I normally don't make these kinds of threads but this shlt annoys me because of hypocritical fanbois nationalistic stupidity.
Exhibit A.
Exhibit B:https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.boxingscene.com/bellew-frustrated-explains-his-beef-with-canelo-positive-tests--126281&ved=2ahUKEwiQs4a62bXnAhWqIDQIHeJOCHQQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1OntWs2ZsSrymj9uUdD1jT
(This same phag Tony Bellend has refused to say a single thing about Shytes cheating,& he defended BJS/Fury as "clean honorable british lads" while in the same breathe "Canelo is a filthy mexican sewer rat cheat who should be banned for life")
Ftr I don't think Fury is a proven cheat. I think he doesn't deserve it to hinder his career but his circumstances have nothing in common with Shyte imho til proven guulty, because he could've accidentally ingested it unlike Shyte
Exhibit C. Most brits have been defending BJS/Fury/Shyte as clean while subsequently saying Canelo is a roid cheat(despite him being the only one aside from maybe Fury whom has a plausible excuse & despite clen being the ped equavilant to Vitamin D which is classified as a roid(meaning according to bellends like Tony vitamin d makes you a cheat if you eat it,but Dbol which cannot be ingested accidentally isn't)
Exhibit D.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839547&page=2
My quote:1x roid cheat with most powerful roid known to man Dbol & the fact he was fcked around 1st time is why he SHOULDN'T be excused,you got it backwards.
If someone robs me of 2 yrs I would make sure to not cheat especially since he called many others roid cheats saying AJ"T.U.E.s "then implied he was planning on evening playing field & suddenly 1st fight with more testing he happened to have Dbol in his system right when he was tested(if accidental it would be a mighty coincidence for it to accidentally be ingested within hours of a test after vada had already tested him & he thought he was in the clear.
Dbol leaves ones system within hours so now it becomes somehow either he was accidentally dosing multiple times or the worlds greatest coincidence(if you believe his Shyte story,of course)
Whyte served a 2 year ban because of a nutritional supplement meanwhile Big Baby Miller tests positive for EPO and HGH and gets no ban and a big contract. So think America needs to get a lot more serious about peds in boxing. The UK seems to be a lot more strict.
Then explain how he can have ingested a roid that is impossible to ingest accidentally & has never been found in food esp. in UK? How can Shyte have happened to have it in his system on the exact day ukad tested him despite it leaving system in 24 hrs? Why didn't he do a hair follicle test to show hes innocent & why didn't Ukad request it like Nsac does?
How can Shyte have been banned for a supplement before but be stupid enough to accidentally juice? It's obvious Shytes a blatant cheat,he literally was foreshadowing his cheating when he was accusing AJ of TUE's & implying he should level the playing field
I am not British and certainly not a defender of Whyte but Dianabol contamination has occured in the past. With that being said an athlete is responsible for whatever supplements they are ingesting. Many "smart" fighters run all supplements before the control boards before buying or taking anything. Dillian Whyte was exonerated because of connections not because he is actually innocent. An athlete is responsible for every supplement that they ingest whether they are contaminated or not.
I would say Brits and Mexican Boxing Fans seem more Loyal and less Finkle than US Americans
With Americans, because of the Rich History in boxing the Expectations is much higher and borderline Unrealistic! American fans are not just going to Pile On One Bandwagon like others do so quickly. It takes a LONG TIME to win over the Casual American Sports Fans especially for a Boxer. It didn't happen for Mayweather until much later in his career when he was like 30 years old I think for the Oscar fight
But YES I do think others are Bias compared to Americas who many have no problem going against their own countrymen you can see that on this forum daily as well as guys on youtube who seems to just absolutely HATE their own American Fighters. I don't see that from Brits much if at all honestly.
Big Baby failed his test, no Americans tried to make excuse for him, they absolutely tore him apart for it as they should've. With Whyte however, it is like people kinda just want it to go away and act like it never happened. Same with Tyson Fury, same with BJS and his Nasal Spray :dunno:
Once again showing you how Standards and Expectations are much higher in America for Boxers
how can you say you're a 15 yr medical pro..and yet dont know what half life means?
it means it's effects half in that time.
So if i took dbol, after 6 hours it's effects will be half of what they were in the beginning. After another 6 hours the same and so forth..but it will remain in my system for around 30 days.
there's nothing to discuss here on that though, Ukad themselves outright have said it was due to an 'isolated contamination event' without going into specifics.
then there was that leaked video with audio so you can hear what whyte was quietly saying to EH before the fight. literally along the lines of
'are they setting me up?'
