Seriously every time the guy is in a big fight, I hear “Porter is sloppy he’s getting knocked out.” Happened against Thurman, Garcia, and most recently Spence. He won against DSG and his losses were razor close. Both DSg and Spence say there’s more to his style than mindless aggression.
This also shows that all of these welters are on the same level. A fighthype reporter made a good point asking DSG why media puts Spence and crawford on a pedestal above the rest of the fighters. I don’t see any welterweight walking through any top 5 welter.
Spence wasn’t the one pulling away though, Porter was getting more and more comfortable outboxing Spence until the KD.
Will agree to disagree, tbh. Porter was active and agressive, as he needed to be, but in exchange after exchange, Porter would come in, throw a lot of shots that would get caught, maybe get 1 or 2 through, but pay for that by getting raked hard and clean, with the shots bouncing off of the ribs or the jaw.
Some great posts here, except for the usual Packy fan boy ones but we can ignore those.
I could never see a problem with Porter's style in fact it's good that he's a bit different because that poses a different challenge for those he fights. And that all makes for a intriguing fight.
Spence has shown that he's just a level above; Brook, Thurman, Danny, old-man Pacquiao, Porter, Ugas, and a couple others have shown to be at a certain level. Crawford hasn't dipped his toe into the pool yet, but folks are placing him due to what Arum has fed the boxing press, tbh.
Porter fights the way he fights, he's shown that he's of a certain level, but his particular style is so seemingly haphazard that folks aren't are to give it credit.
Porter's roughness kept him in it, but you pull that, and you basically see the Brook fight again; Porter hangs in there, but Spence Jr shows his level late when he pulls away.
Spence wasn’t the one pulling away though, Porter was getting more and more comfortable outboxing Spence until the KD.
Because he has a Ugly Style lacks Power & Has a history of Coming Up Short almost every time he’s fought a top 5 WW , He wins rounds & always makes the fights competitive but you’ll quickly get overlooked and under rated
in this sport when you’re 1/4 Fighting against the other Top Prime WWs ( I didn’t even think he deserved the W against Garcia )
Fans/ media usually dont value a fighter who’s looked at as 1B no matter how good they are
Seriously every time the guy is in a big fight, I hear “Porter is sloppy he’s getting knocked out.” Happened against Thurman, Garcia, and most recently Spence. He won against DSG and his losses were razor close. Both DSg and Spence say there’s more to his style than mindless aggression.
This also shows that all of these welters are on the same level. A fighthype reporter made a good point asking DSG why media puts Spence and crawford on a pedestal above the rest of the fighters. I don’t see any welterweight walking through any top 5 welter.
Spence has shown that he's just a level above; Brook, Thurman, Danny, old-man Pacquiao, Porter, Ugas, and a couple others have shown to be at a certain level. Crawford hasn't dipped his toe into the pool yet, but folks are placing him due to what Arum has fed the boxing press, tbh.
Porter fights the way he fights, he's shown that he's of a certain level, but his particular style is so seemingly haphazard that folks aren't are to give it credit.
Porter's roughness kept him in it, but you pull that, and you basically see the Brook fight again; Porter hangs in there, but Spence Jr shows his level late when he pulls away.
85% of the people posting on here and talking about boxing are not true boxing fans and have 95% have never sparred or understand how hard it is to be at the level these guys are on, thats why. you lose a fight your a bum, you have a close fight you are exposed, fighters like porter should be appreciated but get constant hate
Facts.... The fight was close and you have haters screaming robbery...now we have a million He "exposed" threads. But thats how it is on here
Porter has some big, steel balls. seriously. Look at the reaction difference between a warrior and a puta.
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I thought people learned some things from Floyd - Maidana 1, but they didn`t. They keep talking that somebody is "C level" even though he is or was a world champ and that "he will be finished inside 5 rounds" and so.
He’s an excellent fighter
He’s only lost close decisions to Thurman, Brook and Spence, all of which were also very good fighters at their peak.
I rate him, I don’t always like watching him but he’s proven he’s one of the very top guys in the division. There’s nothing wrong with a few close losses.
Seriously every time the guy is in a big fight, I hear “Porter is sloppy he’s getting knocked out.” Happened against Thurman, Garcia, and most recently Spence. He won against DSG and his losses were razor close. Both DSg and Spence say there’s more to his style than mindless aggression.
