I’m not that clued up in the benefits of each steroid why did fury take this? What benefits And how long term? Is this why he doesn’t have a British license? Fear of being banned?
it supposedly turns women into men, shrivels mens balls up and makes their dicks soft(er), as well as increased hair growth, thats why tysons hair fell out over that period, he couldnt even take his peds right
just like with insulin and dopamine, upregulating testosterone, inhibits receptor sensitivity. As a result, it works against you. Which is why people taking steds end up with too much test converted to estrogen.
it is only therapeutic if it's used for people not producing enough testosterone..although it's kind of like insulin again, taking it will give you short term benefits but isnt good long term. the best way to think of it is like eating chocolate bars to make you feel good, which only harms you later. it's good for people who need to perk up for an occasion.
the best way is to improve the health/sensitivity of the receptors by down regulating the hormone eg fasting and waiting for their recovery.
You're spot on about tyson having periods of inactivity. Few people understand this side of him.
Recently, going into the Wilder fight, he's talked about w4nking 7 times a day to increase testosterone. no idea if that even works...however even 1 orgasm reduces androgen receptor performance for upto 3 weeks.
What tyson does is fights a big fight after a long time where he's able to artificially raise his performance levels..but then take easy fights or a long holiday to recover.
His performance vs otto wallin was what happens when the body needs to recover and the 'high' has worn off.
it supposedly turns women into men, shrivels mens balls up and makes their dicks soft(er), as well as increased hair growth, thats why tysons hair fell out over that period, he couldnt even take his peds right
You are thinking compartmentalized/specific on this subject, and not really taking in the full affects on performance/recovery that Nandralone has etc 'Maybe that is because you come from a body building background' just a different angle.
If you are a athlete? And your goal is to build endurance by doing speed endurance, strength endurance and aerobic capacity sessions 'And you can recover faster more efficiently in-between training sessions' Nandralone is building endurance..
As I have just stated to you? When you get stronger, faster or build more endurance 'Those are all adaptations to the acute stressers you have placed upon your body in the form of training' Adaptations ONLY happen during your recover phase, so if you can recover more efficiently with the aid of Nandralone which is increasing Anabolism 'The perfect environment for recovery' YOU are going to improve endurance more easily than somebody who is not taking Nandralone.
EPO is a SPECIFIC blood boasting performance enhancing drug, which increases red blood cells and their capacity to carry oxygen around the body etc EPO increases aerobic capacity, so YES theoretically it will improve a specific type of endurance 'Just by taking it, but not all types of endurance'. Anabolic steroids to a certain degree on their own INCREASE EPO in the body, go and look at the medical uses for steroids one of them is treatment for anemia.
Nandrolone is a multi purpose performance enhancing drug, being able to recovery faster and more efficient is probably at the top of the list of Christmas presents for most professional athletes 'If they can complete more training sessions, and recover faster because of the perfect anabolic environment created by Nandrolone?' They will build endurance more easily that a athlete not taking Nandrolone.
Training is still the most important part, the most game changing variable in a athletes arsenal 'If performance enhancing drugs of all kinds just immediately built endurance/muscle, every cyclist we would see would be at the standard of a Tour De France competitor, local gyms would be full of Lee Haney's & Tom Platz' Performance enhancing drugs are short cuts, which help athletes in some way train harder for longer, and recovery faster etc
I watched a interview with Lee Priest where he was stating that 'None of these body builders train TO his standards, but of course all athletes have different philosophies'. He was alluding to the opinion that people where relying on just taking more and more steroids instead of training.
Note: None of us has really given any false information, just came at the topic from different angles 'I have answered it more holistically' yourself more compartmentalized. No need for apology just a discussion, it is cool.
Well put. I enjoy reading ur posts and respect to ur writing ability.