'i havent slept'
You are wrong about Half life.(And I am not lying about my certs) Half life is normally a term used in nuclear sciences as how long it takes a radioactive isotope to decay halfway(yes half life also means if a substance has a 6 hour half life then it will clear completely out of your system within the same day(yes oftentimes half life is used to describe blood plasma half life rather than detection time,but in the case of Dbol it is detectable only less than a day due to it being like regular testosterone once no longer in blood plasma),its because your body flushes substances at a steady rate theres certain substances that degrade into other metabolites & are then still detectable afterwards) You obviously haven't researched much about what you're saying (thats ok). If I take a drug & its half life is 24 hrs that means after 24 hrs it would be half amount remaining in my system (again yes it sometimes differs slightly from detectable time)
I just said I know he was fcked around 1st time(aka not his fault)(why do you act as if I don't know about the specifics I do)
If something has a half life of 6 hours that means it leaves ones system in no more than 12 hrs.(half life means half a substances lifespan before excretion,yes theres drugs that degrade into other substances & remain detectable but neither of those things apply here)You should educate yourself about the basics of drugs, just so you're aware I am a 15 yr medical professional with multiple national registry certs in various fields & I have personally conned drug tests before with fake urine & such & have had to administration drug tests to many people over the yrs. I have also taken classes on "medical aspects of drugs & alcohol","Sports science" etc.
Google microdose Dianabol & see
how can you say you're a 15 yr medical pro..and yet dont know what half life means?
it means it's effects half in that time.
So if i took dbol, after 6 hours it's effects will be half of what they were in the beginning. After another 6 hours the same and so forth..but it will remain in my system for around 30 days.
there's nothing to discuss here on that though, Ukad themselves outright have said it was due to an 'isolated contamination event' without going into specifics.
then there was that leaked video with audio so you can hear what whyte was quietly saying to EH before the fight. literally along the lines of
'are they setting me up?'
'i havent slept'
Post them up your arse you useless cunt.
Heres the article that is 1 of countless stating how nationalistic & stupid you are
Olympians may be taking cues from Silicon Valley's favorite way to do drugs
Doping is fairly widespread among elite athletes.
The World Anti-Doping Agency does extensive testing to prohibit the practice, but experts say their rules may leave room for cheating.
Athletes may also be microdosing steroids as a means of flying under the testing radar.
Microdoses could provide a significant boost that remains in the system just for the length of an Olympic event.
Cheating in the Olympics isn't that hard.
Estimates suggest that between a third and nearly half of elite athletes use steroids or other drugs to boost their performance, according to a January study commissioned by the World Anti-Doping Agency, or WADA.
"It’s like taking candy from a baby. That's how easy it is for smart chemists and advisers to circumvent WADA testing," Victor Conte, the controversial supplement maker who served jail time for his role in a 2003 doping scandal, told The Guardian.
The problem may be getting worse, thanks to a new doping strategy. Microdosing may allow athletes to give themselves a perfectly timed boost that cannot be detected with current testing. The method capitalizes on the same doping schemes that athletes have been using for years, but involves a very small dose of a steroid — which stays in the system just long enough to give an extra advantage during an event. By the time an athlete reaches the finish line, the drugs are no longer present.
"This is figuring out how to cheat without getting caught. It's really just doping by another name,” Ruth I. Wood, the chair of integrative anatomical sciences at the University of Southern California Keck School of Medicine, told Business Insider.
How microdosing steroids might work
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Most performance-enhancing steroids are lab-produced variations on the male sex hormone testosterone. Testosterone-derived steroids are relatively inexpensive to buy, and because the body produces its own version naturally, they are generally harder to identify in a drug test.
In Pyeongchang, endurance athletes will be tested rigorously for steroids as well as a drug called EPO, which is designed to boost endurance and may also be used in microdoses, according to AFP. But testosterone microdoses may escape regulators' radar because they only stay in the system for minutes or hours.
The current approach to testing for steroids involves taking both blood and urine samples to test for the presence of anabolic agents. Such tests can occur at any time and any location during the Olympics, including just after a competition, according to the US Anti-Doping Agency.
In its tests, WADA compares a ratio of two types of testosterone to determine if athletes have been doping. One type is regular testosterone, and the other is a precursor form called epitestosterone. Since the body produces roughly equal amounts of each naturally, most people have a ratio of one-to-one. Still, there is some natural variation, which is the reason WADA allows the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio to reach up to four-to-one for Olympic athletes.
