The reason they have so many belts and divisions is money and marketability. The reason there are 500 different little man divisions that are half a pound apart is that it is much easier to promote the little men as 'p4p #1' and promote their fights as being important which gets the viewers to pay in. Same for the belts, a way to keep every promoter and network happy with their own 'champion'.
Compared to the UFC, boxing is one big joke. There can only be one champ per division, end of.
I will also say this; imagine if there was a 180, 185, 190, 195, 205, 210, 215, 220 pound class? Guys like Usyk or whoever is the best at that point in time could clean up 5 divisions and become a 'legend' of the sport. The weight classes as they stand make no sense. Why is there a 8lb difference between MW/SMH but only a 7lb difference from SMW to LHW? Then after that you get a 25lb dif. to CW.
It's not logical or scientific at all, they just make up weight classes as they go. And sorry but if you are the champ of the 108lb, 109lb, 110lb, and 111lb classes and are undisputed, lineal KING of those four divisions, you ain't sh_t in my book, you're still just a little guy who decided to not eat one more chicken nugget to make a new weight class. "Hmm, should I have one more sip of tea to make the 108.2lb division and become p4p#1 or should I stay at 108lb? Hmm tough choice!"
Funny thing is I made a point quite similar to yours on a reddit boxing thread and got called a hater and a casual fan even though it is the truth. Why the **** is there a Jr. Bantamweight division and a Bantamweight division? One is 115lbs the other is 118lbs, a 3lb difference that **** is a joke.
The same people who will argue that there needs to be a Jr. Bantamweight division would argue there shouldn't be a super heavyweight division, even though Tyson Fury outweighed Deontay Wilder by like 50+lbs on fight night for fight number too. If Deontay Wilder can deal with a 50+lb weight difference, a Jr. Bantamweight can deal with a 3lb weight difference.
The worst part about it is, so many sheep have bought into this idea of just jumping weight divisions collecting belts giving these fighters way more credit than they really deserve. Funny thing is I like Naoya Inoue, but they made this guy a P4P #2 ranked fighter for never fighting King Sor, Chocolatito, or Estrada... hell he blantantly skipped the weight class they were in, and having only one decently competitive fight against an over the hill Nonito Donaire, a fight which was WAAAAY harder than it should have been given the fact Donaire is ancient and has been beaten much cleaner than Inoue did by fighters who aren't looked at as highly as Inoue is and Donaire nearly gave him a career ending injury as well but he is P4P #2?! Why because he(and others not just Inoue) just jumps up weight classes fighting the weakest champ there(usually a WBO beltholder) and never even trying to unify before moving on. Then they will sit there and knock fighters who haven't fought in a billion weight classes because they are bigger, and you know contrary to popular belief it is HARDER in boxing the BIGGER YOU ARE, and jumping up weight actually means something, even though in their one weight class unified fairly quickly and have probably fought much tougher competition.
Think about this for a second, Top Rank signed Inoue who was fighting at 118, had Navarrette at 122, Stevenson at 126. Navarette and Stevenson moved up conveniently dropping their WBO belts to automatically get a shot at the belt in the next weight class, Navarrette's belt is vacant, Stevenson will fight Herring(easy win for Stevenson let's be honest, Herring is a B level fighter). Stevenson never fought Gary Russell Jr(never even mentioned his name) or Josh Warrington before he moved up. Navarette has his belt and instead of fighting GRJ or Warrington they are talking about him fighting Oscar Valdez. Meanwhile Inoue will fight Maloney soon and mark my words he will then move up to 122 before he ever gets in the ring with Casimero like he was supposed to. Yet the sheep on here will hype these dudes up as multiple division champions and they literally have one decent fight between the 3 of them. GTFOH I see through that bull****. LMAO
Boxing is a joke with that ****, and the fans don't help buying into that trash ass ****. Steve Kim and Dan Rafael and Teddy Atlas don't help either hyping these little man divisions up like they are just the cream of the crop and hyping up these overhyped fighters who haven't really done ****.
I've been saying this, but it aint ever going to happen.
Fighters will continue to dope because they can. The fans will forget about it with the next match.
Judges will continue to rob fighters because they can. Fans will forget that soon as well.
Stop watching, stop paying.
The WBSS was the answer to a problem the fans didn't seem to know existed.