Have a look at this:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15292741/
I have practical knowledge of almost everything made. So obviously I know the advantages of gear, or I wouldn’t ever bothered with them. This Study backs up the way u describe it. So I’ll totally give u kudos for that. The rats on Nandrolone will have muscles that recover faster than the Placebo rats. So obviously over time their muscles won’t be getting as worn out as the placebo trained rats. Hence they will have “fresher” more repaired muscles each time they run. Which lets them run longer building up their endurance faster from doing more work. But the study also shows that Nandrolone has no direct effect on endurance on its own or due to its chemical makeup. But it’s effect of letting u recover and train more often is dependent on you doing the work only. The training increases ur endurance. This is just everything u said reiterated, I know. But u can’t sit on ur ass and take it and get any results to ur endurance. Maybe that’s what u meant the whole time, but u didn’t explain it the way u meant it. If someone asks about nandrolone, and then someone just replies “it increases endurance” like u said. That’s misleading. Marijuana can help people relax and mask the pain of running, letting u push longer or harder. But that’s just an effect on ur mental state, nothing has actually changed in ur endurance. U always had it in you. This is common where I’m from. But u would never say “marijuana increases endurance” plain and simple, cause it doesn’t. Drugs like EPO exist to increase ur endurance without putting in the extra work. It’s any extra cardio ur doing on nandrolone that’s increasing ur cardio. Maybe ur on nandrolone and doing just the exact same cardio regimen u always did. Same speed, duration, and frequency. There would be no increase in ur endurance. That’s all I wanted to people to know. I told u I wasent trying to jump on you. I apologize because u know how with the right circumstances and effort it can help you workout more often, hence improvements. But with ur simple reply statement it gave the impression that the drug itself has a physiological effect on cardio. People think clen builds muscle on here too. If people really want to know more, between our posts, now they do.
You are thinking compartmentalized/specific on this subject, and not really taking in the full affects on performance/recovery that Nandralone has etc 'Maybe that is because you come from a body building background' just a different angle.
If you are a athlete? And your goal is to build endurance by doing speed endurance, strength endurance and aerobic capacity sessions 'And you can recover faster more efficiently in-between training sessions' Nandralone is building endurance..
As I have just stated to you? When you get stronger, faster or build more endurance 'Those are all adaptations to the acute stressers you have placed upon your body in the form of training' Adaptations ONLY happen during your recover phase, so if you can recover more efficiently with the aid of Nandralone which is increasing Anabolism 'The perfect environment for recovery' YOU are going to improve endurance more easily than somebody who is not taking Nandralone.
EPO is a SPECIFIC blood boasting performance enhancing drug, which increases red blood cells and their capacity to carry oxygen around the body etc EPO increases aerobic capacity, so YES theoretically it will improve a specific type of endurance 'Just by taking it, but not all types of endurance'. Anabolic steroids to a certain degree on their own INCREASE EPO in the body, go and look at the medical uses for steroids one of them is treatment for anemia.
Nandrolone is a multi purpose performance enhancing drug, being able to recovery faster and more efficient is probably at the top of the list of Christmas presents for most professional athletes 'If they can complete more training sessions, and recover faster because of the perfect anabolic environment created by Nandrolone?' They will build endurance more easily that a athlete not taking Nandrolone.
Training is still the most important part, the most game changing variable in a athletes arsenal 'If performance enhancing drugs of all kinds just immediately built endurance/muscle, every cyclist we would see would be at the standard of a Tour De France competitor, local gyms would be full of Lee Haney's & Tom Platz' Performance enhancing drugs are short cuts, which help athletes in some way train harder for longer, and recovery faster etc
I watched a interview with Lee Priest where he was stating that 'None of these body builders train TO his standards, but of course all athletes have different philosophies'. He was alluding to the opinion that people where relying on just taking more and more steroids instead of training.
Note: None of us has really given any false information, just came at the topic from different angles 'I have answered it more holistically' yourself more compartmentalized. No need for apology just a discussion, it is cool.
Endurance, I think with most boxers this is the best thing by they would want. To be able to withstand and go longer in long duels. Fury was no different.
He took the drugs to cheat at Boxing. It's why any of them do it. He served some sort of ban and its done. Fury is just one of many drugs cheats but life goes on and as long he's testing clean now that's all that matters now.
The same main advantages of any other anabolic steroid. Theres some minor differences, you will see bodybuilders saying some are better for leaning out and others for gaining mass ect, but for fury its the ability to train harder, recover faster and increase muscle mass while losing fat when his fat ass comes into camps out of shape.
