114-113 Dervy but I have no problem with the cards
Appreciate a statement like this. It was a close fight period. With scoring even rounds frowned upon we have to expect things like this. Someone may see GGG win a round by a punch or two, but that’s still worth a point. The same round could be chosen for D by a punch or two by another person. So in reality they both saw a very even round but the scores will tend to look more like worlds apart. At the same time 10-8 rounds are discouraged unless there’s a knockdown. So often guys win a feel out round one by maybe a jab yet the other guy can only earn the same single point down the road even if they batter the other guy. Every round can be razor thin yet two judges can have it shutouts either way. Rarely do judges who have the same score end up scoring the rounds the same.
He definitely didnt look as good as i was hoping and the first thing i thought was age, but he also got the fight taken to him by someone on their best night fighting their ass off like never before.
If he was sick that week it would be a cause for his subpar showing though so who knows.
Of course... I guess he will hang on for another year or so -- the DAZN money is too big...
Ha!! all these triple cheat fans tryg to use the “he was ill “ excuse. accept it he is old a done. once Canelo destroys him u will say he was old lol. remember all yr excuses means in yr mind he is not old. so u cant use that when canelo destroys him and sends that kazak back to korea
... GGG looked very, very bad mostly in between rounds (while sitting on his stool)...
... I myself thought that GGG must rather retire after this (some said that he was ill/sick before the fight)... Now I maintain that GGG should quit boxing -- but it's too much money there for him in order to make him go on... :)
He definitely didnt look as good as i was hoping and the first thing i thought was age, but he also got the fight taken to him by someone on their best night fighting their ass off like never before.
If he was sick that week it would be a cause for his subpar showing though so who knows.
I've rewatched bits of it too, and Golovkin seems to have been doing better than I remembered, but I can't be sure if that's affirmation bias kicking in or whether I was more swayed by the commentary on the night or whatever.
Either way, a real good fight that deserves a re-run.
Yeah he did. When i was watching it the first time i was just kinda watching it as a background show because of the party i was with. Everyone talking and drinking n ****, i wasnt able to pay full attention. Dere definitely brought more energy to the fight so i see why i thought he won. But when i focused and actually watched the fight alone you can see ggg doing the more damaging work.
Agree though, great fight would watch it again
What numbers?
... Well... in terms of "power punches", CompuBox says that Derev outlanded GGG by far...
I wasn't keeping a scorecard but it felt like it was probably a 114-113 fight either way, perhaps a split decision.
I'd have to watch it again to pick a winner.
But Sergey Derevyanchenko made a very strong accounting for himself, whereas GGG appears to be declining.
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Watched it last night with a party n thought dere won a close fight. Re-watched it today by myself, rewinding and rewatching key parts and thought ggg won 115-112. I can see 114-113
... GGG looked very, very bad mostly in between rounds (while sitting on his stool)...
... I myself thought that GGG must rather retire after this (some said that he was ill/sick before the fight)... Now I maintain that GGG should quit boxing -- but it's too much money there for him in order to make him go on... :)
Watched it last night with a party n thought dere won a close fight. Rewatched it today by myself, rewinding and rewatching key parts and thought ggg won 115-112. I can see 114-113
I've rewatched bits of it too, and Golovkin seems to have been doing better than I remembered, but I can't be sure if that's affirmation bias kicking in or whether I was more swayed by the commentary on the night or whatever.
Either way, a real good fight that deserves a re-run.
Didn't score it but wasn't mad with either guy getting the nod... guess gun to head I'd say the KD might seperate 'em for the GGG win but I'd have to go back and score it properly.
Watched it last night with a party n thought dere won a close fight. Rewatched it today by myself, rewinding and rewatching key parts and thought ggg won 115-112. I can see 114-113
I did not see a GGG dominant jab tonight. Serg was way more effective with his jab. For a short guy Serg has a long reach. He used it to get inside and using a hard jab just to pop GGG in the face. GGG's jab was weak, missing, and not at all that accurate. He found no rhythm with his jab or any other punch throughout the entire fight.
GGG got pushed back and battered to the head and visibly hurt to the body multiple times. At times it looked as if GGG was ready to throw in the towel. He looked defeated, dead tired, and confused and all this before the 8th rd. He also showed he is no longer willing to eat a punch or 2 to land his punch. He is obviously feeling the punches more and he is no longer willing to pay the price in order to impose his will anymore.
I meant it being the dominant punch in his arsenal, not it being stronger or more successful than Sergiy's. I knew that phrasing was going to cause confusion but I didn't bother to edit.
I had this legitimately 10-2 for Sergiy; Rd 1 a 10-8 for Golovkin with the knockdown, and 7. Other than that Derev all night exhibiting the much better workrate, (effective) aggression, overall variety (with some superb body work peppered throughout) and an impressive connect rate that Golovkin's moderate success with clean power shots just couldn't compensate for. This with the concession several of those were swing round territory.
Suffice to say it wasn't what I expected...I predicted early success for Derev yielding something close to an even score through the first half, with Golovkin likely finding the KO at some point from 7 forward. In many ways this was standard issue Golovkin--with the dominant jab, intermittent success with hooks/uppercuts, and minimal head movement that leads to eating multiple shots from virtually any half decent opponent before they eventually succumb--just a conspicuously weaker, less active version of it. My prevailing thought as it unfolded was who in the division's top vicinity wouldn't have gotten the better of him tonight? One could see Jermall, Jacobs or even Culcay, who gave Derev a hellacious scrap in his prior fight having similar success against tonight's Golovkin (to be clear any of them has a fair shot at Golovkin period, but particularly tonight's version). I've leaned to the suspicion Andrade/BJS box hypothetical circles around him for about 2 or so years, so that's kind of a constant. Canelo outboxes tonight's version more definitively, if not necessarily a stoppage.
Bottom line the one-sided nature of tonight felt more like Golovkin slippage rather than a Derev masterclass, which isn't to diminish Segiy's effort. But it was basically an "off" Golovkin vs a hungry, Spence-Garcia workrate fueled largely by last chance desperation and certainly right there front and center to be hit. So the question for me is whether father time finally swung the gavel, or tonight we were looking at a literal headcold/tummy ache on Golovkin's end. Sergiy absolutely deserves a rematch, which could prove very telling in that regard.
I did not see a GGG dominant jab tonight. Serg was way more effective with his jab. For a short guy Serg has a long reach. He used it to get inside and using a hard jab just to pop GGG in the face. GGG's jab was weak, missing, and not at all that accurate. He found no rhythm with his jab or any other punch throughout the entire fight.
GGG got pushed back and battered to the head and visibly hurt to the body multiple times. At times it looked as if GGG was ready to throw in the towel. He looked defeated, dead tired, and confused and all this before the 8th rd. He also showed he is no longer willing to eat a punch or 2 to land his punch. He is obviously feeling the punches more and he is no longer willing to pay the price in order to impose his will anymore.
Serg won every rd after the 2nd rd. Easy, clear cut rds to score. It was a robbery! Serg landed by far the more, effective, cleaner punches all night He hurt GGG multiple times, his defense was better, backed up GGG all night. Serg won every rd after the 2nd rd. Easy, clear cut rds to score. It was a robbery!