Because the most cheaply available and common steroids are based on testosterone, an athlete who injects would likely have a ratio closer to six-to-one or higher. But because WADA rules allow for a fairly generous ratio, athletes could still be using microdoses to top-up a larger, more chronic doping strategy. Some experts say athletes could even get a significant boost in muscle and strength by doping within the permitted ranges.
Microdosing isn't easy
Wood believes athletes who microdose are likely to be taking chronic, higher doses of steroids — just enough to fall within the WADA limits — then using a microdose, perhaps in the form of a shot, just before an event.
Still, the practice of microdosing may be much trickier than athletes anticipate. Sprinter and Olympic silver medalist Lauryn Williams told the Daily Mail that in 2012, she was advised to microdose on testosterone by the same doctor who treated world champion Tyson Gay. But Gay tested positive for testosterone in 2013.
When compared with traditional doping schemes, microdosing requires more frequent dosing delivered at just the right time, according to the US Anti-Doping Agency. Because testing agencies are aware of the practice, they are increasingly aiming to develop more stringent means of detecting any foul play.
"If you take a small amount before a contest, that testosterone will have its effects but then it would dissipate by the time you're asked to give a sample,” Wood said. "The goal of course is to get the benefits and not get caught.”
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Watch kafkod get schooled like the matchroom nuthugger he is
EPO and Dianabol are two completely different drugs that work in completely different ways. They are only interchangeable in your tiny little befuddled brain.
Was Dillian Whyte flagged for EPO? Yes or no?
https://www.businessinsider.com/doping-cheating-winter-olympics-microdosing-testosterone-steroids-2018-2
Does this link prove to yourself how stupid & much of a nutrider you are now? Anything else you wanna destroy/incriminate yourself with? Back to your caravan
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Just because this article is about Epo doesn't mean it doesn't apply to Rpids as countless studies proved & Ill post shortly
Post them up your arse you useless cunt.
EPO and Dianabol are two completely different drugs that work in completely different ways. They are only interchangeable in your tiny little befuddled brain.
Was Dillian Whyte flagged for EPO? Yes or no?
Hey ass the link along with infinite others all say the same obvious thing: Microdosing is the preferred method for tested athletes to cheat with roids & other peds. Dbol is the most powerful steroid & most dangerous as the links I posted show. EPO is used for the exact same reasons as Roids,& they both leave the body very quickly within hours,or does your dumbass want to refute this fact?
https://www.jpnm.org/dianabol-dbol-review/
Per link:Masking and Detection
A direct urine test for EPO was introduced in 2000, at the Sydney Olympics. Since then many athletes have reverted to the older method of blood-doping via transfusion, which remains undetectable. Others have tried “microdosing” with EPO, injecting smaller doses of the drug that clear the body in a few hours, making detection unlikely while still conferring some performance benefits. (Because the half-life of recombinant EPO is only a few hours, the “window” for a positive test is short.)(The same thing applies to Dbol the strongest quickest flushing roid you fckin dunce)
New types of EPO tests are being developed that are more sensitive; one promising new method looks for changes in RNA that persist long after the drugs themselves are gone from the athlete’s body. ****logous blood transfusions (that is, from another person) are detectable via DNA screening, but there is still no reliable test for autologous blood transfusion. Researchers are looking into methods that might discern changes in cell structure that result from freezing the blood.
Just because this article is about Epo doesn't mean it doesn't apply to Roids as countless studies proved & Ill post shortly
Dianabol is the most potent,most widely used steroid which is what the articles reference you pathetic shill. Dianabol=EPO,both are used interchangeably & EPO is detected for equal amount of time approx. You should quit while your only behind instead of with a boot stuck in ya rump
EPO and Dianabol are two completely different drugs that work in completely different ways. They are only interchangeable in your tiny little befuddled brain.
Was Dillian Whyte flagged for EPO? Yes or no?
1) dianabol has a half-life of 6 hours. That doesn't mean it leaves your system in 6 hours. It can be detected for 30 days. Knowing that, he would most certainly have failed vada tests too...but he didn't.
The end result is that he was cleared by ukad...and ukad have stated the result was possibly due to contamination.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELH0foOXsAAxf1I?format=jpg&name=large
So what you guys have then done is changed the story to 'ukad is dodgy'..eg EH could have paid them off...right?
but if that's true, then it's just as feasible that al haymon could reach them too....and that is far more plausible given the way tom hauser was the same guy who al haymon put on the payroll and who went out of his depth to praise al haymon in the same breath as talking about Whyte.
