Few guys like Manny can have 70 blood and guts fights. Get brutally KOed in 3 of them. Still champion at the highest level.
Brook only half the fights and got stopped in 2. Now is a glass jawed joke. KOed by a jab.
Pac vs Margarito wasn't the same as Brook vs GGG, but Pac is smaller than Brook, and Margarito is bigger than GGG. GGG ruined Brook's eye, while Pac ruined Margarito's eye.
By saying genetics, do u mean “steroids”?
Probably
Some say steroids weakens your skull specifically your eye socket bones. So it could be the case for Brook
Pacquiao has been KO'ed before, but he never suffered any serious facial injury like brook did. Brook underwent 2 major surgeries from back to back losses where his eye socket was fractured twice. That takes a lot out of a person and they may never be the same.
he got stabbed in the leg too.
he was an arrogant c0cky fker though, esp when he was mocking amir khan for his losses.
it's been good to see the guy get beat up like that, esp because the edl muppets online were up his a55 acting like they were his legit fans. they vanished but resurfaced as new magical fans of tyson fury, even though he is nothing like them.
And that one too. But Horn fought dirty from rd1 the ref should have warned Horn multiple times and started deducting point that early. It should have been ruled a DQ by 5th or 6th rd, and it wouldn’t have gotten to the 9th rd where Horn got punished without the refs help
we can't do anything buddy.. it's how boxing ruled by corrupt people.
the ninth round should be the stoppage round. horn is fighting for his life and can't even use his hugs and dirty tactics.. but the referee is fkn paid.
And that one too. But Horn fought dirty from rd1 the ref should have warned Horn multiple times and started deducting point that early. It should have been ruled a DQ by 5th or 6th rd, and it wouldn’t have gotten to the 9th rd where Horn got punished without the refs help
You have a point here buddy. I can even imagine Brandon Rios doing the same as Horn did to Pac had he tried to use his physical size and fight dirty. Clottey would have done that too alot better than Horn did if they were allowed by the ref like that one in Australia.
That Horn fight should have been ruled as a DQ or a NC. It looked like a non-boxing match
the ninth round should be the stoppage round. horn is fighting for his life and can't even use his hugs and dirty tactics.. but the referee is fkn paid.
Let’s be honest Pac is likely juiced up the grills.
lets be honest...so was brook and every other fighter ever lol
so now that were back to square one , whats the difference
if you've watched how pacman fights then you'll see he has lesser hugs and almost to none use of elbow or what ever illegal strike. margarito, dela hoya, algeiri, vargas were bigger than him but he still manage to defeat and outclassed them. but if the size is mixed with dirty tactics it would be really hard for everyone. i see your point.
You have a point here buddy. I can even imagine Brandon Rios doing the same as Horn did to Pac had he tried to use his physical size and fight dirty. Clottey would have done that too alot better than Horn did if they were allowed by the ref like that one in Australia.
That Horn fight should have been ruled as a DQ or a NC. It looked like a non-boxing match
this is correct.
Pac's skills is on another level compared to Mayweather, Ward and Hopkins imo.
They skate by cheating tactics and home court advantage.
Pac boxes clean and is greater than all of them.
actually i'm more impressed with his willingness to bring up a good fight while keeping it clean and entertaining.
How many of those guys you just named did Pac fight at a catch-weight? As Lavar Ball would say: He (Pac) too little.
there's a size difference like you've said. correct? so one needs to cut and gain weight just to meet. of course bigger men have always the upperhand plus the dirty tactics. pac might be small be still he don't play dirty.
if you've watched how pacman fights then you'll see he has lesser hugs and almost to none use of elbow or what ever illegal strike. margarito, dela hoya, algeiri, vargas were bigger than him but he still manage to defeat and outclassed them. but if the size is mixed with dirty tactics it would be really hard for everyone. i see your point.
this is correct.
Pac's skills is on another level compared to Mayweather, Ward and Hopkins imo.
They skate by cheating tactics and home court advantage.
Pac boxes clean and is greater than all of them.
if you've watched how pacman fights then you'll see he has lesser hugs and almost to none use of elbow or what ever illegal strike. margarito, dela hoya, algeiri, vargas were bigger than him but he still manage to defeat and outclassed them. but if the size is mixed with dirty tactics it would be really hard for everyone. i see your point.
How many of those guys you just named did Pac fight at a catch-weight? As Lavar Ball would say: He (Pac) too little.
A jab is a straight punch, it activates your medial deltoid to directly pull up your arm. If the punch is moving across your chest it’s a cross, you are activating more of the pecs and likely getting more torque. If you got a nook in your elbow it’s a hook, not a jab. How much you turn your body doesn’t mean much, arm-punches exist and even the jab you turn into. Regardless you can see how little of Crawfords right pec is visible before the punch compared to after the punch.
Call it a variation of a jab, a hook, or a cross. But It’s not a jab, it’s a punch that would fall short at long range because it’s aiming to the floor or to the side, a punch that has existed for ages. Pacquiao uses it a good amount too. Golovkin I think so also. I don’t think anyone throws it thinking they are throwing a jab, More like a very wide hook. Crawford also called it “more of a hook”.
A hybrid-jab is a fair assessment though.
He didn’t fully extend his arm cause Brook’s face got in the way. :lol1:
It was far more of a straight shot than a hook. With a hook you rotate your body, transferring weight from left to right or vice versa dependant on stance. Crawford didn’t do any of that, it was a reactive shot. Looking at it geometrically, at the range he was at you wouldn’t usually counter with a hook either.
I’m not saying it was a textbook jab by any stretch but it certainly weren’t no hook. It reminded me a bit of that 1-2-1 Kovalev would throw, that final left he’d throw would be like a jab but he’d generate far more force as he’d throw it from an unorthodox position with more leverage.
I scored that fight for Pac as well, but there's no denying Horn's size was giving him trouble. My point was Pac doesn't have the tools or the power to keep those larger fighters off him. Crawford would **** Pac up if they fought now.
if you've watched how pacman fights then you'll see he has lesser hugs and almost to none use of elbow or what ever illegal strike. margarito, dela hoya, algeiri, vargas were bigger than him but he still manage to defeat and outclassed them. but if the size is mixed with dirty tactics it would be really hard for everyone. i see your point.
jeff horn? he is a wrestler. what can you expect from such a dirty fighter. he even use hug, elbow and head. too bad pac is not a dirty fighter. he don't have to fight the horn style. plus it was held in australia. a bias and paid jugdes and referee.
I scored that fight for Pac as well, but there's no denying Horn's size was giving him trouble. My point was Pac doesn't have the tools or the power to keep those larger fighters off him. Crawford would **** Pac up if they fought now.
If a sportman over the age of 35 starts getting physically better and stronger as they get even older, they are on the juice.
Or they just know how to workout their as.s. Off unlike most fighters you are familiar with that gets lazy as they get their age past 30
And who’s getting physically stronger? Someone that gasses out past 8 who usually had enough tank for 20 rds?
If a sportman over the age of 35 starts getting physically better and stronger as they get even older, they are on the juice.
don't envy his maintained body at 35+. you're not alike.. he trained his body hard in the gym while you're just sitting bum there and browsing the internet your whole life.. see the difference? do something useful to your body. just my 2 cents.
If a sportman over the age of 35 starts getting physically better and stronger as they get even older, they are on the juice.
You think Pacquiao has gotten physically better since 35?