Im of the belief that 90% of top boxers are on peds and most arent getting caught.
I think the biggest most recent clue is that we have more boxers than ever over 35 that are able to compete and even dominate the younger guys.
If you remember as recently as the 80s and 90s, 35 was considered old as hell for boxers, look at SRL, hagler, ect they are fizzling out by then. Now days you got like 41 year old JMM and Pacquaios like little jacked middle aged bowling balls just rolling through these young guys.
And I think theyve been using peds for a long time, just that somewhere after 2000 they seemed to be another uptick in their performance, theyre getting better peds or better at using them. There was a big uptick in the number of these older fighters at the top in a short period of time.
Exactly. PEDs came help older athletes body hold together. Also when ur on PEDs u know ur going to get increased results so that motivates you to try and get the most out of it. It’s like having a %25 discount coupon to ur favourite store, u will prolly buy more than usual to maximize the amount of money u will save. An older top athlete on PEDs has an improved physicality for sure, but it’s combined with all that experience which is the crux. That’s why a top level skilled experienced guy on PEDS is a tough challenge. Sum guys can take peds or diuretics and have that as a reason to schluff off the training though.
The same main advantages of any other anabolic steroid. Theres some minor differences, you will see bodybuilders saying some are better for leaning out and others for gaining mass ect, but for fury its the ability to train harder, recover faster and increase muscle mass while losing fat when his fat ass comes into camps out of shape.
Im of the belief that 90% of top boxers are on peds and most arent getting caught.
I think the biggest most recent clue is that we have more boxers than ever over 35 that are able to compete and even dominate the younger guys.
If you remember as recently as the 80s and 90s, 35 was considered old as hell for boxers, look at SRL, hagler, ect they are fizzling out by then. Now days you got like 41 year old JMM and Pacquaios like little jacked middle aged bowling balls just rolling through these young guys.
And I think theyve been using peds for a long time, just that somewhere after 2000 they seemed to be another uptick in their performance, theyre getting better peds or better at using them. There was a big uptick in the number of these older fighters at the top in a short period of time.
We got idiots out here literally trying to say steroids don't give you an advantage
Lawd have mercy
You talking about me? Call me an idiot? I don’t know if u are or aren’t. But u can read my reply to Princekool, and the link to the study. I have all the real world knowledge with every gear. Obviously I must know the advantages, or I wouldn’t have built up all the experience. But that’s the point I know my stuff, so I can chime in. The drug Nandrolone itself has no physiological effect on endurance. Just wanted to clarify his misleading statement. U may know steroids are an advantage. Maybe uve taken them and have practical experience. Maybe u haven’t, and in that case ur opinion means very little. Nandrolone is great. I oughta know. I’m not trying to bust anyone’s b*lls, I said that.
Exercise stimulates the body to adapt, and become stronger, faster or gain more endurance etc The body only adapts during its recovery phase, Nandrolone improves recovery.
So if Nandrolone helps recovery, it will improve endurance. You do not build endurance while training, exercise is a stressor to the human body 'A acute stressor which your body then must adapt to by becoming stronger, faster or having more endurance' These adaptations only happen during your recovery phase.
Nandrolone will help a athlete train harder and recover faster/more efficiently 'Nandrolone improves endurance, this is common knowledge'. If a athlete can rack up more quality training sessions, that is endurance.