All in the wider context of whyte being made mandatory for wilder..and all the antics that have gone on since then.
Think about this man, us guys, we literally expected something dodgy to happent o whyte because we know it happened to povetkin too.
wilder is a protected fighter.
2) go read the backstory to his first ped fail
https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/news/item/boxer-dillian-whyte-banned-for-two-year?tmpl=component&print=1
So he failed for this SUBSTANCE in October 2012
it was only added to the banned list in August 2012.
UK Anti-Doping Director of Communications and Education Nicola Newman said: “In August 2012, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency ruled that products containing methylhexaneamine needed to be removed from the UK market. The fact that Mr Whyte purchased a product containing this ingredient after that date should remind all athletes that they need to be vigilant when considering supplementing their diet.
do you understand this ****? he wasn't 'cheating'
this product should not have even been on the market at the time. The jack3D supplement he was taking, should not have contained the substance at that time.
if he had googled 'jack3d' at the time, it would show it doesnt contain this substance. However the version he purchased off the shelf was older (and that's normal given they have long BB dates).
I just said I know he was fcked around 1st time(aka not his fault)(why do you act as if I don't know about the specifics I do)
If something has a half life of 6 hours that means it leaves ones system in no more than 12 hrs.(half life means half a substances lifespan before excretion,yes theres drugs that degrade into other substances & remain detectable but neither of those things apply here)You should educate yourself about the basics of drugs, just so you're aware I am a 15 yr medical professional with multiple national registry certs in various fields & I have personally conned drug tests before with fake urine & such & have had to administration drug tests to many people over the yrs. I have also taken classes on "medical aspects of drugs & alcohol","Sports science" etc.
Google microdose Dianabol & see
1) dianabol has a half-life of 6 hours. That doesn't mean it leaves your system in 6 hours. It can be detected for 30 days. Knowing that, he would most certainly have failed vada tests too...but he didn't.
The end result is that he was cleared by ukad.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELH0foOXsAAxf1I?format=jpg&name=large
"isolated contamination event"
So what you guys have then done is changed the story to 'ukad is dodgy'..eg EH could have paid them off...right?
but if that's true, then it's just as feasible that al haymon could reach them too....and that is far more plausible given the way tom hauser was the same guy who al haymon put on the payroll and who went out of his depth to praise al haymon in the same breath as talking about Whyte.
All in the wider context of whyte being made mandatory for wilder..and all the antics that have gone on since then.
Think about this man, us guys, we literally expected something dodgy to happent o whyte because we know it happened to povetkin too.
wilder is a protected fighter.
so what was this "isolated contamination event"? they wont tell us
EH has suggested he KNOWS whos behind it.
2) go read the backstory to his first ped fail
https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/news/item/boxer-dillian-whyte-banned-for-two-year?tmpl=component&print=1
So he failed for this SUBSTANCE in October 2012
it was only added to the banned list in August 2012.
UK Anti-Doping Director of Communications and Education Nicola Newman said: “In August 2012, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency ruled that products containing methylhexaneamine needed to be removed from the UK market. The fact that Mr Whyte purchased a product containing this ingredient after that date should remind all athletes that they need to be vigilant when considering supplementing their diet.
do you understand this ****? he wasn't 'cheating'
this product should not have even been on the market at the time. The jack3D supplement he was taking, should not have contained the substance at that time.
if he had googled 'jack3d' at the time, it would show it doesnt contain this substance. However the version he purchased off the shelf was older (and that's normal given they have long BB dates).
you literally have nothing on him.
He's a Brit. That's all some of these fools need.
https://www.jpnm.org/dianabol-dbol-review/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-scientific-american-guide-to-cheating-in-the-olympics/
So STFU you matchroom polejocky. Dianabol is THE MOST POTENT STEROID KNOWN TO MAN AS WELL AS THE MOST RISKY. So crawl back into your caravan where you reside with 100 other pikes.
One of those links you provided doesn't say anything at all about Dbol.
The other one gives this as the minimum effective dose:
"For men: 15mg/day divided into two or three doses for 8-12 weeks."
You said this:
"the preferred method of Dbol ingestion is microdosing right before the fight like shyte did"
So your own link says you are talking garbage. Are you going to accept the evidence you yourself provided, or be a lying weasel, as per usual?
I talk sht where its due & give Americans plenty of sht too, but Shyte is a collosal tosser & 2x popped.