Agree 1000%
It is up to the Fighters to take a stand and I'm sure most fighters would rather NOT Pay Sanctioning Fees! Never understood the Concept of Paying a Belt Organization a Fee to hold their Belt
Like the belt that Tank Davis has right now. Like the French fried belt that the WBC just created, like the dumb super Champion belt that the WBA created, soon enough both the IBF and WBO would create another belt to go to the level of the Super/French fry belt, and then everyone is now a champion after a few fights.
The reason they have so many belts and divisions is money and marketability. The reason there are 500 different little man divisions that are half a pound apart is that it is much easier to promote the little men as 'p4p #1' and promote their fights as being important which gets the viewers to pay in. Same for the belts, a way to keep every promoter and network happy with their own 'champion'.
Compared to the UFC, boxing is one big joke. There can only be one champ per division, end of.
I agree. I obviously like boxing more than mma but in mma , you don’t have 4-7 champions per weight class in 17 weight classes with promoters talking about an A-side. Greed will destroy boxing completely within the next 30 years
The reason they have so many belts and divisions is money and marketability. The reason there are 500 different little man divisions that are half a pound apart is that it is much easier to promote the little men as 'p4p #1' and promote their fights as being important which gets the viewers to pay in. Same for the belts, a way to keep every promoter and network happy with their own 'champion'.
Compared to the UFC, boxing is one big joke. There can only be one champ per division, end of.
I will also say this; imagine if there was a 180, 185, 190, 195, 205, 210, 215, 220 pound class? Guys like Usyk or whoever is the best at that point in time could clean up 5 divisions and become a 'legend' of the sport. The weight classes as they stand make no sense. Why is there a 8lb difference between MW/SMH but only a 7lb difference from SMW to LHW? Then after that you get a 25lb dif. to CW.
It's not logical or scientific at all, they just make up weight classes as they go. And sorry but if you are the champ of the 108lb, 109lb, 110lb, and 111lb classes and are undisputed, lineal KING of those four divisions, you ain't sh_t in my book, you're still just a little guy who decided to not eat one more chicken nugget to make a new weight class. "Hmm, should I have one more sip of tea to make the 108.2lb division and become p4p#1 or should I stay at 108lb? Hmm tough choice!"
Remember when Floyd said f Mosley’s welterweight belt
Floyd had zero respect for that sanctioning body
That flex worked because Floyd is a somebody
Would a young up and comer pass up on a belt and opportunity to become “champion”?
its exactly what I said.
The fighters have the power to only recognize one belt, The fighters have the power to only want to compete for one belt etc and by doing this it will render all other belts worthless beside the one they chose to universally recognize. But the figthers wont do it cause they are all greedy as well, 4 different fighters can call themselves champion, and demand championship pay and slap the marquee title of CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT on their televised fight which is a marketing gimmick that works.
The fighters are the only ones who can do this, its up to the fighters to stand up for the sport. Otherwise business as usual.
Yea like u guys been saying it's up to the fighters but i don't think the guys wanna give up that extra $ that comes with these extra belts in there fights. I don't get how the fighters like to pay that extra $100k jus for a stupid sanctioning fee holding the organizations belt, im not sure how much extra $ they get having a belt puts in the total purse to split between both fighters. I remember Cotto didn't wanna pay a sanctioning on top of giving GGG step aside $ so he could fight Canelo
So he’s saying only the WBO? Lmfao **** off Floyd.
No he said all in the video.
Yes he said all in the video, It was my mistake I edited the title twice cause of characters limit so I messed up the title and now I cant edit it.
I’m actually in agreement with this. 2 belt per weight class, fewer weight classes will prevent all of this “A side/B side” nonsense, but it will never happen. The worst thing to happen to boxing in the past 20 years was when people let Bob Arum and the WBO dictate that title into becoming a major belt. Now Herbie Hide is Historically a 2x hw champion.
I dont really blame the promoters or sanctioning bodies they jsut doing what they oppurtunist do and thats captalize on any and every situation.
The fighters have the power to only recognize one belt, The fighters have the power to only want to compete for one belt etc and by doing this it will render all other belts worthless beside the one they chose to universally recognize. But the figthers wont do it cause they are all greedy as well, 4 different fighters can call themselves champion, and demand championship pay and slap the marquee title of CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT on their televised fight which is a marketing gimmick that works.
The fighters are the only ones who can do this, its up to the fighters to stand up for the sport. Otherwise business as usual.