Have a look at this:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15292741/
I have practical knowledge of almost everything made. So obviously I know the advantages of gear, or I wouldn’t ever bothered with them. This Study backs up the way u describe it. So I’ll totally give u kudos for that. The rats on Nandrolone will have muscles that recover faster than the Placebo rats. So obviously over time their muscles won’t be getting as worn out as the placebo trained rats. Hence they will have “fresher” more repaired muscles each time they run. Which lets them run longer building up their endurance faster from doing more work. But the study also shows that Nandrolone has no direct effect on endurance on its own or due to its chemical makeup. But it’s effect of letting u recover and train more often is dependent on you doing the work only. The training increases ur endurance. This is just everything u said reiterated, I know. But u can’t sit on ur ass and take it and get any results to ur endurance. Maybe that’s what u meant the whole time, but u didn’t explain it the way u meant it. If someone asks about nandrolone, and then someone just replies “it increases endurance” like u said. That’s misleading. Marijuana can help people relax and mask the pain of running, letting u push longer or harder. But that’s just an effect on ur mental state, nothing has actually changed in ur endurance. U always had it in you. This is common where I’m from. But u would never say “marijuana increases endurance” plain and simple, cause it doesn’t. Drugs like EPO exist to increase ur endurance without putting in the extra work. It’s any extra cardio ur doing on nandrolone that’s increasing ur cardio. Maybe ur on nandrolone and doing just the exact same cardio regimen u always did. Same speed, duration, and frequency. There would be no increase in ur endurance. That’s all I wanted to people to know. I told u I wasent trying to jump on you. I apologize because u know how with the right circumstances and effort it can help you workout more often, hence improvements. But with ur simple reply statement it gave the impression that the drug itself has a physiological effect on cardio. People think clen builds muscle on here too. If people really want to know more, between our posts, now they do.
yeah and he will try and see out his career with easy fights against one trick pony wilder and then bow out fighting a fake wrestling match.
While abusing Joshua over social media but refusing to face him in the ring.
He’s a cheat and that’s why he ran away from the klitchcko rematch and faked illness.
He fought an unmotivated Wlad and was juiced to the gills he would have lost the rematch but bottled it
Hammer and klitscho it’s disgusting when you think about it to be honest yeah and he will try and see out his career with easy fights against one trick pony wilder and then bow out fighting a fake wrestling match.
While abusing Joshua over social media but refusing to face him in the ring.
He’s a cheat and that’s why he ran away from the klitchcko rematch and faked illness.
so what your saying is that Tyson fury was taking peds when he beat klitchcko ? I always felt he was on the strong stuff earlier.
Gypsies have the morals of a crack whore when fair play is iinvolved.
Hammer and klitscho it’s disgusting when you think about it to be honest
If Fury doesn't have a British license, that probably also means he's NOT being tested by UKAD?
He isn’t in fact WADA are not testing at the moment so it’s probably rampant and he don’t have a Uk licence so he isn’t being tested at all
It basically allowed him to level up when he was as prospect everyone looked at him as a joke so what your saying is that Tyson fury was taking peds when he beat klitchcko ? I always felt he was on the strong stuff earlier.
Gypsies have the morals of a crack whore when fair play is iinvolved.
I’m not that clued up in the benefits of each steroid why did fury take this? What benefits And how long term? Is this why he doesn’t have a British license? Fear of being banned?
If Fury doesn't have a British license, that probably also means he's NOT being tested by UKAD?
U can look it up, there’s no proven endurance effect from nandrolone. If u increase ur muscle mass without increasing ur cardio u will have less stamina. Strength, size, recovery for sure. The age old story is that it lubricates ur joints and that can help with lifts and masking any joint pain. There’s no real scientific studies to back this up, but I’ll support it as have countless others. But u will still feel any unhealed issues or even new ones once ur off. Nandrolone is just the steroid the ester attached to it is what determines its half life, be it shorter like a phenylpropinate or longer like a decanoate. U can test positive for its metabolites over a year later. That doesn’t mean the drug has been working for a year. Deca has a half life of just under two weeks. It’s not a bunch of water weight and I agree the gains seem to hang on better than with a lot of other drugs. I’m not busting ur balls because it is an effective drug for athletes and one of the longest lasting. But endurance gains and the drug itself being effective a year after ur cycle just isn’t true. Just do the math on it.
Exercise stimulates the body to adapt, and become stronger, faster or gain more endurance etc The body only adapts during its recovery phase, Nandrolone improves recovery.
So if Nandrolone helps recovery, it will improve endurance. You do not build endurance while training, exercise is a stressor to the human body 'A acute stressor which your body then must adapt to by becoming stronger, faster or having more endurance' These adaptations only happen during your recovery phase.
Nandrolone will help a athlete train harder and recover faster/more efficiently 'Nandrolone improves endurance, this is common knowledge'. If a athlete can rack up more quality training sessions, that is endurance.