Jack Reiss on Fury count

It was definitely out of the norm and it's not even close. There are hundreds of knockdowns each year. It is very rare that a fighter is given 20 seconds to recover after a knockdown. This isn't even debatable. This is crazy - -Total elapsed time was approx 20 sec. U noob? Refs today have legal responsibility to ascertain a fighters state before releasing him to fight, gen in the 15-20sec range. Don't like it, but reportedly Fury opened his eyes when he hit the canvas to wink at the ref, so some smart moves on his part that won't be granted this fight.

It was definitely out of the norm and it's not even close. There are hundreds of knockdowns each year. It is very rare that a fighter is given 20 seconds to recover after a knockdown. This isn't even debatable. This is crazy Disagree, you have to factor in the situation. You get all types of knock downs - heavy, flash, body shot, as well as what the point in the fight they happened. If you look at knock downs where the fighter barely beat the count after a heavy fall, I would think quite a few of those would be pushing 20 seconds. BJS vs Coerces was over 20 in fact and that was recent and just from memory, I bet I could find a lot more

It was on the long side, in terms of the check but I've seen others like that and many do fall in the 15-20 second range. All you and many fans care about is the count, especially if you're a fan of the opposite fighter, the referee has to consider the health of the fighter and if he needs a couple of extra seconds to establish that, I think he and the fighter in question should be given the chance, especially in this scenario, 12th round, championship fight, heavy knockdown and he beat the count at 9, not to mention he was ahead and hadn't taken much punishment. Did he beat the count? Yes. Was the check long? Yes. Was it out of the bounds of normal? No It was great refereeing Yep. Wilder fans can't be too aggrieved. Wilder Ortiz 1 should have been stopped in the 7th, so its swings and roundabouts.

I'm going to make this as sweet and simple for you as possible. If you think a fighter getting 20 seconds after a knockdown to recover is normal in boxing, you need to find a new sport. It was on the long side, in terms of the check but I've seen others like that and many do fall in the 15-20 second range. All you and many fans care about is the count, especially if you're a fan of the opposite fighter, the referee has to consider the health of the fighter and if he needs a couple of extra seconds to establish that, I think he and the fighter in question should be given the chance, especially in this scenario, 12th round, championship fight, heavy knockdown and he beat the count at 9, not to mention he was ahead and hadn't taken much punishment. Did he beat the count? Yes. Was the check long? Yes. Was it out of the bounds of normal? No It was great refereeing

Ask him about his worst ever decision instead of this self wanking.

You questioned the count. Okay. So it's not about Reiss at all, you just don't know, like Chollo, how 10 counts work in boxing and you needed a ref to explain the basic rule to you. Cool, just say that next time. 😀 🙌 Wilder KO 5

Dude I've been watching boxing for almost 40 years. If you think 20 seconds after a knockdown is normal, I don't know what to tell you Are you saying 20 secs total or 20 secs after they’ve beaten the count?? There are many situations where the ref has communicated with the fighter before resuming the fight or stopping it. A ref asking a fighter if they want to continue is an extra 4/5 seconds lol. Fury is not the first fighter to benefit off of that situation. I’m not saying it’s always done but it happens often enough. I’ve been watching the sport for half as long as you so you should be able to see that if I can.

He was “out cold” doe.

It was a brilliant decision. At high end world championship level, you have to give the guy every chance. It's different if you're in a corner taking blow after blow, Fury was down, and no longer being hit, it would only have saved him a few seconds waving the fight off. I loved the shock of Wilder's face when he got back up, and that Fury started kicking his ass later in the round proved the decision was right. Also, look at Wilder's reaction when the scorecards are read out as a Draw. You can't hide his relief, such a telling moment on Wilder's true thoughts. Well said. In this case it was the right decision to see if he could continue even if he had a suspicion he was more hurt than he was. And Fury proved he was ok, both times. The first one was a flash knockdown, but the second one was just a great combo by Wilder, taking advantage of Fury's mistake in being too predictable with the same roll. Wilder was mentally devastated once Fury got up his body language was of a guy that had no answers.

Here's the deal. You get 10 seconds to get up from a knockdown before you have to fight. REISS GAVE FURY 20 DAMN SECONDS to recover lol It’s actually a 10 count not 10 seconds.... otherwise they would use a stop watch to prevent error. And it is very normal for referees to ask fighters to demonstrate they are okay before letting them continue. Especially if they barely beat the count. Fury didn’t get special treatment unless you’re a blinded Wilder fan.... not saying you are that but it’s how it looks.

You're also not blind - clearly, because you're posting online. So I'll ask again, it's a simple question. You saw Tyson Fury's eyes acknowledging Reiss, wide open, looking right at him when he was on the mat. So why was your first instinct not to believe Fury was okay? And why did it take Reiss coming out and saying this for you to give him "more" respect? Why did you not respect him the night of the fight when he made the correct call as you watched him do? Why did it "change your view" to hear Reiss tell you what you should have already seen? Like your view should already have been that it was the right call for the reasons above and specified. Why was it not your view? I never questioned Fury & his recovery. I questioned the count issued. Now, you're putting words in my mouth. Move on little boy

I'm sure Wilder would block Reiss from being referee, so eho is the ref in the rematch?

But why? Multiple people including myself told people exactly what he said. Especially about the eye contact which is what I clearly saw on fight night. Even in photos people were sharing you can clearly see Tyson look right at Reiss. That means he's not out, he's staying down for equilibrium so he doesn't Bambi leg like Judah did after Tszyu dropped him. So the question is why you didn't see that the night of the fight? Because I'm not Jack Reiss. I never lost any respect for Reiss. I gained more for him. And why does it bother you that I made a positive post?

It was never a debate for me. But still good to hear his view of things.

He already said this after the fight, he was interviewed and he mentioned how he explain to the two boxers, what the scenario would be in both their dressing rooms. He said if either was taking a beating, then he would have stopped the fight at the last knock down. The fact that Fury went on to stun/tag Wilder after the KD shows the ref was right.

That interview totally changed my view of round 12 & I have much more respect for Reiss. Great interview.

... but I can't forget him in that "Kessler fight", as well... :)

Maybe the ref should have waved fight off in the 9th round also as Tyson went down, or when Cunningham downed Fury? Why not change the rules of boxing so everyone is clear, whoever goes down first loses.? Tyson fury fans might not have thought Fury was getting up but that is another topic he has 10 seconds.

It was all good. Wilder fans and Wilders team just made a load of noise about it cuz Wilder didnt win. Dont forget we also got baby oil and gypsy magic.

Fighters have 10 seconds to get up so its not even a talking point, its a manufactured debate. WHy on earth should reiss have waved it off? Fury was winning and hadn't taken much punches. It was 12th round. Wilder knows he got beat by fury. Wilder just disappointed fury got up and that he couldn't finish off Tyson when Tyson got up.