Stevenson is borrrring.. dont havw superstar potential

he just needs the right opponents. small guys are always good. thats been tanks diet for the last 4 years or so in order to score explosive ko's. bums are always good to knock over and trick the casual idiot.

I'll give him a chance for when he starts fighting the other top fighters. He's beating guys levels below him, when he fights better guys he may be forced into doing more. I'm done watching him fight these bums though. Has talent, but his record is almost as padded as Inoue's and Zelenoff's. Inoue is at least knocking his guys out

Stevenson isn't really that defensive, he just lacks punching power. Had he been a bigger puncher he'd have dropped and stopped Clary inside four rounds. He was landing clean power shots the entire fight and still couldn't hurt Clary. He'll never be 'box office" and he'll need a dance partner to shine but he's a damn good fighter and that's what counts. Yeah I agree! Will still have a great career and will still make a lot of money during his career but Tank, Teofimo those more exciting guys will always get more attention than him despite not being as talented or as skilled

I'll give him a chance for when he starts fighting the other top fighters. He's beating guys levels below him, when he fights better guys he may be forced into doing more. I'm done watching him fight these bums though. Has talent, but his record is almost as padded as Inoue's and Zelenoff's.

I be disgusted when I see u fight.. The feeling is mutual 🤣🤣 https://t.co/Uv7nshiXWU— Shakur Stevenson (@ShakurStevenson) December 13, 2020

Man he fought half of his fights in Oakland, 75% of them in Cali, and I think every one but one in the US. Hey I'm sure he has had some true fans out there who really followed him. I've just seen too many 'Ward would have schooled this guy, like Mayweather would have' comments from Ward fans. He and Floyd fought nothing alike. If they compared him to Bhop or something, OK, I get it. But yeah I feel like a lot of the Ward support out there is superficial and tribal. That is true for a lot of fighters though. Still a lot of casual-ness even on a hardcore forum like this. -------- To the central point, I haven't seen enough of Shakur to comment. He does seem to be more like a Mayweather boxer type. Ward was a roughhouse, smart, tough fighter. We didn't know how much dog, and chin, Floyd had until he got into tougher fights. I guess as he gets into more fights, we will see what Shakur has. I know some were comparing Haney to Floyd, and I ain't seeing that one yet. Good break downs. I did follow Ward's ( professional ) career and Stevensons. And yes. IMO they both have / had boring styles.

That's what I'm saying. Mayweather wasn't fighting like Haney and Stevenson this early in his career. He was knocking mfers out. He became safer as he moved up in weight. If these guys are fighting like this now, imagine them at 140 or 147 eight years from now. lol. They are not gonna be facing anyone good at 147lbs.

Young Mayweather was exciting! Stevenson is very skilled and talented but not as exciting, not must watch TV. Him as well as Haney wants to skip straight to being "Money" Mayweather and want to be Defensive and not really put punches together. While I appreciate Hit and Not Get Hit style, I'm a Hardcore Boxing Fans. For the Casuals, that is not going to make them a fan, that is NOT going to make them pay to see you and that is NOT going to Deliver Ratings or get you PPV Buys! At this age and at this stage of their careers you have to put on a show to BECOME a Superstar! Younger Mayweather before the Brittle Hands was very exciting to watch he wasn't just Defensive First. Pernell Whitaker as well! https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TalkativeFixedDodo-size_restricted.gif https://i.imgur.com/ccPxokF.gif?noredirect That's what I'm saying. Mayweather wasn't fighting like Haney and Stevenson this early in his career. He was knocking mfers out. He became safer as he moved up in weight. If these guys are fighting like this now, imagine them at 140 or 147 eight years from now. lol.

Mayweather didn't have power at 147 or 154 but went up there and beat many men with more power than him. Boxing is not just power. Mayweather had power at 130, 135 and 140. 147 he had enough pop to get respect from those guys. DLH was a bit older at 154, Cotto had already been beat to death by Margarito and Pac and Mayweather even hurt him. Anyone with a full functioning brain knew he was gonna beat Canelo. Canelo was easy to outbox. Lara did it after Maweather and Trout was doing it before the open scoring was announced. So Mayweather had respectable power. You weren't gonna just just take 5-6 of his punches to land one and he had great defense.

Funny thing about that is people said the same thing about Andre Ward. You don't have to knock everybody out to win fights. Yup.........

boring as ****. Both he and Haney. He didn't have power at fw, doesn't have it at jr lw and for some reason he thinks he can go up to LW and beat the top guys? hahhaa Mayweather didn't have power at 147 or 154 but went up there and beat many men with more power than him. Boxing is not just power.

