Crawford is currently the best welterweight and one of the best fighters P4P. He’s a switch-hitter, can box. He’s not really good on the inside and his defense is a bit leaky, but overall, he’s a very solid all-around boxer with a chip on his shoulder.
He never fought anybody with a longer reach... and every time he fought someone close in reach he took the biggest shots in those fights.
Judah, Mosley, etc....
Oscar, Ndou, Corrales were all taller and had similar reach too. Styles make fights. Floyd struggled with Judah’s explosive speed early on and Mosley’s herky-jerky explosiveness in the first two rounds, he used proper timing to offset both of their momentum and outclassed them for the rest of the rounds. Crawford doesn’t possess the speed of Judah or the herky-jerky movement of Mosley even though Mosley was well past his prime at the time. Floyd doesn’t struggle against textbook boxers. Crawford’s pace, punching selection, defensive fundamental flaws would all favors Floyd.
Maybe I should say offensively, Crawford has more tools. He has a better arsenal of punches, he has more power in either hand with better ability to deliver it from either stance.
Floyd, especially later in his career, was really a master of a few things in different variations. Much of what he did was predicated on dictating the tempo of the fight, which allowed him the time to set up. The instances where Floyd was pressed into a dog fight, he looked much more limited. So much of what he did was based on hitting his opponent at a time where it’s hard for them to counter. He baits guys and then hits them when they move onto the front foot.
He never fought anybody with a longer reach... and every time he fought someone close in reach he took the biggest shots in those fights.
Judah, Mosley, etc....
Crawford is likely to go down the path I predicted for Golovkin. The elite fight’s will only happen once he’s passed prime, so people will underrate him. (Even though he has fought elite’s, not the one’s people recognize, for some reason).
Crawford would do well to create a falsity like Mayweather, fight only hasbeens, and for one reason or another, for some reason, keep the prime elite’s from ever happening. Mayweather built his record like that. Struggling with prime Castillo, Corley, Judah etc, whooping the old guy’s jumping up 3 weightclasses, coming out of retirement 3 year’s, recently ko’d, drain the big guy who’s not passed it etc, but go back to again struggling with a prime fighter even when it’s of Maidana’s lvl, or a guy like Cotto when he doesn’t stack everything in his favor.
What Crawford needs is that fake narrative. Wait for Spence to get Ko’d. Fight Charlo at 152. Bring Lopez straight from 135 to 147. Etc etc. Become, TBE.
You tried. The truth of the matter is that regardless of how Floyd’s career ended, he’ll always be viewed as a greater boxer than Crawford in terms of resume and in-ring abilities.
All those guys that you mentioned that he struggled against would be top quality wins on Crawford’s resume, and yet none of those are in Floyd’s top 10 best wins.
As i said, Crawford is good in his own right. He might arguably be the best WW in the division at the moment, but please don’t try to make it seem like he’s Mayweather’s equal in terms of all-around talent and skills.
There are good/great boxers(Canelo, Loma, Crawford, etc) and then there are generational once in a lifetime extraordinary boxers(Mayweather, Pacquiao, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray R&L, etc).
Crawford passes the eyeball test but has not faced on elite fighter or former elite fighter.
His best win is Horn and that is not saying much.
Chasing Pac for a payday and avoiding everyone else. IMO he is unproven at the top level at WW.
No, he is above average but I dont think he is elite. He on a perfect diet for his skillset once they feed em something he dont like he will look average.
Crawford is likely to go down the path I predicted for Golovkin. The elite fight’s will only happen once he’s passed prime, so people will underrate him. (Even though he has fought elite’s, not the one’s people recognize, for some reason).
Crawford would do well to create a falsity like Mayweather, fight only hasbeens, and for one reason or another, for some reason, keep the prime elite’s from ever happening. Mayweather built his record like that. Struggling with prime Castillo, Corley, Judah etc, whooping the old guy’s jumping up 3 weightclasses, coming out of retirement 3 year’s, recently ko’d, drain the big guy who’s not passed it etc, but go back to again struggling with a prime fighter even when it’s of Maidana’s lvl, or a guy like Cotto when he doesn’t stack everything in his favor.
