Are they that afraid of the fight with Wilder???
that they can't have any decent discussions about the fight??
Was listening to the boxing voice where they were discussing that AJ tweeted that he wants to unify in 2020 and again they end up calling in about contracts, on boxing scene it's the exact same thing,Why do the Brits love to bring up the contracts, when they should be celebrating Joshua says he wants to unify,
Somehow they start again talking contracts like they hope the fight with Wilder doesn't happen, putting up roadblocks
Wilder said he will ONLY fight when he gets 50% and every time we hear americans give their opinion, they always say 'but aj wont fight wilder'.
As for 'the fight', what's there to discuss? we know what wilder has and what aj has.
Are they that afraid of the fight with Wilder???
that they can't have any decent discussions about the fight??
Was listening to the boxing voice where they were discussing that AJ tweeted that he wants to unify in 2020 and again they end up calling in about contracts, on boxing scene it's the exact same thing,Why do the Brits love to bring up the contracts, when they should be celebrating Joshua says he wants to unify,
Somehow they start again talking contracts like they hope the fight with Wilder doesn't happen, putting up roadblocks
- - Gringo no understand A side vs B side contracts?
I’m not sure what your getting at , but I think the closest we got to a fight was when wilder turned down two offers from dazn, one for $100 mil and another for $120 mil?
Given who Joshua has fought so far I struggle to see him not wanting the fight.
I’m not so convinced yet with wilder who hasn’t fought anyone dangerous (Ortiz being old and fury - the non-puncher his only decent opponents).
Wilder is within his rights to demand a huge fee and reject big offers if he doesn’t think they are acceptable. Similarly he protested he didn’t know what AJ was being paid previously, I don’t think that really matters but if it matters to wilder then again he’s within his rights if he chooses to do so to refuse any offer.
yo yo yo yo back up i don't care
neither of you guy or me read contracts blah blah, i made this thread cause of this ****, stop yourself before you get sucked in keep making threads on how it's exactly and you right because bla bla bla, i don't care , talk about the fight else i don't care
you say you don't care yet you just got caught in a number of lies. lies that you made up to make wilder seem like he wanted the fight and that it was joshua's fault it didnt happen. you clearly have an agenda if you have to make up things. yes you like wilder better than joshua. no one is ttying to take that away from you or say you are wrong but why are you making up things that you know nothing about? then when called out on your lies you run and say I DONT CARE! sorry can't have it both ways. if you aren't going to pay attention then don't pay attention. you can't not pay attention then jump in and say sh-it that isn't true. seems like yo only want to play hte contract game when you think it favors wilder but when reality hits home and its obvious wilder turned down the fight you go back to I DONT CARE I JUST WANT TO SEE THE Fight. then ask wilder why he b-itched out and turned down 100 million. you know he ccan't make that much.
what you mean Joshua made 65-80 and Ruiz got 12 or something, you almost already at a hundred for that fight, the fight with Wilder is a lot bigger, gon make more
revenue and purses are two different things. pac and floyd generated revenue. they didn't have a network paying out of pocket for the fight. when you have the ability to generate your own revenue you arent going to get screwed with a silly offer. when you dont have an ability to generate revenue you should take what the network is willing to give you since its more than you can generate on your own. wilder can't generate 20 million let alone 40 so it was a dumb thing to do. maybe in fantasy world he thought he could make that much but alas no he can't.
so you thought it would be appropriate to make up things? then when called out you think its ok to say "i dont care about contracts!" then dont make up things? pretty simple. just say i dont know the details. i dont care about the details. some people know the details and the details are the things that matter when making fights. just saying i want to fight someone means very little. seeing a guy turn down 100 million after saying he wants the fight is pretty telling. seeing a guy who wanted 50 million turn down 100 is pretty telling. not knowing that joshua turned down 50 million and parlayed that into a dazn contract for hundreds of millions off dollars is pretty telling. now knowing that wilder is making far less now is pretty telling.
yo yo yo yo back up i don't care
neither of you guy or me read contracts blah blah, i made this thread cause of this ****, stop yourself before you get sucked in keep making threads on how it's exactly and you right because bla bla bla, i don't care , talk about the fight else i don't care
Team wilder turning down contracts and returning no contracts. We want this fight and wilder and his dumb ass demands are why this fight hasn't happened.
If he wasn't such an egoistical wanker we would of had this fight. Wilder is the reason we have not had this fight.
]I ain't tryna get in the usual nsb joshua wilder contract quicksand discussion,
who the f..k cares with these minor contract disputes you guys have on here anyway, it's annoying because we don't discuss the fight and the fact for example Joshua tweeted he wants to fight in 2020, why not talk about that,
it always has to resort to
he did this, and he offered this and he refutes that, it weak and boring not interesting, it f... up entire threads and actual discussion about the fight
so you thought it would be appropriate to make up things? then when called out you think its ok to say "i dont care about contracts!" then dont make up things? pretty simple. just say i dont know the details. i dont care about the details. some people know the details and the details are the things that matter when making fights. just saying i want to fight someone means very little. seeing a guy turn down 100 million after saying he wants the fight is pretty telling. seeing a guy who wanted 50 million turn down 100 is pretty telling. not knowing that joshua turned down 50 million and parlayed that into a dazn contract for hundreds of millions off dollars is pretty telling. not knowing that wilder is making far less now is pretty telling.
