caught, he and aj still get drug tested. the only time i feel aj was on stuff is right after the olympics..and it was HGH...
but that harmed him as a boxer. his physique was only there for marketing/money and that brought a lot of eyes to the division, so i cant hate on that.
yeh i do diss fury for the nandrolone, i was on his side until he blagged it and contradicted himse
first it was 'i have naturally high hgh'
then it was 'i ate an uncastrated boar'
however EVAN FIELDS was a notorious case..his jump from CW to HW was heavily dependant on the juice.
as for growing..let me just say that no one adds 20lbs of MUSCLE, sure...
but you do gain 20lbs of MASS EASILY..i have done over a 5 month period and it was EASY, just lifting and eating a load of food..and that's in my 30s bro. seriously.
ive had 2 phases where ive added 20lbs over asimilar time period from bulking.
id say maybe 40-50% of that was fat
then you got the water/glycogen
eitherway, when i started cutting in my 20s, i trimmed bigtime later (got more into cardio/running/cycling) but didnt lose strenth hence i didnt really lose muscle mass. my arms were noticably skinnier.
i did take creatine the first time mind you but it also caused some hairloss
the point is if i can do that then those guys can easily do more.
a 6ft 6 guy in his early 20s, would easily add 20-40lbs over a few yrs.
if aj added 15lbs of fat, 5lbs of water
trained a lot and got that pumped look, he'd look more muscular and would be stronger...but in reality they're useless gains other than the strength.
3)
Fury, Usyk, Wilder, Joyce, Hrgovic, Yoka, even Dubois.
that's a nonsense example
fury was 3 yrs out and decided to take various tune ups and Wilder to avoid AJ, allow it to simmer and become huge like it is now. hence he rejected a £28m offer for the 2018 date.
Usyk has only just come up.
Wilder...fake $50m offer followed by foul play and delay tactics from showtime, waited for the canelo-ggg fight to clash with the aj-wilder proposed fight, then demand a change in date, in turn used it as their convenient excuse. what was that? they just used aj to build up wilder.
joyce, hrgovic, yoka, dubois again they've only just started coming up. aj spars with joyce a lot.
yoka took nandrolone too didnt he?
aj has been in with whyte and parker though. exactly the type of 'young guy not looking for a payday' but you'll conveniently claim otherwise because of how those fights turned out.
i know the ref was poor in the parker fight, but i lost some respect for parker that fight.
he goaded aj with 'you cant go the distance with me' only to get told 'ill prove you wrong'
post-fight 'aj didnt try to knock me out'
not forgetting that there was a clip (i cant find it) where parker's mum had spoken about being 'scared for my son', so aj got a call to her, spoke to her personally and told her 'dont be scared' etc. i dont even think aj wanted to hurt parker going into that fight after all that.
he didnt choose to have pulev and povetkin as mandatories.
who did wilder and fury beat then? apart from fighting each other they also fought bums.
4) tyson late 80s and holyfield early 90s was probably the better part of the 90s generation
i was too young to know about that era..
but
the guys they were beating were really past it
these days a 40 yr old is in better nick than a 40 yr old back then.
larry holmes was 43 when he got beat by holyfield.
foreman was 42.
aj doesnt get much credit by you guys for beating wladmir klitschko and povetkin, but they were younger.
he's beaten whyte and parker.
so what's the problem?
we've seen dubois vs joyce, whyte vs chisora, whyte vs parker..
we've seen great fights, aj vs ruiz, obv wilder vs fury, wilder vs ortiz
this is a far better period...
and then there are many other guys who havent fought yet, but in time they will
so why the hate?
my point really is that you hype lennox lewis and holyfield, but lewis's only competition was a cruiserweight, a coke addict and frank bruno
riddick bowe vs lewis didnt happen.
what/who else? not as great as you're making out.
example
lennox lewis
after his loss to mccall, he fought 2 tune ups..
i dont know about mandatories but the likes of golata, mavrovic, botha would be 'bums' today.
it seems someone like aj is not allowed to beat a guy like pulev but lennox lewis could fight anyone he liked.
bs..
in no particular order
tyson fury
hughie fury
wilder
aj
whyte
ortiz
povetkin
parker
hrgovic
hunter
ruiz
ajagba
yoka
dubois
joe joyce
pulev
dychko
otto wallin
wardley
adeleye
majidov
babic
thee are other guys too
forget ranking them, in terms of just pure hype, i want to see them ALL fight each other..and boxing has to find a way to deliver that
instead, it wont happen because we will see the mid-tier guys keep on fighting bums no one has heard of with mishaps inbetween.
i get the occasional tune up fight, im ok with that, but otherwise i want to see it all kick off.
ill be disappointed...if for example one day i think 'i didnt get to see majidov vs andy ruiz' or 'alen babic vs wilder'(random examples)
they wont happen those type of fights..but they would all be great fights to watch.
Tyson Fury was mocked and ridiculed for 90% of his career 'It was around the Martin Rogan fight and Chisora rematch? Did Fury start to improve, and show his genus'.
But make no doubt about it, there is a clumsy kid still living inside of Tyson Fury. All the things David Haye stated in the build up to their fight 'Was partial true'.
This heavyweight division is extremely competitive, nobody is untouchable 'Nobody is levels above the following pack'.
Tyson Fury maybe in terms of naturally ability? is 1 level above the following pack 'But the following pack has something he does not have in abundance, some of those guys can hit real hard and are naturally stronger fighters' etc.
I find fanatics on both sides to be annoying as hell.
They're both decent heavyweights in a kinda weak era. No more, no less.
Let them fight three times for some fun and move on.
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