What Crawford needs is that fake narrative. Wait for Spence to get Ko’d. Fight Charlo at 152. Bring Lopez straight from 135 to 147. Etc etc. Become, TBE.
Floyd was beaten by the likes of castillo and maidana in his prime but was given a gift wins and he was schooled by a past prime dela Hoya while Crawford hasn't yet given a gift win in his career.
Crawford wouldn’t get in the ring with any version Floyd
Crawford hasn’t faced one very good opponent yet let alone a great opponent
Floyd beat great fighters sometimes handing out boxing lessons
Crawford would pull a Timmeh Bradley. Keeping Floyd’s name out their mouths
LOL! Bud is non existent to anyone out side of Top Rank. I've seen Inside PBC Boxing did a welter weight special with no mention of Bud and only mentioned Pac's once. Give me a break. The Chupacabra, Loch Ness Monster and the Cucuy are more real according to PBC's.
Gee willikers batman why did the show get canned?
What..? Crawford isnt even close to being the best welterweight of HIS time lol.. dude hasnt even beaten one of the best welterweights of his time.. to compare him skill wise to any top welterweight in history is bananas 😂
So you think a 43 year-old Floyd losing to Crawford is some type of accomplishment and something to be proud of?
Crawford has all those abilities, but he’s still a tier below Floyd in all of them. The one other thing that stands out clear as day to me is their punching accuracy, Crawford is nowhere near the precise sharpshooter that Floyd was. The ability to create openings and landing on the fly with ease is something that Crawford doesn’t have in his arsenal.
Every other day Froid fans make up stupid thread's about your boy.
Not my fault if you don't like what you hear. Froid is retired Bud Crawford is not.
Bud Crawford never rushes when dissecting an opponent. He is a master technician in the ring. He can punch for power in both hands and often switches back and forth between orthodox and southpaw stances.
His offense is enhanced by his ability to move his head and upper body to elude punches while moving forward at this opponent. This causes him gain great punching angles. At the same time while decreasing his opponents’ counter punching opportunities. Bud will often lead with a straight left hand from the southpaw stance. This often leaves opponents confused. All in all, the average fan has a tendency to underrate the offense of Crawford. However, his opponents will attest to the high-powered arsenal Terence Crawford possesses.
Ability To Counter
Despite a natural tendency to be aggressive, Crawford has the ability of a natural counter puncher. His elusiveness allows him to make opponents miss. He is then able to make them regret every errant punch they throw.
Crawford’s weapon of choice when counter punching is the uppercut. He is often seen ducking under a punch thrown at him only to quickly return fire with an uppercut.
His ability to jump into orthodox to southpaw and visa versa is unreal.
Today Froid loses to Bud-Big Time.
So you think a 43 year-old Floyd losing to Crawford is some type of accomplishment and something to be proud of?
Crawford has all those abilities, but he’s still a tier below Floyd in all of them. The one other thing that stands out clear as day to me is their punching accuracy, Crawford is nowhere near the precise sharpshooter that Floyd was. The ability to create openings and landing on the fly with ease is something that Crawford doesn’t have in his arsenal.
Hell no. Crawford was hit too much by somebody like Kavaliauskas.
Welterweight Floyd would beat him easily.
No chance Crawford would go undefeated through Floyd`s record at 147.
Bud Crawford never rushes when dissecting an opponent. He is a master technician in the ring. He can punch for power in both hands and often switches back and forth between orthodox and southpaw stances.
His offense is enhanced by his ability to move his head and upper body to elude punches while moving forward at this opponent. This causes him gain great punching angles. At the same time while decreasing his opponents’ counter punching opportunities. Bud will often lead with a straight left hand from the southpaw stance. This often leaves opponents confused. All in all, the average fan has a tendency to underrate the offense of Crawford. However, his opponents will attest to the high-powered arsenal Terence Crawford possesses.
Ability To Counter
Despite a natural tendency to be aggressive, Crawford has the ability of a natural counter puncher. His elusiveness allows him to make opponents miss. He is then able to make them regret every errant punch they throw.
Crawford’s weapon of choice when counter punching is the uppercut. He is often seen ducking under a punch thrown at him only to quickly return fire with an uppercut.
His ability to jump into orthodox to southpaw and visa versa is unreal.