This also shows that all of these welters are on the same level. A fighthype reporter made a good point asking DSG why media puts Spence and crawford on a pedestal above the rest of the fighters. I don’t see any welterweight walking through any top 5 welter.
The only standout from the Welterweight crop is a 40 year old Pacquiao. He clearly beat Thurman
On the level below, you have Thurman, Garcia, Porter and Spence scraping close decisions against each other.
I think that goes to show that the division is definitely loaded with names, but lacking in overall talent.
swarmers are generally underrated , they get the rep of being face first , no defense ,club fighters but it's really not the case
they are very effective...ex jlc and maidana arguably beating floyd
It's kind of annoying. He really put on a great fight and instead of raising Porterup most are dragging Spence down (and yes i agree he was overhyped and not the boogeyman but he was not "exposed"). The shot that dropped Porter would have ended most fights. Porters a warrior. Look at the replay, he goes snapped head out cold for a moment then comes back and then pushes the rest of the round. That really impressed me how he handled that shot.
85% of the people posting on here and talking about boxing are not true boxing fans and have 95% have never sparred or understand how hard it is to be at the level these guys are on, thats why. you lose a fight your a bum, you have a close fight you are exposed, fighters like porter should be appreciated but get constant hate
Seriously every time the guy is in a big fight, I hear “Porter is sloppy he’s getting knocked out.” Happened against Thurman, Garcia, and most recently Spence. He won against DSG and his losses were razor close. Both DSg and Spence say there’s more to his style than mindless aggression.
This also shows that all of these welters are on the same level. A fighthype reporter made a good point asking DSG why media puts Spence and crawford on a pedestal above the rest of the fighters. I don’t see any welterweight walking through any top 5 welter.
I think Spence showed he was better than porter tonight. I think too often people think “he is better” or “there is a gap between “ implies something more than it does.
Porter proved he was tough as he always has. I think the difference between Spence and Porter is clear but Posting that shouldn’t be demeaning to Porter.
Porter is tough for anyone to deal with.
Because people are fan girls of guys with undefeated status. ( Spence, Crawford). But i am tired explaining that Porter is a true warrior who fights everybody and always comes to fight. And now are casuals surprised how Spence couldn`t stop him. Who the hell ever had nice time with Shawn Porter?
People should actually start watching boxing, not just hype some fighters.
Deadass when i saw him walking through the **** Thurman was hitting him with, i never doubted his ability to go 12 rds with anyone at 147. I always said Shawn Porter is a difficult fight for anybody at that weight
Because people are fan girls of guys with undefeated status. ( Spence, Crawford). But i am tired explaining that Porter is a true warrior who fights everybody and always comes to fight. And now are casuals surprised how Spence couldn`t stop him. Who the hell ever had nice time with Shawn Porter?
People should actually start watching boxing, not just hype some fighters.
Seriously every time the guy is in a big fight, I hear “Porter is sloppy he’s getting knocked out.” Happened against Thurman, Garcia, and most recently Spence. He won against DSG and his losses were razor close. Both DSg and Spence say there’s more to his style than mindless aggression.
This also shows that all of these welters are on the same level. A fighthype reporter made a good point asking DSG why media puts Spence and crawford on a pedestal above the rest of the fighters. I don’t see any welterweight walking through any top 5 welter.
Because most people who say it DKSAB and just repeat what they hear, they don't have a real analysis of any fighter or fight.
Yes, many, actually most elite fighters have flaws. It's what makes fighters like Fury so special because they have none. There is always something you can work on, something you can improve, and experience always helps, regardless of age. Casuals see a bit of slop or smothering and they can't differentiate between quality work and poor fundamentals. We heard the same when Maidana was at 147, you could immediately tune out the fools who called him a senseless face first brawler because it's ignorant and a waste of time to discuss boxing with someone who's knowledge and experience is so shallow.
It's kind of the same attitude has towards Wilder, where because it doesn't fit people's image of what slick and precise boxing is supposed to look like they disparage it as being bad, regardless of how effective it actually is. I actually think Porter's wild style works in his favour because it makes dealing with him a real struggle. He's only ever lost to top fighters running red hot and all of them have had to sweat waiting for the scorecards to be read out.