that was a 500 million dollar fight. why would pac accept 40 million? you are trying to equate the two? how? why? this is a completely different dynamic. there isn't 500 million dollars here. there isnt 100 million dollars here. its an overpay. a purposefully done overpay to get more eyeballs on dazn. its a revenue loser in the short term since neither guy can generate 40, 50, 100 million like pac and floyd could have done. pac knew that floyd could only generate that much with him and pac was selling just as many ppvs as floyd at that point. why would he get screwed? wilder was not being screwed with that offer. he can't generate 20 million a fight. he was being overpaid. literally the exact opposite and you use that as an example?
what you mean Joshua made 65-80 and Ruiz got 12 or something, you almost already at a hundred for that fight, the fight with Wilder is a lot bigger, gon make more
Skipper came out and said apparently he regretted that he didn't disclose the fact what AJ would get, which is something Wilder wanted to know, and why shouldn't he, Mayweather offered PAC 40 he refused and ended up making 120
that was a 500 million dollar fight. why would pac accept 40 million? you are trying to equate the two? how? why? this is a completely different dynamic. there isn't 500 million dollars here. there isnt 100 million dollars here. its an overpay. a purposefully done overpay to get more eyeballs on dazn. its a revenue loser in the short term since neither guy can generate 40, 50, 100 million like pac and floyd could have done. pac knew that floyd could only generate that much with him and pac was selling just as many ppvs as floyd at that point. why would he get screwed? wilder was not being screwed with that offer. he can't generate 20 million a fight. he was being overpaid. literally the exact opposite and you use that as an example?
I ain't tryna get in the usual nsb joshua wilder contract quicksand discussion,
who the f..k cares with these minor contract disputes you guys have on here anyway, it's annoying because we don't discuss the fight and the fact for example Joshua tweeted he wants to fight in 2020, why not talk about that,
it always has to resort to
he did this, and he offered this and he refutes that, it weak and boring not interesting, it f... up entire threads and actual discussion about the fight
You say this like you are neutral, do you know American fans still talking about 50m offer even today!!!
You don’t want to hear UK fans talk, but they are not going to sit silent and listen to people spread propaganda about their country or their boxer.
So you moaning about them is funny, because you can’t go anywhere without hearing 50m..
Skipper never came out and said he regret not discussing what AJ was making... You making that up. He said he regret NOT building a relationship first with Team Wilder, he didn’t know they were a difficult team to deal with, he thought he could throw a figure at them and they would negotiate or come back with a different figure, the offer was turned down without any negotiating from Wilder’s managers/advisers. Hence why he regret not trying to build a relationship with them first.
Why is Wilder concern about what Joshua is making? Joshua doesn’t have a contract with DAZN.
You go to DAZN and get your own deal, Canelo doesn’t have to bother himself with what GGG is getting from DAZN, nor is GGG bothered by it.
It’s just another roadblock in the line of Wilder claiming he wants the fight and then doing the opposite.....
On your thread, signing a contract that you claimed you were ok with, is a way to prove you want a fight.
A contract binds you to a fight.
I ain't tryna get in the usual nsb joshua wilder contract quicksand discussion,
who the f..k cares with these minor contract disputes you guys have on here anyway, it's annoying because we don't discuss the fight and the fact for example Joshua tweeted he wants to fight in 2020, why not talk about that,
it always has to resort to
he did this, and he offered this and he refutes that, it weak and boring not interesting, it f... up entire threads and actual discussion about the fight
The fight hasn’t happened and they have to blame Wilder because their hero can’t be at fault.
They also don’t want to discuss the fight because the rational discussion is about how their hero would win unless he got hit. They don’t want to acknowledge that there’s any way their hero could lose.
So they just say Wilder is scared and doesn’t want the fight and it all circles back to contracts and who’s the bigger draw.
you hit nail on the head
Skipper came out and said apparently he regretted that he didn't disclose the fact what AJ would get, which is something Wilder wanted to know, and why shouldn't he.
Skipper never came out and said he regret not discussing what AJ was making... You making that up. He said he regret NOT building a relationship first with Team Wilder, he didn’t know they were a difficult team to deal with, he thought he could throw a figure at them and they would negotiate or come back with a different figure, the offer was turned down without any negotiating from Wilder’s managers/advisers. Hence why he regret not trying to build a relationship with them first.
Why is Wilder concern about what Joshua is making? Joshua doesn’t have a contract with DAZN.
You go to DAZN and get your own deal, Canelo doesn’t have to bother himself with what GGG is getting from DAZN, nor is GGG bothered by it.
It’s just another roadblock in the line of Wilder claiming he wants the fight and then doing the opposite.....
On your thread, signing a contract that you claimed you were ok with, is a way to prove you want a fight.
A contract binds you to a fight.
Stephen Espinoza of Showtime got sick of Wilder and his team's negotiating tactics.
"Deal didn't make sense for us," stated the SHO executive, who is a close ally. That says a lot about what kind of team Wilder has.
these uk clowns are a bunch of sad individuals thats why
their boy avenged a loss to a 6 ft tortoise and now all of the sudden they are feeling froggy again....
literally everyone in the boxing world blamed AJs side for stalling the fight....and yet these clowns run around message boards talking about wilder ducking this and that...spreading lies...false info..its sad and desperate....
probably because the whole reason the fight didn't happen is because wilder deemed the offer not good enough. then when you look at the offer in comparison to wilders drawing power and current salary you say "this doesnt add up"
Skipper came out and said apparently he regretted that he didn't disclose the fact what AJ would get, which is something Wilder wanted to know, and why shouldn't he, Mayweather offered PAC 40 he refused and ended up making 120
probably because the whole reason the fight didn't happen is because wilder deemed the offer not good enough. then when you look at the offer in comparison to wilders drawing power and current salary you say "this doesnt add up"