Today Froid loses to Bud-Big Time.
Floyd never fought a prime opponent with Bud’s skills. Floyd is a better defensive fighter, but when we talk whole package, neither man has fought an elite level fighter at their best. I still don’t think Floyd would ever get in the ring with a prime Crawford. He certainly wouldn’t get in the ring with prime Mosley or Pac.
Bud is a better boxer than Corrales and Castillo. Corrales was weight drained and coming off bronchitis and Castillo was robbed, and still Bud would do better than either of them from 135-147, even 154.
Bud only seems effective because he’s fighting over opponents. It’s easy to look greatly skilled in that sense.
Look, if Floyd was strategic in getting guys considered has beens or past prime, Bud is fighting guys that never were.
You’re assuming all this bud stuff without Bud actually having fought that level. That’s where the argument is flawed. One man walked it, the other hasn’t in his own era.
What was Pac’s prime? Pre drug test request or post?
Look, a young Canelo, an older Pac (though Floyd is older so that doesn't even work), an older Oscar, older Shane, older Cotto, zab “dont ever play with matches” judah, weight drained Corrales, “overrated”(insert your own negative) Ricky Hatton, “robbed” Castillo, overmatched Robert Guerrero, bloated JMM, etc etc. Bud doesnt have a SINGLE better win than ANY of those. He’s got zero signature wins. Gamboa maybe
And the way Bud has looked at 47... he 100% doesnt get through the 47+ guys undefeated. If you go life and death with a never was cripple in Benavidez, even Guerrero would have put it on him.
Floyd could beat Bud right *now* and it stilll wouldnt be in the top 5 best fighters he ever beat.
Lets get real here. This is as a Bud fan and a borderline Floyd hater. Bud doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt because he looks like a killer agains Jeff Horn.
The cold hard truth is Bud would do the same thing against Floyd that hes doing against the top 5 of the division today - absolutely nothing. Wouldnt get the fight made because of “Top Rank”.
Can’t call a dude a duck because you like to add negatives to all his wins but the other guy doesnt even have notable wins to even criticize.
This is like a bum ass dude with no job waiting at a bus stop hating on a dude for “just” having a 3 series BMW that he bought himself
Glad you brought up his resume, because there is no one on there who stacks up against a prime Crawford. Not one elite at their best.
I think there is a number of guys on Floyds resume that would give TC hell, Terrence hasnt shown where he is at to now because he hasnst fought anyone, I understand that you just want to hate on Floyd but be somewhat real, Cotto Mosley Manny Oscar Hatton JMM would go through TC resumes like a dose of salts.
And I fully see that TC is an elite fighter but he hasnt fought anyone worth a dam thus far.
Floyd would have beat the dog s hit out of him at 35 and the legend of Crawford would have never even existed.
I’m HUGE on Crawford but the man isn’t the best WW nor has he even proved he’s number 2 for that matter if we’re honest.
It’s honestly kind of bizarre that he’s ranked even in the top 5 still.
Young Teofimo Lopez with a Loma win technically has a better resume with ONE win and is undisputed.
Love Bud but gotta call it for what it is. In a hot division, he has avoided the fire for years now. Everyone in that division has fought each other. Everyone
Floyd never fought a prime opponent with Bud’s skills. Floyd is a better defensive fighter, but when we talk whole package, neither man has fought an elite level fighter at their best. I still don’t think Floyd would ever get in the ring with a prime Crawford. He certainly wouldn’t get in the ring with prime Mosley or Pac.
Bud is a better boxer than Corrales and Castillo. Corrales was weight drained and coming off bronchitis and Castillo was robbed, and still Bud would do better than either of them from 135-147, even 154.
Care to elaborate..
Maybe I should say offensively, Crawford has more tools. He has a better arsenal of punches, he has more power in either hand with better ability to deliver it from either stance.
Floyd, especially later in his career, was really a master of a few things in different variations. Much of what he did was predicated on dictating the tempo of the fight, which allowed him the time to set up. The instances where Floyd was pressed into a dog fight, he looked much more limited. So much of what he did was based on hitting his opponent at a time where it’s hard for them to counter. He baits guys and then hits them when they move onto the front foot.
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