1x roid cheat with most powerful roid known to man Dbol & the fact he was fcked around 1st time is why he SHOULDN'T be excused,you got it backwards.
If someone robs me of 2 yrs I would make sure to not cheat especially since he called many others roid cheats saying AJ"T.U.E.s "then implied he was planning on evening playing field & suddenly 1st fight with more testing he happened to have Dbol in his system right when he was tested(if accidental it would be a mighty coincidence for it to accidentally be ingested within hours of a test after vada had already tested him & he thought he was in the clear.
Dbol leaves ones system within hours so now it becomes somehow either he was accidentally dosing multiple times or the worlds greatest coincidence(if you believe his Shyte story,of course)
1) dianabol has a half-life of 6 hours. That doesn't mean it leaves your system in 6 hours. It can be detected for 30 days. Knowing that, he would most certainly have failed vada tests too...but he didn't.
The end result is that he was cleared by ukad.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELH0foOXsAAxf1I?format=jpg&name=large
"isolated contamination event"
So what you guys have then done is changed the story to 'ukad is dodgy'..eg EH could have paid them off...right?
but if that's true, then it's just as feasible that al haymon could reach them too....and that is far more plausible given the way tom hauser was the same guy who al haymon put on the payroll and who went out of his depth to praise al haymon in the same breath as talking about Whyte.
All in the wider context of whyte being made mandatory for wilder..and all the antics that have gone on since then.
Think about this man, us guys, we literally expected something dodgy to happent o whyte because we know it happened to povetkin too.
wilder is a protected fighter.
so what was this "isolated contamination event"? they wont tell us
EH has suggested he KNOWS whos behind it.
2) go read the backstory to his first ped fail
https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/news/item/boxer-dillian-whyte-banned-for-two-year?tmpl=component&print=1
So he failed for this SUBSTANCE in October 2012
it was only added to the banned list in August 2012.
UK Anti-Doping Director of Communications and Education Nicola Newman said: “In August 2012, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency ruled that products containing methylhexaneamine needed to be removed from the UK market. The fact that Mr Whyte purchased a product containing this ingredient after that date should remind all athletes that they need to be vigilant when considering supplementing their diet.
do you understand this ****? he wasn't 'cheating'
this product should not have even been on the market at the time. The jack3D supplement he was taking, should not have contained the substance at that time.
if he had googled 'jack3d' at the time, it would show it doesnt contain this substance. However the version he purchased off the shelf was older (and that's normal given they have long BB dates).
you literally have nothing on him.
The article you linked to was about EPO. :lol1:
You do realise that EPO and Dianabol are 2 completely different drugs, yeah?
Dianabol is the most potent,most widely used steroid which is what the articles reference you pathetic shill. Dianabol=EPO,both are used interchangeably & EPO is detected for equal amount of time approx. You should quit while your only behind instead of with a boot stuck in ya rump
From scientific american link:
You don't know anything about the sht you speak. Needlejuice is dirtier than your sunday draws.
The article you linked to was about EPO. :lol1:
You do realise that EPO and Dianabol are 2 completely different drugs, yeah?
Bias is Bias.... it only seems worse when you're on the other side of the argument or fence. There are extremist Brit posters, extremist PBC defenders, extreme mexican, pinoy fans etc.
All are terrible because no matter what they will defend their side of the argument no matter how flawed it is, that's all it is at the end of the day. Anyone saying one side is worse is just revealing their own bias.
nobody is anywhere near as biased for the PBC / american HW wilder as they are for dillian whyte. whyte's literally popped twice for PEDs now. they'd crucify wilder for that.
big baby miller, in a lot of ways, is a parallel for the white situation. miller didn't get A SINGLE F#CKING OZ of support from US fans. we saw a guy pop for drugs and we didn't wait for the B sample, we didn't wait for any excuses, we crucified him as a drug cheat. nobody wants to see him fight. the commissions over here operate independently, but they are "unified" in their sharing of info and usually honor drug test results and banishments. notice how baby miller hasn't fought since 2018, and white got miraculously cleared literally on the eve of a scheduled fight?
if you think this all sounds fishy you're just an average bloke with a working brain. doesn't mean your partisan in the least. looking at the surriouding circumstances it's plain as day that white is a dirty fighter. 2 x popped for drugs. literally brought in his own gloves on the night of the rivas fight. didn't allow the opponent to inspect them, weight them, protest, etc. just bulled his way, along with the commission, into the ring.