Young Mayweather was exciting! Stevenson is very skilled and talented but not as exciting, not must watch TV. Him as well as Haney wants to skip straight to being "Money" Mayweather and want to be Defensive and not really put punches together. While I appreciate Hit and Not Get Hit style, I'm a Hardcore Boxing Fans. For the Casuals, that is not going to make them a fan, that is NOT going to make them pay to see you and that is NOT going to Deliver Ratings or get you PPV Buys! At this age and at this stage of their careers you have to put on a show to BECOME a Superstar! Younger Mayweather before the Brittle Hands was very exciting to watch he wasn't just Defensive First. Pernell Whitaker as well! https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TalkativeFixedDodo-size_restricted.gif https://i.imgur.com/ccPxokF.gif?noredirect

no ward was a master boxer! isnt it strange how he fights straight up against brand and paul smith(cept when he got rocked) but when the competition gets tough...here comes wrestler! remember edwin rodriguez was giving him hell and the ref threatened to take away rodriguez's purse if he didnt stop cheating...lmao! after that he immediately stopped trying. the rules never applied to ward only to his opponents and he knew that was free reign to cheat since his boxing wasnt that great. he new home court was decisive and thats why he refused to join the super six without it and after he gained more power he never relinquished it even for huge fights I don't understand how you are fairly logical on some things. And then way off on others.

Boxing is evolving the technical skill is a lot higher today, it used to be you only got to be able to fight, now the top guys are mostly pure boxers. I disagree with this wholeheartedly, that "pure boxing" style wouldn't necessarily work against other great fighters unless you are really great at it. We don't know how great any of these young pure boxers are because they still haven't fought anybody. Being a pure boxer doesn't equate skill all the time, some offensive fighters are more skilled than defensive fighters. It's about how effective you can be at the highest level.

It's not that he's boring, it's the fact that he still hasn't faced anyone that would make him show more of his arsenal. He doesn't look like he has power, same for Haney, but I'm pretty sure if they're ever involved in tough fights that they have a lot of dog in them and can deliver good fights. They need to up their level of competition though.

Yeah, and you can't really rate a guy who always fights at home. If GGG or Canelo was fighting all of their fights in Guadalajara or Karaganda you would guys would be slamming them. Especially if they had a lot of unimpressive decisions. Come on man. I can't comment on Ward in the Olympics, I've never seen the footage. I have no real reason to doubt his medal being legit, but it is the Olympics, who knows. Against lesser comp, Ward showed good boxing skills. Most guys in the ams that he was facing were probably not on his level, so he won those clean I'm sure. Maybe his run in the Olympics had guys who he could outclass. But in the pros, when the comp was B or even C level and above, he just turned the fights into actual fights. They got dirty and there wasn't much boxing class shown in those. I would know - I actually watched all of his relevant fights a few times in preparation for the Kov fight. I wanted to see who should have been favored going into that fight. no ward was a master boxer! isnt it strange how he fights straight up against brand and paul smith(cept when he got rocked) but when the competition gets tough...here comes wrestler! remember edwin rodriguez was giving him hell and the ref threatened to take away rodriguez's purse if he didnt stop cheating...lmao! after that he immediately stopped trying. the rules never applied to ward only to his opponents and he knew that was free reign to cheat since his boxing wasnt that great. he new home court was decisive and thats why he refused to join the super six without it and after he gained more power he never relinquished it even for huge fights

He won his Olympic gold medal with 0% of those fights in Oakland. A man who excels knows how to win anywhere. the olympics that year were held in oakland!!!

Seriously what happened to Top Rank. Years ago they had all the Mexican warriors and now they have to settle for these boring ass fighters. Boxing is evolving the technical skill is a lot higher today, it used to be you only got to be able to fight, now the top guys are mostly pure boxers.

They brought ward along slow and when he stepped it up, he was dominating. He at least had a bit of pop on his punches. Stevenson probably doesn't hit as hard as Amanda Nunes. Exactly true, Ward should never be compared to women bouncer off-er Chickenson. At least Adonis (who shared his namesake)grew up & stopped hitting(can't even call Stevensons catfight woman beating) young girls before becoming a pro fighter. The thing is I felt ashamed for all of boxing when I watched Chickenson not only hitting women but even worse his punches didn't even phase them in any way or form(as i always say if he didn't want to hurt em like some ppl say then why would he have even punched them) Shame because I would've given him benefit of the doubt about his power had I not seen him not even stutter a girl with his hook.

You said Ward fought half his fights in Oakland which is a blatant lie. You said he never traveled. You obviously can't make your point without telling lies. I'm not wasting any more time with you tonight. He fought 23 out of 32 fights in Cali. Starting with his first real fight, Miranda, he fought 8 out of 14 in Oakland. Those are the facts man. What do you want