Wilder Deserves More Respect for the Stiverne Win

It's noble to try but ain't no one listening. Firstly, no one will admit it but I've been here long enough to know most of our current posters are kinda new to the sport. They might have watched but only became avid fans on the heels of Joshua's rise. Joshua doesn't get enough credit for bringing boxing up in general. Used to be the same folks until Money fights. Used to have a lot more slavs too. :lol1: They came in repeating **** they heard on Youtube like "Wilder's never fought a top ten" then you show him he has and they add legitimate. They pick and choose who was a real top ten and who isn't. Under that mindset they feel free to pick and choose who was a legitimate prospect, champion, or contender. Funny how everyone else's ranks and title are legit but Wilder's wins are not. Bunch of kids who didn't even watch Chris rise up the ranks cried because Chris got the fight then said Chris was never legitimate. Same kids who didn't even watch Bermane go through the WBC then say **** like Wilder picked up Vitali's vacant....because they're that clueless. Same kids tell me Tony Thompson is legit but Sam Peter ain't. Dude, they just did not watch the k2 years and definitely paid no attention to the division. Cry about overnight ranking and mandos like that wasn't Wlad's bag. Cry about names as if they weren't men who were meant to face Klitschko. Call Wlad an ATG but cry about everything he left to Wilder to clean up in the same fashion he used to. Chris was the man who was meant to win, Bermane was an upset. Bermane was as real a champion as anyone Wlad ever beat but **** that because we now say anyone every holding a title or rank beat by Wilder ain't legit. Wilder didn't come up looking to fight Anthony ****ing Joshua. Wilder was on track for Vitali who was the champion most thought would win in a h2h between the k2 bros. It's all a bunch of ****, but hey, some *******s who just picked up their post count in ****ing 2016 got other opinions. I remember when Arreola was the next big thing, "The Nightmare". Simply didn't live up to the hype. His title fight with Stiverne seemed to appear out of thin air as far as I was concerned. Wilder boxed pretty well to beat Stiverne but neither man looked special and Wilder, who boxed fairly well on the night, would go to fight a bunch of patsies and fail to develop beyond his straight right. Wilder on track to fight Vitali is interesting. I never saw that fight happening at all and I doubt he retired just to escape Wilder. Then of course you've got Finkel's "baby champion" speech when asked about Wlad. This instantly casts Stiverne as inferior, which was the general opinion at the time anyway.

- -U ring ain't The Ring...Duh! I'm not a Wilder fan by any means but this is just a fact that many skip over. Stiverne was ranked top 10 both times Wilder beat him.

Stiverne was ranked at #2 by The Ring. - -U ring ain't The Ring...Duh!

Yeah Stiverne was good, he had a draw with a 17-17 fighter and was KO'd by a guy who was 11-15. He also beat Arreola twice. ATG fighter until he meet Wilder and career over, what more can I say. He should have ducked Wilder and defended against Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka and Washington. 4 of the easiest defense in history. If only Stiverne was with Al instead of Don. Unlike you, I watch the fights, I don’t check boxrec. Stiverne’s “KO Loss” is a bad stoppage even by UK stoppage standards.

It was a great win for King Wilder. Real boxing fans know.

- -The OP has a fetish for jiggling male tltties. Go figure... So you hear the word "Stiverne" and automatically think about his juggling breasts?

I’ve mentioned a lot that Stiverne was considered a big favorite at the time, and was even ranked #2 in the division, but people only see what they want. No way was Stiverne a "big favorite" he may have been favoured by some but big favourite is a bit much. Wilder was always more hyped than Stiverne.

Ok, so let's give Wilder all of the credit in the world for beating Stiverne in 2015 & 2017. Now what? Do those wins have anything to do with his TKO loss to Fury this year? Do they take the sting off? Does Wilder sit around saying, "Well at least I beat Stiverne!"?

- -Not by Ring or boxrec. OP bigging up shot Arreola...Priceless! Stiverne was ranked at #2 by The Ring.

Yeah Stiverne was good, he had a draw with a 17-17 fighter and was KO'd by a guy who was 11-15. Let's hope you're not a Pacquiao or Wlad fan.

It was a good win for Wilder. He has other good KO wins. Since the lost to Fury some say he never was good but he was. Maybe he still is. On point as always Bolio. My highest respects.

this might be the most hilarious ****tttt on boxingscene yet. How is this thread worthy? Stiverne isn't even relevant right now lolol this is so funny and weird Don't watch boxing. You're not equipped for it.

Answers on there are so sad lol

Terrell Davis is a HOF running backRight. I meant Terrell Owens.

C level guy at best Would most likely beat everyone Fury fought :lol1:

Wilder isn't terrible but he's not a great boxer. I think that the opponents he fought weren't good enough to expose his deficiencies... until Fury won 15 of 17 rounds combined during their two fights. He reminds me of Terrell Davis; great athlete, but not a great receiver. Terrell Davis is a HOF running back

Wilder isn't terrible but he's not a great boxer. I think that the opponents he fought weren't good enough to expose his deficiencies... until Fury won 15 of 17 rounds combined during their two fights. He reminds me of Terrell Davis; great athlete, but not a great receiver.

It was a good win for Wilder. He has other good KO wins. Since the lost to Fury some say he never was good but he was. Maybe he still is.

this is so funny and weird - -The OP has a fetish for jiggling male tltties. Go figure...

Yeah Stiverne was good, he had a draw with a 17-17 fighter and was KO'd by a guy who was 11-15. He also beat Arreola twice. ATG fighter until he meet Wilder and career over, what more can I say. He should have ducked Wilder and defended against Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka and Washington. 4 of the easiest defense in history. If only Stiverne was with Al instead of Don.